Session 202 (Private/Phone)
Saturday, December 08, 2007
Participants: Joanne (Tyl), and Don (Sammas).
(Rose arrives: 1:00 PM.)
ROSE: We are weaning the “weany girl” of her need to beautifully create so much talk before sessions. (To Joanne) We’d have realized the instructions, if you needed them, so you can relax, weany girl.
JOANNE: And this is Joanne speaking, Don. I’m present throughout the session, so you might hear me come in and I’ll try to remember to say, “It’s me,” but she calls me weany girl (Laughs) – W-E-A-N-Y – it’s a long story, so she’s just giving me a hard time, like she does. Okay, I’m going back in. (Deep breath)
ROSE: You’re welcome, weany girl. (Jo chuckles) We’ll want to assure you, Don, that you’ll find us to be a very interested one, for we want only to assure that you have every reason to believe that you have the same abilities that weany girl here does. You have the abilities to channel. That’s right. The way you can think of your Rose will be as a cheerleader for you, in every way. To take on your channeling is daunting sometimes to think of, but we suggest you find ways to consider that you have every ability that everyone does. That’s right.
We will define channeling in a very broad way. We define channeling as the bringing of internal information to your outer expressions in ways that will be considered accurate, indeed, for accuracy will be the intentionality that will want to assert the way of spirit for you in your world, so to speak.
So you have intentionality, and we’ll discuss this today if you’d like, but also, your intentionality is what drives the channeling phenomenon. For example, the Rose phenomenon is considered a Sumilda exchange because your Joanne is Sumafi/Ilda in her belonging-to, as well as aligned-with Borledim. To take on a job like hers involves the need to nurture the world, so you’ll find that your families of consciousness[1] will provide a beautiful set of guides for you to use to help find people’s intentionalities, including your own.
Your Joanne’s intentionality is to provide this for others. You are in league together, for reasons that will become clearer in time. Indeed, we’re making a crystal ball prediction here, but you’ll find company in her way of spirit once you get to know your way of spirit a bit more. This isn’t to say that you haven’t been following your way of spirit to this present time – you have, but there’s reason to believe that you’re ready to take up your game a few notches, in your terms, in order to realize the wonderful expressions that await you, in your terms. So do try to realize that we’re only making suggestions.
You’ll not need to incorporate contrary training in a great way; you know things already. You have a virtual plethora of abilities that need only to realize themselves, in your terms, in your way of spirit. This includes your way of inspired songs, inspired writing, inspired professional interests such as treating others to your wisdom on your job.
You have a wonderful sense of finding humor in situations – this is a gift that you can consider a divine gift, indeed. You have a wonderful knack for fixing things, in some respects. You shy away only when you feal[2] the need to not fix things more than they are already. In this, sometimes you choose to sometimes let things break as well. There’s nothing wrong with this, indeed. You need to allow breaking, in your terms, in some respects, to allow the things you want fixed to be so.
Trust that your recent creations won’t do anyone any good being fixed, indeed. You don’t need to fix everything, Don. So trust that this will be our opening salvo, so to speak, in order to get you perhaps considering directions that you can go into, but this isn’t necessary. You’ll find that when you realize your way of spirit, you’ll find things fixed in a very big way, so trust you will. We’ll allow your questions, if you’d like now?
DON: Okay, well, my animal friend is meowing at me right now, but it is a small distraction.
ROSE: Do you need to give her some crunchies perhaps?
DON: No, he’s just bored, looking for things to do. Now, you were talking about a bringing out of inner material, and how it can be done in different ways. I’ve been trying to do that with writing. As far as the channeling, I have a small problem with that, and I think that problem is not allowing myself to relax control, you know, my ego not wanting to release control to let myself do it, you know what I mean?
ROSE: Yes, we understand. That’s why we allowed your Joanne to channel some channeling information this morning to send to you.[3] You have to let go of your ego self in order to allow your intentional self. Consider your ego self to be what you’ve learned, what your rational self tells you about. Trust that your intentional self is where you’re headed, so to speak, so both are important, though your intentional self is finding you in spirit more than your ego self is lately.
In some respects, you’re growing into your intentionality, as well as allowing your allowance, so to speak, for channeling. This requires you to fear less, in your terms, to try to put aside your ego self. You only need to not fear, because that’s where your ego self does so very well – it fears, so it plans, it shapes, it imagines fearful things that will happen if you refuse to fear, but when you let go of your fears, what do you get? More fears? Indeed not, you get less fears, but your ego self won’t tell you this. Your ego self will tell you that you’ll have more reason to fear once we suggest you put aside one set of fears [because] you’ll only get another set.
To allow yourself to begin to not fear, you’ll allow your intentional self to leave your ego self behind in your sixth grade so you can progress to your seventh grade. These stages of development are very real, indeed. You grow to become the beautiful essences that you are. Why not begin to embrace yourselves as essence, as your channeling information tells you to do?
In this, you can trust that your essence self, indeed, wants only your benefit, as well as your happiness. That’s why sometimes you create the things you do, to break yourselves open, to trust that the way of spirit will help you put the pieces back together in new ways. You’ll find truly revelatory, as well as fulfilling, as well as finding of your intentionality, that is so, so very needed in your world.
Indeed, you’re picking up on this, in a very big way, for you not only know that you have the Divine Spirit that only needs intentionality to become realized, but you also sense in others a sense of despair, because they don’t want to follow their intentionality. They don’t even know that it exists, in some respects. They do have a sense that there’s something better, in some ways, ahead of them, but until you find the things you desire in expressing, there won’t be any joy in Mudville, so to speak, because the thing is that you’ll need to find your own unique style of not only accessing your information, but in communicating it as well. And this will be our Rose agenda – to assist individuals in doing so.[4]
So we’ll allow your questions in every way, but we would like to assure you, that in any way we can, we would like to inform you of your intentionality, as well as your family intentional reading. Would you like us to do this now?
DON: Yes, that would be great. I have a little problem with my telephone. We’re right next to a County & Western radio station (Joanne laughs), and believe it or not, it comes in over the phone line just a little bit, so you have some competition there.
ROSE: (Humorously) Twangy music suits us very well indeed. We love all music, in spite of its emotionality at times. We think it’s beautiful in its divinity. To respond to your question about your realization of your intentionality, we will say that your belonging-to is Sumafi; your aligned-with is Tumold. Do you understand that these are what Kris also told you?
DON: Well, Kris gave me the “six-pack.” I don’t know if he used quite the same term then. He divided it into first of all focus and then essence – three families for each.
ROSE: That’s correct. Your focus is your Tumold, which is what we call alignment. The essence is your belonging-to, which we have identified as Sumari. Now, Kris does his six-pack, we like to keep things simple, so we’ll also say that we were testing you a bit, because you need to continually be on your toes with us. We’ll throw you some curve balls from time to time, because we know that Kris indeed does his six-pack, and we’ll say also that you’ll find some discrepancies between the important essences that we are. We’re joking, but you’ll see that there are differences, as well as fine collaborations that co-exist between us, because that’s the point.
The intentionalities will color us, in your terms, in ways that realize the wonderful exuberance of life in all of its many choices, so your intentionalities will allow you great berths in regard to what you channel, Don. So trust that when you channel you don’t need to be anything like anyone else. You have very high standards with regard to what you’ll be saying to people, so don’t try to be Seth – you are Seth already, and your expressions will be allowed differentiation from Seth, indeed, that’s the point. You need to not think of yourself as a source, but as a filter of the greatest teachers in your world, as well as a filter for your own intentionalities.
In this, the intentionality is of Tumold. You have a gift of healing, but you also try to fix things that need to stay broken. In this, the Tumold alignment is tricky, but this goes with the territory. Every aligned-with, so to speak, has its built in challenges. The Borledim alignment, for example, that your Joanne has in spirit is her way of finding ways to nurture everyone but herself. So, the aligned-withs will help you see where you’re going – to a sort of party that you never get to.
It’s frustrating at times, that’s why we want to talk about your Sumari self. The belonging-to means that your focuses of essence are all thematically linked in spirit, in Sumafi-Sumari. You have a double intentionality in your belonging-to and aligned-with.
(To Joanne) That’s correct. We’re testing you Joanne. You need to get out of your way.
JOANNE: Okay, just a moment.
ROSE: The Sumafi belonging-to – you are Sumafi belonging-to – is a way of spirit that is uniquely interested in “least distortion.” The Sumafi you’ll find in your libraries, in your words of wisdom traditions, indeed. Your Elias is Sumafi. So you want the truth, in some respects, but not with a capital “T,” because the Truth with a capital “T” only really exists in essence, not in focus life, so to speak. The Truth with a capital “T” is your energy, your consciousness, your love, your colors, as well as your finding meaning in your world as focuses of attention. There’s no meaning except your gloriousness in your divinity. We’ll want to comment on your thread, in time, but for now, we sense you get the words we’re saying.
You’ll find meaning wherever you want to, as well as in your divinity. That’s why we’re encouraging you to trust that you’ll find meaningfulness, in every way, when you get to finding your way of spirit. We’ll help. We’ll provide you as much information as we can to assist you on your way, because you need to help others find their way, indeed. You want this, so why do you not want to assist others? Because you want to help yourself first, so Rose will do so whenever you’d like. Trust that you can email us when you have questions, as well as talk to us in person, and we will assist any way we can. We’ll also provide many documents online for you to read in your copious spare time, so trust that we’ll help you any way we can.
So, we will honor your questions now that we’ve gone on and on and on. (Humorously) We always want to hear from you even though we are a bit long winded indeed.
DON: Well, now one problem I have with this is: I’m realizing that there are so many choices as to what I can be, that it is a real problem to narrow them down, and actually choose. You know what I mean?
ROSE: Yes. Sumari is what will interject into your alignment, for you are Tumold as well as Sumari. We’re testing Joanne in her realization of her ways of spirit are to be not as interested in her abilities while she channels us. In this, we’re providing you an excellent example as well, for you’ll want to allow yourself to make mistakes, in your terms, because there are no mistakes, of course, but also the way of spirit, for you, is to trust yourself. So make mistakes. You don’t hold anything against Joanne for trying hard to get it right but failing at times, do you?[5]
DON: Well, the hardest mistakes to forgive are the ones that I make, not the ones that other people make.
ROSE: Exactly. And do you know what you have in common with Joanne? That’s exactly right – she’s exactly the same way you are, but she’s surmounting her fears in order to assist individuals. This is why she began channeling in the first place. She sees the need, as you do, to assist other individuals. You have the gifts, but you hold the way of spirit in such high regard that you’re not wanting to realize your mistakes along the way. Indeed, there are none. Even in your channeling session that you’re experiencing now, there are mistakes, but you don’t hold them against Joanne, do you? Of course not.
We are wanting so much to tell you what a beautiful individual you are, indeed, Don. You have a great capacity for trusting in your way of spirit that you almost want to throw away the gifts you have for fear of failing. But don’t, because that’s the point: you won’t fail. You absolutely can’t fail. You have only the best resources in you, as well as those around you. Trust that if you fail, your community won’t allow you to feal badly. You have a great many individuals [that] are wanting you to succeed, so do so.
We think you would do well as a community builder. We believe your way of spirit entices you to help other individuals find their way of spirit online, in many ways, because your writings will find you helping others in time. You only need to tune into your Self, in some ways, so that you can realize the autotyping you are able to do.
Now, we suggest you give this a try – get up in your morning, early if you need to, and sit down and try to autotype. You only need to rest your fingers on your keyboard. That’s all, then just rest-in-Rose. We did this with Joanne, as well as found ways to reach her on your Ouija board. So choose whatever means you want to, but try to stick with it, because in time you will find this will work. It took about three weeks for Joanne to have some Rose come through. This took a long time, in your terms, because she wasn’t at all adept with a Ouija board – not one bit. The only thing she wanted to do was get a few colored dots as readings of one’s intentionality, as well as she had a strong desire to help others. That’s all it took for her to get into her Rose self.
Indeed, why not try to consider that your best self is that which wants to assist others? Your community will find ways to focus on individual interests, but this is only half the challenge. The self you are moving into is a vast one, so why not begin to consider yourself as your community on NewWorldView, for example, or in your neighborhood, or your workplace, so as to begin to expand the sense of self that you already have in yourself?
So trust that this is a good way to connect with your own essence, as well as your channeling ability for this is the point: you need to do so. You need your essence to allow yourself to be your greatest self, indeed, as well as your most fulfilled self. We would like to give you your essence name from Rose, if you’d like? Would you like that? Can you hear us?
DON: Yes.
ROSE: Okay. We will say your essence name now. Is that okay?
DON: Yes.
ROSE: Okay. The way you can think of Rose’s name is different than your Kris’ name, because we look at you differently. You can find any way at all to allow yourself a name, but you won’t find these similarities too great. We would like to call you S-A-M-A-S – Samas (SAM-mass).
DON: Okay, I’ll answer to that. (Joanne laughs)
ROSE: That’s two M’s.
DON: Okay.
ROSE: It’s also the same way spelled backwards, as well as forwards, so you’ll find this to be fitting any direction you choose to go in, indeed.
DON: Now, when Kris gave me an essence name he said that he picked it up from one particular focus. Now, do you do the same thing?
ROSE: You’re correct, that I do. We will say that your focus that we’re picking up on is a very large man who lived in your time of 8th century in England, as it’s called now. He was a very fulfilled individual, in every way. We suggest he was corpulent in spirit, as well as in physical reality, for he was allowing an exchange in spirit that would be considered channeling. He was an expert fixer of individuals, indeed, as well. He found a wealth of fame in his small town, because he was indivisible, in many respects. He was only interested, in your terms, in others but he found ways to embrace his own desires at the same time.
He overate, but this was in keeping, in some ways, with his way of spirit because he wanted to express the love he felt for others to himself. He couldn’t quite feal it, in your terms, in other ways, so he was realizing eating as a means to get to his heart, so to speak. He wanted to express to himself his love and he did it through food, which is why he was so fat. That’s why we wanted to name you Sammas. So you can think of yourself as a wide individual indeed, for he was a great man. He found love in his community, in his family. He was married to a wonderful fat woman, indeed. He wanted only to express to himself the love of spirit, and he did so by not having children. He was only interested in his wife, himself, and his community.
He found a loving realization of spirit in his way of finding jobs for individuals. He would see things in people that would help him find ways to share what they didn’t know about themselves. For example, he would see that the carpenter wasn’t happy in making door frames or doors, so he would suggest that the carpenters make toys instead. That way they could utilize their sometimes contrary continuing skills, but without boring themselves to death with the same things over and over.
In this, they would be happier people. In this, they would create a happier community, for indeed, why wouldn’t you wish to find your sense of community in your roles rather than finding your roles in your sense of your community? For, why wouldn’t you wish to sculpt the way of spirit en masse in ways that would fit your roles instead of the other way around, for your wanting to fit round pegs in square holes will not suffice for much longer.
This is the point: your world needs you to find helpfulness in your way of spirit towards others, so trust that you’ll have many ways to do so. We’re only suggesting that your Sammas sounds like an excellent role model for you, so trust that he’s available for consultations at any time, and we’ll suggest also he’s with you in a big way inside you, because you have a great capacity, as well as a great hunger for desires that you’ll do well to beautifully create in your life the way your Sammas did in his.
He was healthy, don’t worry, he wasn’t obese in an unhealthy way. He savored life, and he enjoyed life in every way, so do so, indeed. Trust Sammas will be, indeed, wanting to assist you as well, for he’s in your dreams, in your aspirations, and even in your thoughts now that we’ve brought him there. So trust that he’ll allow your questions at any time including now if you’d like, for Rose does have the ability to provide readings of other individuals in time, indeed.
We’ll allow your questions now, dear Sammas.
DON: [Some people] talk about being more in touch, or having a better relationship with their whole-self – essence. I’m beginning to feel that I’m more in touch than I realize, and in a way that can make it difficult because I’m trying to do something that is already there, you know?
ROSE: Exactly.
DON: [Would that] be the case?
ROSE: Yes, exactly. We suggest you have the way already in mind. You just need to step forward to take the reins, for your community is in spirit, as well as in your physical reality. The way of spirit is spiritual (Joanne chuckles), indeed, so you’re sensing the vast majority of individuals who will assist in spite of the fealing you get sometimes in your physical community where individuals don’t always wish to assist, but your spiritual community will find you in many ways to become the individual you are. You can think of them as a giant party that wants you to make your appearance, so do so.
We suggest you’ll be the life of the party indeed, Sammas. We think you have a wonderful sense of humor, as well as heart, to say the least. You have much to realize in regard to yourself, as well as the individuals in your lives. They need you, indeed, so why not step up to your plate and try to hit the home run?
DON: Baseball analogies work very well with me as I am quite a baseball fan.
ROSE: We didn’t know that. (Joanne laughs) We’re making a joke – your Joanne didn’t know that, but we do.
DON: Could I ask another question?
ROSE: Of course. Please, feal free to ask away.
DON: Well, I get the impression that I have more activity in, let’s call it the inner world or dream world, I have more activity there than I do here in the external world.
ROSE: Exactly.
DON: Is there any particular way that I concentrate those experiences, or those activities – any particular direction?
ROSE: You’re getting the internal information. The exact expression is what you’re working on now. We suggested the autotyping is a good way to figure that out, but we’ll indeed give you another clue, so to speak. You’re wanting also to express to yourself the love for yourself that you need to, in order to find your voice, so to speak. Your voice is in many ways a gift, because you have a beautiful voice both in spite of your reluctance and because of it.
We’ll explain. Your voice wants to seek voices that will sing along with you. Your wanting to break from individuals isn’t serving you well. You want to chorale yourself into a chorus. We’re using the word chorale, as in C-H-O-R-A-L-E, in order to join your chorus if you can, as your Jethro Tull once sang.[6]
You can think of yourself as a chorus member seeking your chorus. In this, you’ll find that your Sammas self is, indeed, in every way suited to create this chorus. You are a communal individual who has spirited himself away, in every way, because your spirit world wants you to continue to participate, but your community world needs you also. So you can think of yourself as a chorus member, but also a facilitator of your choruses of self, so to speak, because you’ll find that your Tumold self draws individuals to you in a very big way. And you’ll find that when you open up and accept the task of trying only ways that you’ll find providing of fulfillment – ways to create community – you’ll find a great way of spirit.
You have the longing to be with others in endeavors that you’ll find fulfilling, but your shyness, in some ways, disallows you, but there’s no reason to feal shy. Indeed, the best individuals in the world are often very shy, but they surmount their shyness by allowing themselves to think of others, indeed. The way of spirit is, in many ways, the way of service, and this is something that your Roses will indeed take on in your community, because this is a very interesting group. They are very wonderful individuals, but they tend to be extremely selfish, in your terms, in regards to their community. They don’t commune, indeed.
Trust that Rose will allow herself to get in your fray in time, but for now trust that you’re getting an advance preview of things to come, because the way of spirit will include service to others, and you can be the poster child for that. We are joking, of course, because your poster children are sometimes handicapped, but you’re not (Joanne laughs), indeed, so find your Rose’s humor as well, dear Sammas, as our way of suggesting that you’ll do well to become the example to others that you know, deep down, you want to be, only won’t have that because you feal somewhat shy. So don’t.
We trust that you’ll do well to become the shy leader you’ve always needed to be, indeed you can in any way you’d like, for there’s multitudinous ways to be leaders, and you’ll do well to find your desires so as to bring them into the light of day. And we’re suggesting that leadership is in the cards if you wish to go in that direction, indeed. Trust we’ll allow your questions without talking too much in regard to your way of spirit, because we know you have questions. We are appreciative that you wish to hear your Roses out, so trust that you’re a wonderful student, indeed, Sammas. We love you very much. Please continue to ask your questions.
DON: You drifted out there a little bit at the end. Could I ask another question?
ROSE: Yes, please do.
DON: Now you’ve mentioned autotyping, and I tried that once and the results were interesting. I presented it as an interview of myself in the Sethnet Journal, but there are two ends – it’s like I have two ends to a rope and need to tie them together, because often when I’m in the pre-sleep state [inaudible] and sort of drifting off, I find myself reading written material and hearing the words in my head, and I’m wondering if that could be a source of material that can come out in autotyping?
ROSE: That’s exactly right. We will suggest that your continued trying to autotype will yield these works. That’s why we’re suggesting that – we see the works now. We will give you a really great preview, okay? The works realize the way of spirit for others, for you have the same general gifts as your Rose does in your Joanne. We suggest that you’ll see a text for each individual you know, and on that text are suggestions for ways they can be their truest selves in the world.
In this, they would do well to include their ways of spirit as we’re suggesting you bring out in individuals. In this, your readings will allow you to provide them examples of things you can express to them they do in order to assist themselves in finding fulfillment. For example, your Sammas realized that the toymaker wanted to not make doors any more in his way of finding the same texts. To be clear, you will not be realizing exactly the same texts, because you have a different contextual time and space interest, but you’ll find the same general situation, as well as means to accomplish this.
He only needed to realize a resting-in-Rose, in which you’ll find in your pages. The resting-in-Rose is the same as resting-in-your-essence. We call it Rose because you’ll find this to be helpful, in some ways. You can think of your essence, in some respects, as a beautiful, smelly flower that lovingly envelops you in her beautiful petals. So resting-in-Rose is a more provocative way to say resting-in-Sammas. Indeed, resting-in-Rose is also the same as samadhi in your Buddhist realizations of resting-in-Rose, so they had the same practices that you do when you go to sleep. When you are going to sleep, you are finding a beautiful fealing without your thoughts. So when you rest-in-Rose, you can try to emulate the prior-to-sleep state that you do when you fall asleep, then trust that you can emulate this state when you autotype.
In this, you’ll pull open your books so as to read them, but the pages won’t be clear. It’ll be more like you’ll not hear the words, but you’ll know the words instead of hearing them or seeing them. To take your texts is a metaphorical way to get you reading them in spirit, so to speak, so trust that your way is in autotyping, and many other ways of expressions, indeed, in your writing as well. You have a great capacity for channeling, because you’re already working in inspired states. This is just your next step, that’s all, so trust you know how already because your greater self calls you to become it, to say the least, for it, or he, is in every way the most lovingly, providing-for individual who you’ll find most worthy of becoming, indeed. So do so.
We’ll allow your questions again, dear Sammas.
DON: I had a list of questions here, but some of them don’t seem as urgent as they did (Don laughs) now that we’ve been talking. One thing I notice is that I tend to unconsciously sabotage myself in many times over my life so as to not have success. Is there a reason that I do that?
ROSE: Yes, indeed. You can think of sabotage as a wonderful way to not go in certain directions. You don’t need to consider this a bad thing. You only need to allow the contrariness of life to sink in a bit to appreciate the sabotage of self that you’ve realized in ways that will be providing success in other ways. Most individuals feal that there are ways to live that are “picture perfect” and, indeed, this is not the case. The case is that life is very contrary, as well as painful and difficult, to say the least.
To think of life as a “perfect storm” would be a better description, because the storm you allow yourselves is, indeed, the thing – not your sunny skies. So when you so-call sabotage yourselves, it’s typically a means to get yourselves away from your current situation. There’s no reason to believe that the situation was worth staying in – in any sense of the word. You have many opportunities to allow fulfillment, indeed, so why cling to one way or two ways that you found to be treacherous, in some respects, and trust instead in your contrary way of spirit to be telling you that this isn’t your path. Indeed, the contrary self, in every way, will tell you when you’re messing up, but this is a good thing. You can count on it to really give it to you in a big way. You only need to embrace the contrary self as a gift, as well as a friend, for this is essence speaking to you as well.[7]
Essence doesn’t come out of the clouds telling you to begin to cut your stony rocks or slabs into Testaments. No, the essences speak to you in ways that allow you to become better individuals. In this, they will talk to you in ways that are sometimes illuminatingly painful, and indeed, this is the point: to get you differentiating in ways that you don’t yet do. So when you feal that you’re wanting to crawl under your stony rocks of spirit (Joanne chuckles), you’re doing it well, for your wanting to crawl inside and die sometimes is exactly what life is about.
Why wouldn’t you want to embrace that? Indeed, for you have beliefs that say you need to always be perfectly suited to every occasion, and indeed, find only perfection in your ways. [This] isn’t the case because your wanting only your perfection is your way of finding only pain, indeed. So find ways to feal good about your creations, whatever way they turned out, for they’re your creations, they’re your poetic instantiations of your beautiful self in all of its contradictions, as is life, indeed, itself.
So your wanting to avoid pain isn’t the best expression for yourself, for that’s indeed very limiting. So when you embrace the wonderful, painful situations in ways that remind you that essence was always there for you, indeed, finding the worst ways for you, then you can begin to incorporate the faith you need to allow the interesting challenges ahead of you. So do so.
We will allow your questions again, Sammas.
We wanted to tell you that we love you. That was what you missed, so you’ll do well to remember that essence loves you in every way. To take [our] word for it isn’t enough; you also need to feal it. So that’s why we’re suggesting you rest-in-Rose so as to entice yourself towards spirit, for it’s a beautiful thing indeed, and senxual in every way – a combination of both your sensual and your sexual fealings, so do so. We’ll assist in every way.
We’ll allow your questions again, dear Sammas.
DON: [inaudible]
ROSE: (Musically) I can’t hear you.
DON: These instances of sabotage that I spoke of...
ROSE: Yes.
DON: ... are two types. One type is where I can see that it prevented me from going in a direction that could have been unpleasant. And the other type seems to prevent pleasant things, like when I try something new and totally blow it or something comes out of nowhere and shoots it down. That tends to be discouraging.
ROSE: Yes, that’s exactly right. For you’re wanting to realize the way you can be better at allowing, so we’ll take this question, for it’s a very good one. The way you can think of sabotage is in both ways: one way is very healthy, the other one isn’t so much as healthy as it is sabotaging your allowance for fulfillment. So you’re correct that at times you have done this, but don’t focus on your inability to allow. Focus instead on your ability to allow, and this will provide the answer to your question in ways that are only positive, for when you allow, you will find that these issues will go away completely.
We’ll begin, in your terms, with an example of your way of finding sabotage in ways that are unhealthy. Just a moment. (Pause, while Joanne takes a drink of water.)
Consider the way you found the way of getting along with your co-workers. In this, you found that your co-workers wanted you to realize their friendship, but you didn’t want to begin a friendship, because you didn’t want to allow them into your lives. We mean lives, because you have many lives that you live on your own terms, and in this, you didn’t want them to intrude.
You could say this was both unhealthy and healthy because, in some respects, your ways of finding solace in your grief, in some ways, needed the realization of privacy, but in other ways you shut them out when they could have helped you. So, while in some ways this was a very healthy expression, in other ways it wasn’t, so you found that you thought you failed in some respects, but you didn’t because you found that when you thought about it, you didn’t need the solace after all. You could have used the expressions of fun and fellowship, for your wanting solace was remembered when you thought about it later, and then wanted to allow your friendships. You didn’t realize it at the time, but you did later.
In this, you were thinking too much. You thought you failed but you didn’t, because you found that you didn’t need your friends after all, so you didn’t need to kick yourself around so much when you found that you weren’t needing them. So, in this, you would have realized prevention of your own hurt fealings if you’d realized that you could have treanteaed the situation. This is the Rose term for an exercise that we will lovingly suggest you try, dear Sammas, because it allows you to consider many potential ways to respond to any situation. In this, the treantea exercise would have helped you.[8]
You could have said, “Okay, we want to go out with your friends; we don’t want to go out with your friends because we want solitude. We want to go out with your friends because we want friendship; we don’t want to go out with your friends because we won’t find them to be very fun,” indeed. Or, you could have struck on another time, indeed, when you would have said, “In some ways we want the friends, but we don’t want the friends.”
In this, we suggest you could have found some time for your friends, long enough to find they weren’t the things you needed, indeed. That will be an example of how your finding different potentialities would have assisted in your current situation as well, for your black and white thinking about not channeling or channeling is the point. You’ll need to allow the way of spirit in, and you can begin by treanteaing your ways of wanting channeling.
For example: You can say, “We’ll only channel a bit tomorrow,” or “We’ll not channel at all,” or “We’ll channel full time forever”. Do you see? In time you’ll see that you have many potential paths you can take that will allow your best expression. For example, you can say, “We’ll try to channel in the mornings only, and when we fail we’ll continue our day in ways that are happy without fealing like we’ve failed.”
In this, you’ll eventually begin to realize that your wanting only to fail won’t help you, but you’ll find that your habits of truly failing well, indeed, would be the point, because you’ll have developed a habit that you’ll find freeing, in some respects, because you’ll allow the way of spirit to fail right along with you.
In this, you’ll find a way to treantea the channeling phenomenon that is yours to grab, at any time, in ways that you’ll find comfortable. Indeed, this is the point: you’ll want to have fun and the channeling can be that, so trust that you’ll find ways to have fun with it, and your treantea exercises will assist in a very big way. You already do this, indeed, to some degree, but the exercises will really help you and other individuals to see the many wonderful choices you have in spirit, indeed.
So, please allow your questions some more, dear Sammas.
DON: I certainly will be spending some time with the exercises and visiting “The Rose Garden,”[9] which I have not done. You know, I was thinking, probably wrongly now, that what with assimilating Seth’s material, and working with Kris’ material that I really didn’t want to tackle anything additional because there was so much there. I don’t see why I shouldn’t be able to branch out a bit, and I will certainly do that.
Now, a question that I have that’s really been on my mind lately is: I assume that in the various groups – Seth, Kris, Elias, and everybody – we’re assuming that the world is going to change into a more spiritually-oriented type world, which is more in touch with Self, with discovering [inaudible], but in general we’re counting on the fact that the world is going to change for the better. Do you see this to be true?
ROSE: That’s an excellent question, Sammas, because the two ideas are interlocked. We will begin with addressing the unsaid question about your Rose information. The way you can think of Rose is as a very fealing tone, as your way of spirit invokes the fealing – F-E-A-L-I-N-G, meaning real and feel – in ways that you’ll find astonishing perhaps, because your interpretation of assimilating the information is very focused on your interesting focus on interpretations of the mind sort.
The Rose information is very focused on your heart, so you can find that when you feal good, you are incorporating as much information as your Seth material would have you realize, because the understanding intellectually is only part of the deal, so to speak. You need to intellectualize, but you also need to feal, and in this your Roses will assist. We won’t be theorizing very much. We’ll be allowing theoretical questions, but only if they will provide practical realizations of your understanding, for what good is the information if you don’t apply it?
Indeed, in this, and this is why we really wanted to speak to you today – why do what you do in understanding your Seth material if you don’t even apply it in your communities? Indeed, for your individuals want to learn, but they don’t want to serve. Indeed, this is the point of your heart-centered practices that Rose will be providing, because you need to also serve others. This is why you’re so very miserable, collectively. You want a better world, but damned if you’ll lift a finger – we’re not talking to you personally – to help your community.
Why wouldn’t you want to assist in engaging individuals to help in ways that would be truly, profoundly changing of your world? You only need to ask them. They want to assist, but they don’t know how. Indeed, the way you’ll find to help the world is in finding ways to incorporate the information you’ve learned, as well as find ways to bring it into your world. What better way than to, for example, get the books of Seth into your schools and libraries, to get the way of spirit into your children’s hands, indeed, for you’ll find this to be a very world-changing thing, but it’s going to take more than talking about changing your world: it will take changing your world.
So, find ways to embrace this, dear Sammas, because you need to be fully engaged in your community, as do many individuals who you’ll find in your way of spirit. They want to build the toys, not the doors. They want to find ways to thrive in ways that assist others. They have that need. You have the need to help them, so we suggest you do. We will also suggest that you read the sontering practice.[10] That’s all you need to need of Rose. We’ll be there in essence to assist always – that’s the point. So trust you don’t need to read our works, but they’ll be helpful, indeed, so try to but don’t feal pressured to. We’ll assist in your intuition, as well as your intellect, indeed, dear Sammas.
Now, we’ll need to wrap things up because it’s been a very long session, but we’ve enjoyed it very much. So, truly, we wish to allow your question, but we’ll also say that we anticipate what it might be, so go ahead please.
DON: Go ahead with the question?
ROSE: Yes.
DON: Well, which brings me to the rest of my question about this. I want the New World now, okay? I obviously can’t live in the future now but I want to have a part – if I can’t have it now I want to have a part in bringing it about. And this is what has been urgently on my mind and in my heart: I want to see things be better for people, where they have more, and where they can realize that they have more possibilities, more choices, better choices for themselves, for their self-realization. I would like to figure out my part in helping to bring about such a situation.
ROSE: You’ll do well to consider realizing that we’ll continue to request that you work in your community. We will assist, because when you’re aligned with your intentionality, you’ll find magical things will happen, and if they’re not happening, then your contrary self is telling you to do things differently, so we suggest you do so. Do things differently, that’s all you need to do. Instead of wondering about your world and how it will turn out, you can invite the world you want into your lives. So find ways to challenge individuals in ways that they’ll find useful by suggesting, for example, “What the hell are you doing about bringing the New World into your lives? What the hell, indeed, are you doing? Are you talking, or are you acting?”
Insofar as what Rose will be providing, you can count on your Rose’s assistance in your collaborations, because your Joanne wants very much to assist as well. So try reading a bit of your Rose information, and listening to this CD when we provide it, but also act. That’s why we wanted you to find us, in spirit, so thank you, because we want to act through you, us essences. We’re all together in this, in some respects, so when you act in the world, trust that you are acting in spiritual ways, and trust that you have the voice of God in your throat when you do, because that’s exactly how essence speaks – through your actions.
So, trust that you’ll do well to realize that we’re always, in every way, with you in spirit. We’ll not cause you harm in any way. You only need to follow your bliss, indeed, and we’ll help you to do that.
So trust that we’ll find you, in every way, to be a wonderful student of Rose, if you’d like. Then we’ll suggest you also find ways to contact us when you need to, dear Sammas, because we want you to expose yourself to us in a very big way and vice versa. So find us to be a very spuriously humored essence at times, and we’ll have more fun at a later time, we promise. We love you, Rose.
(Rose departs: 2:35 PM.)
(Transcribed by Donald Johnson, December 10, 2007.)
Endnotes
[1] Joanne’s note: For more info, see Intentionality and Families of Consciousness.
[2] Paul’s note: Rose continues to add new concepts and make up new words (neologisms) to help force us out of habitual patterns of perception, language, and belief systems. For more information, see The Rose Glossary.
[3] Joanne’s note: Rose had delivered information about the chakras in my Vespers that morning.
[4] Joanne’s note: For more info, see The Rose Agenda.
[5] Joanne’s note: I think the confusion about Don’s intentionality was a test to see if I was allowing Rose while noticing the obvious inconsistencies. Also, because I was being very careful and, I believe, accurate, I think it was intentional on Rose’s part to illustrate to Don how it really is okay to make mistakes, even while channeling.
[6] Don’s note: This is a reference to Jethro Tull’s “Songs From the Wood” (1977):
Join the chorus if you can:
it’ll make of you an honest man.
[7] Joanne’s note: For more info, see The Beautiful Contrary Self: An Introduction and The Contrary Self: Parts 1-3.
[8] Joanne’s note: For more info, see Treantea Poker Players Practice and Part 2: The Poker Players Float to the Sky.
[9] Joanne’s note: Don referred to my old blog, which is now retired. For more info on Rose, please visit my new website: www.essence-of-rose.com.
[10] Joanne’s note: For more info, see Sontering (Breathe in Your Essence Practice).