“Allow Laughter When You Get To Fear Things”

“Transition Is the Best Way to Travel”

Session 305 (Private/Webcam-Phone)

Friday, November 14, 2008

Participants: Joanne (Tyl) Nardine (Daisy) and Peter.

(Arrival time 11 seconds.)

ROSE: You have a sense the weary girl has rested-in-Rose today, dear Daisy.[1] So do you have a question for us to realize the resting in the appointment today, as well? So you do know we are always resting in your desires, also. Let’s talk about those today if you’d like, dear Daisy.

But do continue to ask your questions as you’d like. We’re just being a bit testy today, that’s all, dear one. Do continue.

NARDINE: (Humorously) I applaud your testy! (Laughing with Jo) Good morning, and thank you for all your beautiful guidance and support in our last session, and every moment since. I’m actually reading from something because I wanted to get clarity in what we chatted about. I want to acknowledge that I feal I have allowed my mind to soften in many ways, since our last session, and it has added very much unto my joyful chreating.

Facing my fears and following my intent is my blissful way of spirit, and I sense there may be deeper layers to my intent name and intentionality that I am discovering. So that’s very exciting. I used to be a great questioner, and I once felt I couldn’t find the answers, if I don’t ask the questions. I was always led to the right book, the right teacher, the right lesson for my journey. So I can look back and see my entire life as blessed, in fact, I see I have ever been divinely guided and led. This tealls me I have listened to my inner guidance, my essence self, more than I have realized up until this now.

My recent layer of fear and discovery has been around self-confidence, of assurance and expressing myself. I’m sensing if I can truly appreciate how I have honored my heart whispers, not only for myself, but for All-That-Is, I will truly recognize the blessed difference I make to All-That-Is, and release my final barrier to knowing my greatness – not more than other, but equal to other. And I’m wondering what comments you have to offer me on this perception.

ROSE: Try to imagine how very delighted we are to get the wonderful question that you ask, dear Daisy. Because you need to only trust that we have only the best things in store for you, indeed. So don’t wrong on yourself for not only not asking every question that you could have asked, but also realize how very wonderfully you’re doing, in realizing the path for yourself is, indeed, in sometimes not asking the questions you might have in the past.

So we’re saying the questions you have evolved in that statement, are wonderfully aligned with your intent. The very questions have alternate probabilities in them, don’t they? They have more to them, as you know. The weary girl needs to step aside a bit more, one moment. (Jo chuckles)

The wonderful way you have of getting into the space is delightful. You sontered Rose. You helped yourself to things that told you what to ask – the beauty of the day, the wonder that your delightful Pete brings you – in every way, you helped yourself to heaping thoughts of gentle discovery. You helped yourself to heaping fealings of things that you hold dear. You didn’t get the things you wanted in the way. You desire the wonderful questions you ask. How is that any different than any other thing you do?

It sometimes helps to only focus on the things you really desire. The thing to keep in mind that in your question is the answer, because the process you came up with to determine your question is why your difficulty has been resolved. The difficulty was in sometimes, not only allowing the fears to get involved, but also allowing the desires to be put aside for the wants that you didn’t really want. To say this another way, you helped yourself to the best allowance for yourself, in your decisions to ask the questions you did.

Now, how to say the things you do to allow your questions? You helped yourself immensely. In this, you did what? You didn’t pay any attention to the fears, did you? Only to the fears that you needed, to get you to that point. We’re talking about the fears that get in your way, until you realize they’re there for your benefit.

For example, you helped yourself to wanting the fear to move you into new areas. You did that quite well. You helped yourself to the understanding that the fears were, in every way, in your understanding of your capacity to learn. You didn’t fear that you couldn’t learn. You feared that you didn’t have the capacity to learn. Then you did what? You realized how you did fear that.

Then you realized how the fear was, in some ways, even greater than that, when you considered how very lucky you were to be involved in such a big, wonderful Rose appreciation club. You helped yourself to allowing yourself to fear only the “getting out of sync” with the others. Then you helped yourself to finding ways to counter that fear, didn’t you? So the fear of not being involved helped you move into the areas you needed to, to dismiss the fears about your not being able to learn. Then you allowed your capacity to expand in every way. That’s what you did.

Even you know how very lucky your beautiful Paul is to have you. You even know, in spite of your difficulties in expressing to yourself how very beautiful you are to them, you know how very lucky they both feal to have you in their lives. The way you can think of this is as a contractual agreement that you helped yourselves to long ago – in spontaneous time that is – long ago in sort of a sense of difficulty that you held, in some ways, in other times. You decided to allow this expression to occur in this focus together.

You helped yourself to that contract, then you helped yourself to that now. The way you can think about this, is as a contract you feared you would allow to lapse, had you feared the things you needed to express. So you did help yourself to fear in the ways that helped you, in a sense, then you let the other wonderful ones go. They helped you get to where you needed to be by saying, “Well, what’s really in store for me if I do fear the things about capacity to learn? I’ll do worse than that.” And your fear about the contract breaking helped you get beyond the other fears.

That’s why you’re asking the beautiful questions you are. You realize how very lucky you’re being to yourself also, in allowing your expressions. For even the question is a geanius one in establishing, in many ways, how very wonderful the expressions you’re taking on truly are.

So do continue to ask your delicious questions, dear Daisy.

NARDINE: Thank you. As Tumold-Vold, I recognize my reading, hearing aspects very much. I actually marvel at the magic of my focal choosing of Tumold-Vold, intermediate, religious,[2] for I feal this to be a truly wonderful choosing. I have ever responded to sound. I can hear a couple of bars of a piece of music and find myself in tears, deep tears, from a place inside me that has no end. Not only music, but many things will elicit these tears.

My sense is that I am connecting with that inner knowing of All-That-Is, truly touching the heart of God or Source. It is like fealing the pain of separation whilst knowing the bliss of unity. Is this, again, another way I’m connecting with my essence self?

ROSE: You’re always connecting, of course, to your essence self, but we do know you know this, dear Daisy. So we’ll not flutter about the day in bringing you what you’re wanting to know, about the birds also. You have a sort of sense about birds that goes very deeply. Now what to say about birds, besides you know they are Rose, also. Why not say birds have Rose in them, also essence has Rose in them, also essence has Nardine in them, and on, and on and on.

For your realization of deepening essence self is what you’re doing now. And you’re deepening your knowing about self in the way you treat your friends, also. You have a deepened appreciation for them. You have a deepened allowance for their wanting your advice, also. You’re deepening in every way, as well as deepening in spirit. We’ll not tarry, in some ways, with the differences, but there are some things in spirit that are allowing themselves to occur, also.

So when you get the way of spirit for yourself – which you’re doing now – the ontological thing to realize, is that you’re also allowing things in spirit that you don’t always know about, either. So don’t wrong on yourself, ever, for not allowing as much as you’d normally like, not necessarily need to want, there’s a big difference. We’re not saying you need to go deeper, we’re only saying that sometimes you have a sort of belief structure that says, “I need to go deeper.” You don’t. We’re saying that when you go wherever you go, you make allowances in spirit that you don’t always see, but they’re there, and you don’t need to wrong on yourself if you don’t feal you’re going deep enough. That’s all.

So wrong on yourself for nothing, ever, anymore. Because the thing to allow is yourself, there’s never any need to fear that you’re not being good enough, or deep enough, or not allowing more into your days. You do, in every way. You’re already doing the work you need to. You’re only allowing more of your essence into yourself so you can fear less every day, and allow more laughter, and sunshine, and allowance for whatever, not just the deep stuff. Okay, dear one? Do continue with your questions

NARDINE: Okay. So what I’m understanding from what you’ve just said is, I am aware and know that I am essence, essence is with me in every moment. All I need to do is know, trust, allow the knowing that my expressions in every moment, when aligned through my heart, are my essence-self expressing. I don’t need to doubt, question, or wrong on myself if I’m not going into a ‘trance’ state of being, to find my channeling expressions. My channeling expression is just my flow of self, and I can trust that expression.

ROSE: You’re exactly right, and sometimes you’ll get the sense that you’re already channeling, even in your days sipping coffee, or smoking a cigarette, or doing whatever you do every day. The ways of spirit are very wide, as well as chreative. So don’t ever wrong on yourself, even for the things you might think are truly, spectacularly wrong, they’re not. They’re only expressions that you don’t like, as well as trust. To say this another way, you’ll do well to only allow laughter when you get to fear things, allow laughter when you feal blue.

In some ways, it’s a very tealling thing to be able to laugh at anything. Indeed, even the worst things – in your terms, that is – that you might imagine, they are all beyond realization of seriousness, when you really get down to things.

Now we’ll say that not all things have the same sense about them. When you’re in trouble, perhaps, you may fear things, and sometimes have trouble getting the spirit of the ridiculousness of the situation you’re in. But in some ways, and in most ways, you can probably laugh about things without really doing any more damage to someone.

For example, there are some things that you don’t want to laugh at. In some ways, there would be cause for violation if that were to occur. You know the differences, so we’ll not tarry with that. But to say that all things need a good laugh every now and then is really pretty much true. So don’t allow only sadness to occur over events, getting the laughter back is also very important. And you’ll see that there are very many individuals who are very ready for this now. Okay, dear one?

Do continue to allow your beautiful questions today.

NARDINE: Thank you. I’ve been experiencing a lot of bodily energy surges from my crown to my heart, for quite some time. I don’t believe them to be menopausal – I slipped through that with nary a whisper – but I am wondering at the intent of such surges. Is there something I may do that will support this influx with more ease, or to simply trust and allow the flow, knowing it, too, will settle into my new normal higher vibrational expression of being?

ROSE: Your surges are very interesting to Rose, as they have more to them than we do know about, too. In some ways, you’re connecting with an energy that we don’t really know much about. The way you can trust that the energy is defensive, in some ways, is the point. The energy has to do with defensive protection in some ways, not to be feared, but to also be looked at.

For you don’t need to fear the energy, you just want to imagine how it is helping you, in your body that is. It is helping you to realize more body-spirit connection. But the interesting part to Rose, is that you have a sense that Rose is involved, but we’re only involved as part of the exchange that you’re doing, not as the energy. Do you follow?

NARDINE: Yes.

ROSE: We’re healing your body, in some ways. But the energy is not exactly Rose-ish, we will say. It’s a very strong current from another dimension. So we’ll treat this as Rose for now, as we do lovingly accept that the energy is geanius to you, so as to allow the beautiful Nardine to coexist, in some ways, with the dimensions she’s connecting to, beautifully, in fact.

So do continue to explore the energy to teall you about it’s virtues, then teall Rose also, when you’re ready to, for we’re wanting to know about the deeply significant connection you’re making, dear one.

NARDINE: Very well, wonderful. My sense, my fealing is with this emotion wave, and with my Tumold-Vold, inter, religious, I feal as though I am primed at this point in time, upon the planet, in my heart, in my world, for my contribution to All-That-Is with this wave. And my intuition also tealls me that these energetic surges are part of the download, in my perception, from All-That-Is.

I feal as though, cosmically, planetarily, universally, there is great magic unfolding, and that I have chosen, and am honoring my contract within this movement in time. So that’s how I’m interpreting this energy, as simply something that is adding to my ability to honor my contract. But I did feal as though Rose may have had more insight about that energy, but as I continue embracing, learning, healing and yousing, I’ll be sure to share with you. (Chuckling)

ROSE: Now we’ll say that the interest in your deepest states has to do with your connecting energy with the other dimension. So you’ve gone beyond All-That-Is in your dimensional sense, in some ways. Your connection with your dimensions have to do with your intrigue with the deepness of spirit. So you’re not needing to go deeper, dear one, you only need to allow the best, deepest, ontologically sontering-self in, that’s all.

The sontering will get what it needs to get, wherever it needs to come from. So you’re doing that already, don’t wrong on yourself for not doing All-That-Is, in some ways you’re always doing that, always. So don’t fear that you’re doing things not deeply enough. You’re always All-That-Is. You’re needed here on earth, dear one. Okay?

So do continue to ask your beautiful questions today.

NARDINE: Thank you, thank you. I‘ve been chatting recently, and learning more about final focus. Now I haven’t had confirmation, but my sense is that myself and Pete are also both final focuses. Can you affirm this please?

ROSE: You’re doing the work of Rose, dear one!

NARDINE: (Chuckling) I’ll share your load.

ROSE: (Humorously) Indeed, we’ll have to give you a cut of the proceeds soon. (Nardine chuckles) You’re deeply connecting with Rose, in many ways. So you’ll do well to give us a cut of the proceeds once you set up your shingle, dear one.

Now we’ll say that you’re correct. When you realize how very fortunate you are in allowing the beautiful expressions you are, you also get the sense that you’ll do well to allow more final focus into your excelling-self. You’re wanting to allow your focus information into your periphery, at times. So you can trust that the final focus information is wanting to experiment, in some ways, with your allowance for self.

We’ll explain a bit. The final focus is somewhat a dear one to many, but not all individuals who go there, want to, in a sense. The final focus information is truly remarkable in some ways. It is helping you to move into transition better, in a sense. Better because the final focus information, when incorporated, sometimes can speed transition, in some ways, when it is allowed into physical reality.

To say this another way, you’ll begin, at times to see how things wean themselves, in some ways, of the physical plane while you’re still alive. This is not a test. The weany girl is asking, she’s overly involved, perhaps, because you’re both final focuses. But to say that she is learning to transition is an understatement, right? Really, she’s getting the best self into her periphery like you are, in order to allow more, ontologically “out there” information in.

The way you can think about this is: being in transition is the best way to travel. For the way of spirit is, in every way, moving you there already. You’re just allowing more information about the focuses you have already, in spite of your allowance for physical reality, to move into your view, so to speak. So you’re allowing more physical focus information into your self awareness. Then you’re moving beyond the physical plane, at the same time.

The allowance is not a bad or good thing, it’s just the transitional state. The thing to keep in mind is when you fear, you get the worst of the world, in some ways. Then you help yourself to spirit, that moves you into new areas of spirit. Then you also attend to things physical, in new ways. This is sometimes very difficult to understand. But the wonderful thing about the position you’re in is that you’re doing the work of God, in many ways.

In your realization of spirit in self, you’re also helping the many individuals in your days to allow more in, also. So don’t fear the transitional state. It’s very different in some ways, but in other ways, it is a very comfortable, as well as familiar place to realize. In some ways, it’s more familiar than your physical reality. So do continue to allow your difficult transitional things to subside, and allow more into your days, so as to get the provision of the best self to assist. That’s all you need to do.

Now do take on your difficult days, also. You’re wanting to express that, sometimes you do have these, that we do know. To say that you’re not doing the work is incorrect, you’re doing fine. You’re only needing to allow more into your days, so as to allow more bliss. That’s all. And you’re doing the work of this already.

So do continue with your beautiful questions, dear one.

NARDINE: Thank you, thank you. I’m so often certain of focal sharing… What I’m getting strong and clear through our conversation here, Rose, is I can stop second-guessing myself, I can stop doubting my knowing, I can stop asking you (Chuckles) what I know.

But my final question. Because I’m so often certain of focal sharing’s in other spaces with those I’m touched by, yet I can doubt this at times – Elias affirmed my intuitions, too, but I still wonder – if I had you, Rose, in my heart the way Jo does, I would ask you (Chuckling) in the moment. And as it happens, I know I have you in my heart the way Jo does, so I don’t actually need to ask you anything outwardly, I can ask you it all innerly.

But I will ask you here in this moment, my intuition is that Mary, Marcos, myself and Pete share spaces. And my intuition would be many spaces. But I’m wanting to share with Mary and Marcos, the awareness of one of the spaces we share. Are you able to offer me that information?

ROSE: You’re correct, that Rose talks to you all the time, but sometimes you don’t listen, that’s all. Do sonter us when you fear also, for you have the sense that your heart knows more than your head.

NARDINE: Yes!

ROSE: To say that another way, your heart knows more than most about Rose. So do continue to rest-in-Rose and allow us to teall you things in heartland, so to speak. That is how you connect with Rose mostly, dear one. Also, your allowance for understanding of your difficult Rose talk is truly outstanding. You have the sense of Rose even when she’s not exactly making herself perfectly clear. You have the heart sense of her. So do continue to do this, you’re in some ways, doing better than the weany girl is, in expressing her Rose to you today. Okay?

So do continue to allow Rose to teall you everything you need to know. Now, we’ll also say that you’re correct in allowing the ontological respect that you need to be allowing the information in your days. You’re doing this well. You only need to allow the respective self to ollow – O-L-L-O-W – only allow (Jo chuckles) is a new word (Nardine chuckles, too)[3] today. Ollow the only needed source into your thoughts. Sometimes you get more than one source.

There are many ways to view source. There are many ways to view source that are truly overlapping, also. But to say the ways of spirit for you are vast is an understatement. You can sort things out clearer, at times, if you think of this as tuning into one thing or another. That’s how you learned about the source that told you about the foursome you have in spirit. So you’re correct, that the source told you that, then you allowed the information to come in to your awareness.

Now what did you think about the focus information? Did you sense the information was accurate?

NARDINE: The knowing that we share, yes. The location, or time-space, no, I don’t know that. I hadn’t intuited that.

ROSE: You knew, though, the information about the focuses shared was accurate though. Right?

NARDINE: Yes.

ROSE: You had that breakthrough, in spite of how you may have viewed that. In other words, you have a source that is helping you, that you can tune into again and again.

NARDINE: Yes!

ROSE: That is your essence self who is good at tuning into other focuses, you might call that. To say this another way, you have more to tune into than you know about. The tuning in is what we’re trying to teall you about. It’s very geanius of you. So do continue to teall us about why you thought that the focuses shared were important. We’re trying to get you into that space a bit so you can try this at home in ways that will help you.

NARDINE: Bless you, I do appreciate and understand where you’re guiding me and supporting me. And in this moment in time, and within the last twelve hours, I have sensed that movement. It’s like it’s just a bare whisper and I will be receiving that information. And that’s part of all this journey of these weeks, blah, blah, blah. And more pointedly, with this recent process of confidence and releasing my fear, knowing that my wisdom is valued, is real, it doesn’t need to be questioned, I can trust it.

ROSE: You’re right… (Skype phone line disconnects)

NARDINE: (Exclaiming on reconnection) Explosive energy!

JOANNE: I think so. I mean it’s going to be interesting to see what Rose says about that. Okay. Can we start again, hon? (Paul resets recording) Okay, we’re started again. Thank you. Okay, all right, here we go. Hasta la pasta! (Nardine and Joanne chuckle)

ROSE: Now, what to say about that, dear ones? You did hear each other do the bidding of Rose, just then. You have both connected the dots about the thing that just happened. The thing that happened was that you had very many things to say to each other that were canceling each other out, because they were too similar to compete. They cut down the computers, in the sense that they had to stop themselves. So, do you have a sense that was how your Rose was getting your attention?

You both had to say the things you needed to, to allow the Rose-selves to come through. In other words, you were saying the same things. Rose had to try to stop your “sometimes getting on your case about things,” Daisy. Then she did step in, in ways that you held dear, also. She helped you get the things into your craw, in a sense, by allowing your expression of trust in the process. You helped yourself to doses of self-berating, in some ways.

You don’t need to only allow Rose to teall you how to be a better nun. She’ll help you get the focus information you need. You don’t need to allow wronging on yourself for asking the question. If Rose needs to teall you something about the expressions you’re doing, as well as how to be a beautiful self in spirit, you don’t need to wrong on yourself for asking the questions. Okay? So that was what that was all about.

There’s no reason to believe that we won’t give you some delicious little hints to help you in your ways of finding out the information “on your own” in quotes, so to speak. Okay. So we’ll say that you’re correct, that Nardine – then Tom, was your name. Tom has to say a few words (Jo chuckles) to you today, too. Okay?

Tom here. (Jo chuckles) We’re your best friend in ways that you’re wanting to allow. Where Tom the gardener was a very big self, in physical terms, he was a very big self in spiritual terms, also. He helped your Pete, whose name was Annie, have a sontering of spirit that truly was blessed – in the sense that they blessed the gardens – with their love for each other. In other words, they liked to make love in gardens that Tom tended to.

Your wanting to connect with them is beautiful. You have a sense that they had to learn to be able to love in other ways, besides the gardening ones. That’s how you’re wanting to learn about them. What other ways did they learn to love each other, in ways that you do now? In other words, they are allowing themselves to get dirty in ways you don’t need to in this focus. But you’re also tealling them how to love in other ways less dirty. Okay?

So we’ll entice you with that morsel of evidence about them. Now, Marcos is another gardener, that was employed where your Tom was, in a sort of palace of senses. The palace was a garden-type palace, that had many gardens that were the highlight of the palace. You have a sense of palaces that are very hard-pressed to do much more than allow people to bang around in the rooms, as well as bang around in gardens. Okay, dear one? You can sort those out yourselves.

Now Mary was another girl, a garden-variety girl you might say, who was also interesting in the sort of way of spirit you have now. She was a channeler, who was a sort of dense one. She was not a sensible girl in every way. She was considered simple. But she had a sense of spirit that helped your cause in ways that were interesting. Your involvement with her, in some ways, was not quite up and up. She was a sort of girl who was taken for granted, as well as taken advantage of.

So she helped your devices in physical ways – in rolling around gardens and such – but she also helped your Tom to advise her about things beautiful, like gardening also. So you had a sexual, as well as sensual, realization with her that was profound. The physical self was indulged mostly with your Annie, not her ways of spirit necessarily. So you’re allowing spirit self into your days now, not as much then. Those days were, indeed, for your very interesting “rolling in the hay” sort of ways. Okay. We’ll say more about this focus at another time if you’d like. So do continue your beautiful explorations, dear one.

Do continue with your questions, if you’d like.

NARDINE: Thank you, thank you. I can see the networkings of final focus awareness, and how that draws these threads of other focuses together, and the balance of expression across all of the focal experiences. I will enjoy trusting, and playing, and knowing more of the truth of my imaginings. And I do sense that just ever so slight movement to the side, will open my mind in ways I haven’t allowed yet. So I do appreciate that, thank you very much.

I’m actually at the end of my questions, however, if you’re happy to, if Pete just had a couple of minutes with you, would that be okay?

ROSE: Do take on your beautiful sidestepping of sontering, it helps open the registers in some ways. Okay? That’s a very geanius insight, indeed, to have. You’re doing the work that good nuns do, dear Daisy. So do continue to allow the best ways of spirit for yourself, and allow the best selves to help your days, always. They are always here for you. Okay? So we do love you extensively in spirit, indeed.

So do say hello to sontering Pete. We’ll say more to him if you’d like, dear one. Do continue to ask your questions for him, as well as allow him to speak to Rose, dear one.

NARDINE: Thank you, very much. (Phone passed to Peter)

PETER: Hello.

ROSE: Hello. Do you have any questions for us today, or do you just want to take a look at what the weany girl looks like “in state,” dear one?

PETER: (Laughing) You look fabulous.[4] I do actually (Chuckling) have a question that I had been thinking about, and if you wouldn’t mind, yes, I’d love to ask it.

ROSE: (Humorously) Do take on the questions. We’re just teasing you a bit, for you’re wanting to express to Rose today how very divine (Humorously) she looks, we know, indeed.[5] (Chuckling with Peter) So do take on your questions, dear one.

PETER: Thank you. The question I had wanted to ask you, or find out about, was my mother and my father passed away a few years ago. And also in my father’s family, his three brothers all passed within very close proximity, within four or five years. I was just wondering, was there any great significance to them all passing over within a period of say four or five years?

ROSE: You’re correct to ask the geanius question, dear one. They were, in many ways, brothers in spirit, as well as brothers in physical reality. They have ways of getting together in many lifetimes. So you’re correct to ask the question. Do continue to ask the questions, for we love your questions, we’ve been wanting to speak with you for a very long time now.

Do continue to ask about the family connections you know about today. Do you want to continue, or would you like Rose to continue with her response to your first question?

PETER: I’d be happy if you, Rose, would please continue.

ROSE: You’ll do well to explore these connections, too, because you have a sense that they are very important to you, don’t you? You have a sense that they are with you in spirit sometimes, don’t you? The brothers, that is.

PETER: Yes.

ROSE: They are, you know. They have ways of getting your attention that you’ll find funny at times. You’ll get a sense that they’re there in spirit watching your every movement, to say, “Hey, why not think about us right now?” They’ll say, “Hey, how about telling us a story every now and then, about how you did this thing or that in ways that were funny?” They love your stories. They love you also.

They want to teall you that they have ways of getting your attention to help you also. When you get the sense that they want to help, let them. For they have ways of getting your attention, too, that will allow your best self to be expressed. For example, you have a sense they want you to thrive in ways that you don’t yet. They have many ways of finding you in spirit. Also, you have focuses with them, too.

In some ways, they’re a quad-tuplet type of energy. They have more than one to them all, in some ways. There is a fourth energy there – this is sometimes difficult to describe – but you’re, the fourth in some ways. You’re the fourth one, in some ways. Now how many focuses do you think you might have with these wonderful individuals? We’ll not call them men, because they have other focuses together that are not men, that are with you. How many focuses do you think you have with them as a set?

PETER: I would assume, probably many.

ROSE: Many indeed. Many thousands, we’ll say, even, when you consider all the probable selves that you are also. So you’re correct to ask the questions about them as a set of spiritual selves of a sort of brotherhood, but also you’re part of that brotherhood. This is not to say you’ll check out any time soon. We want to assure you of that. (Jo and Pete chuckling)

PETER: Thank you.

ROSE: You’re very welcome. But to say that you’ll have them to look forward to seeing in spirit, in your lifetime, is why you’ll want to consider how to connect with them, sooner than later. They’re always there for you, you can count on them as your angels in a sense, that will be there in spirit, long after you’re no longer physical, also. Indeed, they already are. They are a set of physical selves that have many focuses together.

JOANNE: It just cut out again![6]

(Session ended abruptly, with second Skype phone line disconnection)

(Transcribed by Nardine Neilson, January 18, 2009)

Endnotes:

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[1] Nardine’s note: This was our first Skype webcam session, and JoRose I and had the delight of seeing one another. Dear Jo was sitting gracefully “in state” and “abed.”

[2] Paul’s note: Nardine referred to which of the nine families of consciousness intents she belongs-to (as essence) and aligns-with (as a focus), her orientation (soft, intermediate, or common), and her element of essence she uses to initially process her perceptions (thought-, emotional-, political-, or religious-focused). These are three complementary typologies used by Elias and Rose.

[3] Nardine’s note: There is much affection in our hearts for Rose’s neologisms (made-up words) and her propensity for some that have not stood the application of time.

[4] Nardine’s note: This was Pete’s first Rose encounter, and with his usual finesse, he graciously acknowledged JoRose’s stately demeanor.

[5] Joanne’s note: Jeez, Rose, I can’t take you anywhere!

[6] Joanne’s note: When transcribing the session, I asked Rose to finish her thoughts about Pete’s father and brothers. She went on to say:

“The emulation of everything you have in your world that you consider manly is often potentiated by the wonderful spirits walking with you in your days. They hold court in your supposed breaks, when you don’t break, really, at all. They teall you to slow down at times, too.

“The father you have, in historical terms, was your father in many other situations — sometimes as focuses, sometimes as probable fathers – but he sometimes did not “quadrupletize” himself with the others. So you’re more ‘with’ the brothers, in some ways, than with your dad. He is special, too, though, as he has to break out of the quadruplet energy sometimes to accomplish what he does in his spiritual journeys.

“So do continue to think of them all with the many wonderful, loving thoughts you have, but also realize you’re more a part of the trio than that of your dad, in energy terms only, that is. Okay? We hope you have enjoyed the Rose session, however lengthily it has continued, and we wish you a g’day!”