“Questions & Answers”

Session 287 (Group/Seth Conference, Denver, CO)

Saturday, September 13, 2008

Participants: Joanne (Tyl), Paul (Caroll) and approximately eighty other folks.

(Paul’s note: Carol Funk gave a five minute introduction to Joanne and Rose that included a reading of the poem Joanne submitted based on the conference theme: The Dance of Consciousness. I followed with a ten minute overview of the Rose phenomenon that included some backstory on Joanne’s and my journey attending Seth Network Int’l. conferences in the 1990s, meeting Mary Ennis and friends at the famous Elmira 1997 conference, our subsequent move to Castaic, CA to study Elias and the channeling phenomenon, the creation of NewWorldView, and our interest in Ken Wilber’s integral philosophy.)

(Audience applause as JoRose is seated.[1])

(Rose Arrives: 8:37 PM.)

JOANNE: (Takes off shoes, crosses legs in chair) I know this is unlady-like, but hell, even the Buddha wore a dress.

(Gets situated) This chair is going to be interesting. (Chuckling)

JIM: Joanne, you tell me how you’d like the lights?

JOANNE: Oh, however you’d like them is fine with me.

GROUP: (Playfully expressing preferences to up, no down, no up a little!)

ROSE: Down, up, it’s all the same to us, indeed, dear ones. (10-second pause)

Weany girl[2] would like to say how very honored she is to be here this evening. We are here as her, also. She has us in your purview, in a sense. She is us – Rose. You realize that we are you also, don’t you, dear ones?

We are you in every way, in every day that you are alive. We know you. We love you. We have ways that you’d consider funny of getting your attention, indeed. Fears have many ways of getting your attention. Don’t they, Robert[3], indeed?

So realize that in every thing that you know in your physical reality, we are there with you, in every single breath that you take, indeed, dear ones. So realize how very, very, very loved you are so as to implement the interesting lives that you have in store for you, indeed. So do so.

Sontering[4] us is a very geanius[5] way to realize essence in your days. Sontering is breathing-in essence. Sontering has a very, many splendored effect, also. It is sometimes all that you need to realize us – breathing is a very geanius thing to do, indeed. (Jo chuckles)

Breathing is sometimes, very much overlooked [by] you. Breathing has many properties to it that could be described as generating health, as well as wealth, in many ways. You realize that you are rich beyond measure when you fully realize the geanius of your very being.

So do sonter us so as to get the breath of life in your very souls, indeed. We’re always there, of course, but sometimes you truly forget that we are there, indeed. So do so, as well as fear not that we have ways going through you, in the sense that we have ways of getting into you when you fear less.

So don’t fear fear. You can youse[6] fear so as to incorporate the best selves that you can possibly be, for when you realize yourselves, you realize fearlessness so as to incorporate the wonderful lives that you have in store. So do so.

Sontering is your means of getting the life-breath in you. Sontering has ways of getting, also, the fears out. Fears really only want to help you. Fears only want to support your beautiful ways. When you fear, you can truly trust that that is the way you can fear less, in many ways.

So to say this another way, fear helps you realize movement into other areas. For example, your animals fear, don’t they? They do, but what do they do, dear ones? They do what? They move into really wonderful new places. They may move into new caves or nests. They may realize some interpretation of fealing-tone in order to express things that they didn’t before. Yelling, for example, screaming at times. When did you last scream, dear ones? When you were wanting the selves you know to fear more at times, but you did not need to fear more, you only needed to move into a new space.

So, for example, the way you might consider moving into a new space would be to say, “Well, I think I need a really geanius job today.” Then what do you do? Sometimes you look for a job. Sometimes you only fear, so as to not realize wanting to look for a job. Then you do what? You fear more, because you have the anxiety on that as well.

Your fear isn’t addressed when you don’t move, but you do sometimes rationalize the movement, or lack of movement by saying, “Well, it’s really tough all over, I don’t need to move sites now. I can truly put up with whatever it is that makes me fear.” Then [you] do what to move into new areas? You do what?

You have more fear, then you fear more that you fear. So in getting to the truly necessary realization that fear helps you to get on in your days in ways that help you, that is the best lesson that your Roses could possibly to teach you. To youse fear as a means to move inward, as well as onward, indeed, dear ones. So do so. As well as… correction required (Jo laughs).

We want to specify, by the way that Rose is [a] really big essence. We are truly magnificent in every way. We’re millions, as well as millions of focuses, in a sense, but they are rolled into really big focuses of attention that you would consider essence-like. But sometimes they are truly physical. But we are not physical – Rose is not physical. We help physical reality by truly allowing essence to realize dream-state, in a sense.

Your Roses are Dream Walkers.[7] We are Dream Walkers plural. In every way you can imagine how we love you. We chreated[8] you. You are our children. You are our honoring that is implied in your implicit existence. So do try to be gentle with yourselves, for we want to take care that you have a beautiful existence, indeed, dear ones.

We are you, also. You are us, as well. We realize that this seems very big. Sonter us now to get the picture of what we are to you, as well as what you are to us. Breathe us in. Take a deep breath, (Slowly) in, as well as out. Sontering is exactly that.

To say that breathing is important is a very big understatement, indeed. So do so. Sontering us will allow your being to thrive in every way, so as to truly incorporate the things you want to do in your beautiful lives. So do so, as well as thrive in ways you do not realize.

The way of spirit is a very big theme for Rose. She has a very big interest in allowing you to assist yourselves in getting best selves that you possibly can. The thriving happens, in every way, when you realize fun, when you realize happiness, when you realize a roll in the hay, when you realize a very big drink at times.

So do take care to understand that your world is there to be fully, fully embraced, as well as realized excellently in your every breath, indeed.

Now, we’ll also say that you have senses that you don’t fully realize yet. You do have the ability to channel. Each and every one of you does channel in your own ways. You do have a sense that you realize this, but you shun that at times. Why is that, dear ones? Why do you shun what you realize in essence to be a very beautiful expression? You do what?

You fear only that the things you want to chreate will not be geanius, or will not be beautiful enough, or will not be senxual enough, or will not be saleable enough. But dear ones, the things in you need expression. You only, truly need to fear less then allow yourselves to realize the best expressions that you can, indeed.

Now, what things do you want to do? You could realize channeling in the same way that your dear one, Joanne, is. You could truly realize painting, or sculpture, or singing, or any contrary expression that you might want to have.

Now we’ll elaborate a bit on that deeply significant word, contrary. (17-second pause, while Joanne takes a drink of water.)

The contrary self is the best self you might possibly consider having. The contrary self is the best self that you might consider being in the world. The contrary self is your bitchy self that you sometimes articulate, but sometimes you don’t. Why is that, dear ones?

Because you fear that your contrary self needs to hide itself away to realize niceness, to understand others more than you do. That is not a very bad thing, either. We’re not suggesting that you only need to realize bitchiness in your days, dear ones; you do need that sometimes though.

Bitchiness (Joanne laughs) is how you, at times express the contrary self, but that’s not the only way. You might realize how you could express to yourselves that you don’t want to realize things that you do.

At times you may want to express that you have more provisions of happiness in store, that you wean yourself of fears that you feal,[9] if you had to understand that the way for is quality for you. So don’t fear that you will understand only the things you need to. You’ll understand also the things you’ll want to, also.

For example, you consider life to be a wondrous thing, indeed. You appreciate it very much, you do. We realize that you realize more than most individuals about the really beautiful, theatrical world you live in. You harbor things that you want to do, but you don’t act on them. Why is that, dear ones? We’ll wait for your answer now, indeed. (Pause)

Fear!

You fear only the things that you can’t change. You fear only the things you can’t change, but you do have a sense that you can change more things than you think you can, right? (12-second pause)

R-O-L-L-Y, Rolly, truly. Rolly is a wrong-headed way to provide yourselves with fears. Rolly is going to be our provision of an example, because no one here is named Rolly, correct? We’ll say more about Rolly in a moment, but we’ll also say that you have a sense that you’re all Rolly now. Okay?

So Rolly has things to do. He has places to go. He has more to him than he can imagine at times. So when Rolly wants to say things, what does he do? He what?

He may say things. He may not say things, but he wants to say things. Why is that, dear ones? Why does Rolly want to say things to you, as well as to individuals that you may know, for example?

Rolly has what? Essence in him. Rolly is essence, indeed. But Rolly at times has to fear less than he does. Then he will make, in every way, a sensational world when he only trusts, as well as allows. So Rolly needs to do what?

He needs to sonter us. He needs to fear less. He only truly needs to do exactly that in order to beautifully chreate in ways that he wants to, indeed, that he became physical for in the first place. So Rolly needs your fealing-tone to tell him to do the things he wants to do. Let’s geaniusly provide Rolly that fealing-tone now.

Rolly, is that you in the room in every seat that you occupy today? That’s right, Rolly is you.

So let’s try to send Rolly the fearless, chreative energy that he needs right now. Okay? So breathe us in now (Slowly) so as to allow Rolly, really allow Rolly, to soak up all the beautiful essence energy that he needs right now.

(Slowly) Rolly, what do you think about that? Rolly, what do you think about how very wonderful the individuals in this room are? What do you truly want to say to them, indeed?

Rolly says, “Thank you.”

So Rolly is you. Correct? Rolly is you in every single breath that you realize in the way of spirit for yourselves. Rolly has sontering to do. Rolly has beautiful chreations to make. Rolly has singularity in his methods of expression, also.

Now Rolly has to say a few really terse words to you that you’ll find beautiful. They are, “Thank you, indeed, for all that energy that you sent to yourselves.”

For when you are really helping your Rolly’s, you are truly realizing the greatest gifts you can truly know. For the way that you have of allowing the many individuals in your space today to thrive is a magnificent chreation that we, indeed, love to see.

Your essences love your existence. We want you to thrive, indeed. When you feal that you want to exemplify us, you do so in every way.

Your wanting to read Seth is an admirable thing, even to your essences, indeed, dear ones. Your wanting to express to each other the support you feel towards them is a very big expression to us [even].

So truly, we want to express to you tonight that there is really never any reason to fear. You only really do that to allow yourselves to move into new areas that we’ll help you get into now. We have a sort of teaching that is more than teaching, in some ways. It’s a way of finding satisfaction.

So Rose has to say a few words (Joanne chuckles) about her teachings to allow your understanding about her agenda in the world, in a sense. We are very big, indeed. (Humorously) When Rose sits around the house, indeed, she sits around the house, in every way. (Joanne laughs)

So when you realize that we’re very big, you’re only getting bigger, in some ways, when you understand that we’re wanting your best understanding of your Rose’s agenda.

So realize that we’re telling you this because we sense that you’ll want to appreciate that there’s every reason to fully don your hats of teaching so as to realize the expressions that you desire in the world.

You want to teach others, dear ones. We want you to teach others. Now, that’s not to say you need to be on every stage in every parlor in the world, but you can teall[10] – tell as well as teach others – in your ways of spirit. Now why don’t you do that at times? Why do you implore that we do the things you want to do in the world?

You want us to fix your issues. We don’t want to do that. That’s your really big job. You’re wanting to help the world. Indeed, why not start tonight by allowing Rose to help you understand how very necessary that is, for you do want to change the world. You do want to realize change so you can thrive, in every way, as well as allow others to thrive.

So when you understand that you do need to teall others that your Seth has the way that they may find understandable, as well as satisfying, you might consider yourselves the bitchy contrary selves you’ve always wanted to be. (Joanne chuckles)

For why not allow the contrary self to be in the world tealling the many individuals in your lives about the things you’ve learned about the world, that you’ve learned from Seth? That is how you can truly change the world – move into new areas of expression that will excitedly influence the many individuals in the world.

Now we’re not saying that you need to teall others that you may not feal comfortable about doing that to, but we’ll suggest that there are many individuals who are ready that you feal, understandably, have some provisions of fear. But there is sometimes that need to fear, but other times you don’t need to really, because why? They do chreate their reality, indeed, after all.

So don’t wrong on yourselves – W-R-O-N-G – on yourselves when you feal the need to share the information. You’re doing a geanius thing when you do. But you sometimes need to temper that with your truly, truly sensitive senses, so as to allow the best expressions for yourselves to come through you, indeed.

We’re not suggesting that you teall others that you don’t feal need that. You don’t need to teall everyone that you need to teall, either. But sometimes you have the need to teall others. Why don’t you now do that?

Because you’re wanting fear to, in every way, get in your way. So don’t do that. Youse fear to express to you how to move, then do so. The fear can dissipate when you allow yourselves to speak the words of Seth to others. The fear can dissipate when you allow essence to speak through you, the same way that we’re doing now, dear ones. You have the abilities that [Joanne] does, in every way.

That is why your Roses are here tonight, to tell you that you have every ability that she has, that your beautiful Jane had also, as well as still does, in every way. We’re wanting you to allow yourselves to express your best selves in order to realize how to satisfy your selves, as well as satisfy others in the world.

Now we’ll also temper that with your wanting to teall others that you may not need to at times, because others have the way of spirit in them already. They have religious ways at times. They have sometimes backwards ways, so you can truly express that you don’t need to teall everyone tonight, either. But you can express to yourselves that sometimes that is what you need to do.

So don’t be in the closet about your deep devotion to Seth. That is very allowing of beautiful inspirations in yourselves, as well as in your world. Contrary to what you may think about that, you have many reasons to say the things you need to say.

Contrariness is what the Rose agenda is about, in every way. Contrary selves need to be expressed in the world. The ways you have of speaking up at times, are truly the way of spirit.

Not every being in the world is needing to be nice all the time. Sometimes you need to be bullying, not in the sense that you need to be a bully, but you need to stand up to bullies in ways that sometimes feal like bullying. So don’t allow yourselves to be shy about how you want to express the things you do in the world.

Your very devotion speaks volumes for your intentionality in your world. You don’t need to wrong yourselves into believing that you need to only be very mouse-like in your beliefs. You can express in clear words that you’re wanting to assist others in your way of spirit. So do so.

And we’ll allow your questions about that, or any other things that you’d like to this evening, dear ones.

PAUL: Okay, the floor is open for questions.

MELINDA: Hey Rose! Melinda here. I just went through a mass event – Hurricane Gustav in Louisiana – along with a lot of people in our region. And I was wondering if you have any insight that you could to share with us on the reasons for creating that, not only on a personal level, or perhaps on a regional level? I’d be interested to know.

ROSE: Indeed, dear one, you have many expressions of flooding in your days now. Also, your chreations have ways of tealling you things that have more in store for you in the future, in some ways. We’ll suggest that we don’t consider crystal ball questions, but we do want to prognosticate a bit so as to tell you that, sometimes, the way you get around is in flood-like waters.

You have a sense that sometimes you need to, contrary to your beliefs, flood your waters in ways that bring you to the places you need to be. For example, the floods have reaching ways that you wouldn’t see otherwise. You don’t see the shores that you chreate when you realize floods do you? So you have a sense that floods help you in ways that chreate more shores than you have realized before. So flooding is a sensible thing to do, in realizing how many shores you’re wanting to chreate in time.

Floods also help you realize helpfulness to each other. Helpfulness needs to occur in every way, but you sometimes theatrically chreate floods, as well as other provisions of creations of trauma, to help you understand how to help others without the intervention of the government.

Indeed, the government will not help you, in some ways, but the caring individuals who surround you always do, don’t they? So they have the way of spirit about them that you can extrapolate for yourselves what you need to about governments, indeed, can’t you?

So don’t wrong yourselves into thinking that the only way to help others is through the authoritarian structures. That’s only one way that you haven’t quite been able to support lately. (Joanne chuckles)

But you can realize how to allow yourselves to be the saviors you know you are, indeed, inside each of you. So don’t look to your authorities to assist you any more than you need to, but do try to consider yourselves the authorities that you need to be.

So when you realize that, your contrary self will say, for example, “Don the life-jackets.” That is your way of expressing essence. The contrary way you might go about that may seem like a subtle way to bully another into protecting himself or herself, in some ways, but isn’t that what you trust your authorities to do, also?

So when you realize that others need you to teall them what to do at times, you’ll allow yourselves to chreate them, also, in ways that are truly benefiting themselves. You’ll chreate them in ways that help them to realize their own saviors so as to help others, too. For that’s quite the way that you have of truly reciprocating when others help you. You want to do so, also.

So when you’re realizing that you need to sometimes be in [the] faces of other individuals to tell them to ban the houses, or to get in lifeboats, you may seem to consider this to be telling them how to chreate their own reality. That’s why you’re doing that – to help them chreate their reality in ways that are beneficial to them.

So the floods help you realize how very flooding you are in ways that express the best selves that you can – by allowing yourselves to flood the world in ways that are truly beneficial, as well as tealling that there are other shores to be considered in your provisions of chreating your realities.

RONNIE: “Rolly”-Ronnie has a question. When it comes to the use of the word contrary, and we’re dealing with listening to our fears to move forward, to understand what change we need to be done. Could we have more trust if we felt as a contrarian – as a counterintuitive contrarian – that we will simply trust our spontaneity?

The spontaneous self is something Seth has often referred to – to trust it irrespective of what the immediate response might be, that ultimately you’ll feel the benefit. So contrarian spontaneity – your spontaneous self – do you have an emphasis that would help us be more creative in being spontaneous, or being contrary?

ROSE: Indeed, that’s as geanius a question as we could expect [tonight], as well as the flood question, indeed, dear one. So to say that another way, your wanting to speak out about spontaneity is what is spontaneous. Correct?

So to say that contrariness is the same thing is allowing that to thoroughly empede,[11] in some ways, the spontaneous self, but it’s not.

The intuition that you feal at times has to do with the contrary self. The intuitions sometimes tell you to be spontaneous, then sometimes will also teall you to be contrary. They are sometimes the same, but sometimes different. Sometimes you need to get past the sense that you need to say something before you say it. That can sometimes be the spontaneous self allowing your intention to thrive.

Sometimes the spontaneous self allows more self to take over their really big provision of expression that you have. So it will include the spontaneous self, but not always. This is sometimes subtle to speak about, to say that you have spontaneity is why you want to ask the question, but you also need to realize that you’re wanting to express contrariness in the question, also.

You did say a few words in spite of the fear of speaking up, correct? Sometimes you have a fear that you need to say only the things you need to say, but now you want to say more. That’s quite provisioning of the way of spirit, as well as the way of intuition, as well as the way of spontaneity – they are all the same.

The spontaneity you need to have is to, in every way, allow your best selves. So why not consider that your best self has to say things that are contrary sometimes? That is how you, contrary to your beliefs perhaps, move in ways that you need to.

For example, you help others by trusting them to say things for you sometimes. The elections are one way of doing this. You’re allowing the elections to say things for you. Will they say what you want to say?

If not, why not try to exclude your fears then realize how you can realize spontaneity in your voting self. The realization of fear has to do with elections also, don’t they? We learned this today from our dear Chris Johnson.[12]

So you need to understand that your fears help the bad guys win at times. Your bad guys aren’t really bad – they are to you at times, but you need to allow that to occur when you need to. But this is not to say that fear has anything to do that way. In every way it does, but in some ways it doesn’t. We’re getting into subtle areas here, so we want to speak about fear for a moment.

You realize fear, in every way, when you distrust the election process, for example. That is to say you can be, contrary to your thinking, allowing the best guy to win, but you don’t. You sometimes fear. Then you chreate things that you want to have to help you fear more.

So you don’t allow your contrary self to say, “Hey, that is not the one we want in charge here!” The contrary self wants to express that, but you sometimes don’t take on that self, because you don’t fear enough at times.

You may want to fear less at times, so you truly don’t give birth to your fears. So your contrary self gets put aside, in many ways. Even when you eat things that you don’t want to eat because you’re being polite – that’s how you squash the contrary self.

So your contrary self is very big, in many ways, in regard to spontaneity, but that’s only part of that expression. The spontaneity is sometimes there in your contrary self. Sometimes the contrary self is in your spontaneous self, but not always, dear one.

Okay, did we answer your question?

RONNIE: Yes, thank you.

ROSE: Thank you.

Any other questions tonight, dear ones?

Okay, we’ll say that you are a very big, geanius group that is in every way a boon to your Seth interests, your Seth material. You have a geanius way. You partake in ways that are spectacular to us.

So don’t worry about the elections, that is sometimes the way things need to go. In every way, you’ll be fearless in your expressions, wherever you need to allow that fearlessness to occur. So do so, as well as continue to allow your best expressions to thrive, as well as to beautifully chreate the things you want in your lives, indeed, dear ones.

Now we’ll say, also, that you need to pipe up to Rose. She expects her students to say the things they want to say. So don’t be wallflowers to Rose. We want to help you realize the very best things for yourselves, as well as sometimes to help yourselves to partake in essence in allowing yourselves to understand the precepts, as well as the very things your dear Seth, as well as Elias, assist you in. So do so.

Sonter us now to tell you how to beautifully, in every way, inspire yourselves as well as others in your everyday world. So do so. And we’ll always be there to assist, dear ones.

Now we’ll say good night, unless you have further questions, dear ones.

No? Okay. So we’ll say goodnight, as well as good news, indeed, dear ones.

PAUL: Thank you, Rose.

ROSE: You’re very welcome.

GROUP: (Applauding) Thanks.

(Rose departs 9:23 PM.)

JOANNE: Are there any questions for me?[13]

FEMALE: How do you feel?

JOANNE: (Laughing) I feal great! This is my biggest group so far, and it was challenging to sit in front of this venerable group. You’ve been exposed to the very best teachers, so it’s a little daunting, but I always feal wonderful when Rose is present.

Did you feal the presence at all, did you feel the energy in the room?

FEMALE: Yes.

JOANNE: Yeah. So I thank you all for being part of this for me.

RONNIE: Joanne, did you have some fear before this event unfolded that’s helped you move a little more strongly or affirmatively, or subdued?

JOANNE: Yeah, I did. Thank you for asking that question, that’s a really good one, too.

The fear I had is the same fear that I had before I started, and Rose reminded me of the reason that I do channel now. That is that I really care about people, and I want to help people. And it helps me really get out of my fear (Chuckles) and realize that. And it helps me get out of, I guess you could say, my ego-self. So that always helps me, when I remember that. (Laughs)

EDWARD: When you’re doing this, do you feel the shift of the concepts that you’re receiving, or the weight of the concepts? Or can you describe that quality as you sit there as a conscious observer?

JOANNE: Yeah, I do. I don’t know if you noticed, but I was taking some really deep breaths, (Chuckles) I was taking some really, you know, really just trying to keep myself centered and focused throughout the session, because of the weight of those. That’s exactly what I was fealing, yes.

I try to get out of the way. I’m sort of trying to focus on getting every word right, so I lose myself and sometimes I get the concept, sometimes I just get a couple of words ahead. But that focus on every word, and getting every word right keeps me from really understanding what she’s saying a lot of the times.

So I’m conscious some of the time, but I guess you could say I’m conscious of the words (Laughs) coming out, but not the words around them, or the sentences around that, or the paragraphs around that.

JOE: I’ve got a question. There were several points that Rose mentioned that seemed directed strictly to me. Is that the way it kind of goes, or is it generalized for everybody?

JOANNE: (Laughs) I think she senses the people in the room and speaks to them. So, yeah, I think – (Humorously) is your name Rolly? (Group laughs)

JOE: It’s Joe.

JOANNE: That’s what she does. She seems to read everybody.

Any other questions? Yes?

ED: When you laugh, who’s laughing?

JOANNE: I’m laughing. That’s a good question, too. You just said when you laugh who’s laughing? And it’s me laughing. (Laughing) I don’t know about some of the words that come out of her mouth! Sometimes she’s really funny, and I hope you get a chance to know her better. Sometimes just the things that are coming out her mouth are so audacious that I just have to laugh. (Laughs)

You know I can’t believe it, you know. In some ways I still can’t believe this is happening. So, that’s me.

There’s one point I wanted to say though, that there was one time when I just started laughing for no reason – it was in the middle of a session – and I just started laughing, and I was confused because I think, I think of something and that makes me laugh, and within a couple of seconds she was talking about how she can – as essence – manipulate my emotions. So that was a little display of that, but I haven’t gotten any of that since then.

Okay? Well thank you all. I really appreciate you coming out tonight. Thank you very much.

GROUP: (Applause)

(Rose Departs: 9:29 PM.)

(Transcribed by Nardine Neilson, October 22, 2008.) 

Endnotes

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[1] Joanne’s note: I had more than my usual performance anxiety before this session. It was a much larger audience than I was used to, comprised of devotees who’d spent two full days immersed in the Seth Material. It occurred after a full day of sessions, happy hour, and dinner. Of the estimated eighty-plus participants, only two had ever been to a Rose session, and so everything was brand new. Paul used the analogy of going to see a favorite band but all they played were new tunes from a new album. So the general group response was polite and reserved, but less than enthusiastic throughout, which affected my delivery and concentration.

Harry Johnson, who channels Mill, later remarked that it took his focus personality a long time to deal with the performance issue, and that Mill didn’t come out to more than a small group of five or six people for nearly five years! Harry/Mill went on to say that I had passed through a threshold, and that because there is a different and more complex energy configuration in a room of many energies, the focus personality, particularly under such pressure, is always likely to interfere with the energy exchange.

Rose challenged the audience, too, especially in discussing fears. A person later said, “Fear isn’t a problem for Seth readers,” but I disagree, as evidenced by ten years of experience with various online groups, conferences, group and private channeling sessions. The fact is that many Seth readers are still in the closet about their love of the Seth Material! Rose also encouraged the audience to channel, which takes a large dose of fearlessness, particularly if what’s holding you back is the fear that you’ll never be as good as Seth. In hindsight, this was a solid session with a nice overview of many of Rose’s main themes presented to date. The fact that it wasn’t a perfect performance also had its own benefits, as the folks who gave me the most positive feedback were those developing their own channeling abilities and felt encouraged to continue.

[2] Paul’s note: This is Rose’s affectionate name for Joanne as she weans herself of old habits, limiting beliefs, and fears. For more information, see The Rose Glossary.

[3] Joanne’s note: Rose was referring to a story that Robert Waggoner, aka Dream Bob, had told earlier that day in his session about an experience he had in noticing his fear after been hit on the head by bird shit.

[4] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words). Sontering is “the breathing in of essence,” and involves a kind of empathic mergence with the object of sontering. For more info, see Sonter (Breathe in Essence).

[5] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of genes and genius. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[6] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of you and use. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[7] Paul’ note: The term Dream Walkers was introduced by Elias to describe Aspects of essence involved in the creation of what Seth called Framework 1. Seth referred to these Aspects as Sleepwalkers in Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 (1986) in relation to his creation mythos.

For more info, see Digests: Dream Walkers; an overview.

[8] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of Christ and create. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[9] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of feel and real. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[10] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of tell and teach. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[11] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of impede and empathy. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[12] Paul’s note: Rose referred to a Speaker, and friend of ours, whose session Joanne attended earlier that day.

[13] Paul’s note: Of course, being in a Seth group, there were a handful of people who channel and have other psychic abilities present. One woman, Georgiena, came up to us afterward with a sketch of JoRose’s aura. Georgiena saw rose and gold colored lights around JoRose’s torso and a rather large crown that she said was four times as big as when she saw Ester Hicks and Abraham.

I don’t know if there is a direct crown chakra correlation between the “size” or density of the essence gestalt that people exchange with, but we do know that Rose consists of many millions of essences, so it makes sense that there would be something in JoRose’s aura to indicate this.

Georgiena also pointed out that “grounding” elements appeared under JoRose’s chair about fifteen minutes into her speaking, and this was around the time that JoRose settled more into the exchange. Again it takes a lot of courage and energy to go in front of such a “venerable” group as Joanne pointed out after the session.