Session 253 (Private/Phone)
Saturday, May 31, 2008
Participants: Joanne (Tyl), and Nardine (Daisy).
(Rose arrives: 5:35 PM. Arrival time 25 seconds.)
ROSE: Dear, dear, dear, Nardine, we are weaning “geanius girl” here, for you can say she needs to breathe in everything when seeking to speak for Rose. She realizes that you have questions, so do begin to ask them dear, dear, (Chuckling) dear one. We don’t usually use so many dears, but you would be considered very dear to us. So do take in your Roses, and sonter the Roses in your bunch now, for you have a geanius way of connecting in spirit in spite of the way you connect in other ways. So continue to try to allow Rose in ways that you don’t allow yet, but you will, dear, dear (Smiling heart[1]) dear one.
So, do continue with your questions, dear one. (Humorously) We’ll only say that once or that will take up all the time you have allotted.
NARDINE: (Smiling heart) Mmhm.
ROSE: So do so.
NARDINE: Well, I acknowledge great resonance of heart with our Roses and our Joanne, and I recognize connections above and beyond this space in time without knowing the details of them, and I feel as though I’m home within the heart of you, and Jo, and Paul. I feel great blessings and great love in this moment in time.
To identify a question that I would like to discuss and learn more about, I would love to know more about my sharing with you and Jo. However, to take advantage of this opportunity, I might focus upon my relationship with my parents at this moment in time. And I will acknowledge that for myself, again, at this moment in time, I feel as though my whole lifetime has brought me to this precipice of loving trust, and that I have a situation with my mother, father and twin sister that has been unfolding throughout our lifetimes, and in this moment there’s an opportunity for me to express from my heart, and honor myself and others.
However, my parents are such that their wounded child within doesn’t hear the light of my heart. And I’m wanting to have some guidance and understanding in how I can bring this to them whilst claiming my own sense of self, and love, and truth. So perhaps, if you were able to offer some insight into that aspect of my creating, I would be very appreciative.
ROSE: We are wanting to allow the “weany girl” to relax a bit more.
NARDINE: I support that, for she and me!
ROSE (Smiling heart) Now don’t worry, we don’t want to provide fear…
NARDINE: No, no fear.
ROSE: …in your wanting to discuss the wonderful imagery you have provided yourselves. You have a geanius of way of finding each other in spirit. This is not to say you don’t allow this in the physical world, but you can allow more, in some ways, when you realize that you are one, in many ways.
The weany girl is you in somewhat different ways than you allow for yourself. For example, the weany girl has a way of spirit that is similar, but different to yours. She has a sontering of Rose that you have in ways that may not be quite as obvious, but want to stress to you that you have the same abilities she does.
So continue to allow the energetic banter that you have connected with, in some ways, and allow this to continue – with the way you breathe, the way you speak, the way you sentence yourselves to a life of (Jo laughs) transcribing Rose if you choose. But the exchange is you as well, so when you realize that Rose is talking to you in every way in your transcriptions, the exchange has the most value. Not for you only, but for you in exciting bigger ways.
You’re wanting to be a sort of “heart-interesting” person – meaning interesting yourself in the heart center – is geanius. You can allow this in ways that are healthy, but don’t worry that this is not finding others, because the wonderful chakras so want to be used, dear one, besides your heart, that they will embrace you in ways that you may not be allowing quite as much.
You can allow, for example, the heart to surely take on the mind center of energy, in allowing the always ready mind to soften a bit, in ways that you don’t allow. Now, there’s nothing wrong with your mind center. We are only wanting to express that it can allow the wonderful heart chakra to infuse itself into the mind. So you would, for example, have a heart-filled mind when you want that, and that will allow you a taste, of sorts, of more information that you can allow in.
So when you think of the mind, think of it as a sort of “heart center” that has a certain function that you haven’t realized before. The function is to think in ways that are not exactly your thoughts, so your thoughts would be heartily Rose. For example, they would include the thoughts of us, so you can express to others that you are Rose in thoughts sometimes, as you do allow some degree of an exchange. When you realize this, you’ll find this to be true.
The resonance you feal, in ways you’d consider physical, at times when you transcribe, is you saying to you, that you are Rose, in many ways. Now you are Rose in your own way, but this is not to say that there are not similarities between the way you would filter Rose, and the way your weany girl would sonter Rose. And this is your way of expressing to yourself that you are wanting Rose in your mind, in your body, and in many ways, the heart is doing the work now.
But you don’t need to only use the heart center to take in more Rose. Use all of them, dear one, for that is why we choose to enter through bodily functions. In many ways we have a, sort of, full spectrum affair in mind for you, as well as many individuals who you’d consider wanting Rose, too. In your body you have a geanius way of realizing the greater self, so consider the body as a totally wondrous instrument that the weany girl is allowing to occur, and you can as well do so.
Now, we will also add that you have a way of expressing in many key ways a geanius way of spirit already. Do not take this as a way to tell you that you’re doing anything incorrectly. We’re only suggesting that you have more to you than you have uncovered so far. So allow yourself to try to connect to Rose in your body, and we will express to you that you have a gift of gab as well. You speak well, dear one, and you have a sort of grace that you’ll want to consider expressing more often as well. You have a sort of gift of gab, as well as a giving sort of gift, if this makes sense?
NARDINE: Yes.
ROSE: The gift of having a giving heart is not only for others, but also for you, dear one. You must tell yourself that you need to give to self first, and then others. So when you are wanting to tell your dear parents that they have a geanius woman who is their daughter, that would be best left for you. So don’t worry that they don’t feal you – F-E-A-L you – they do, but you need not concern yourself with their validation that they do. So try to allow yourself the same gifts that you give others too, okay?
NARDINE: Understand.
ROSE: Okay. Now you have other questions, dear, dear, dear one.
NARDINE: Indeed, yes. I’d like to acknowledge that, once again, through the blessing of transcribing and your encouragement for we to identify our intent, and our intent names, my discovery of self has led me to identify my intent name as Heart Whisperer, and I feal that that be a truth of my intent. Do you have a comment to make regarding that?
ROSE: You can trust that the response that your weany girl had to your question was the inside information that you’ll acquire, to answer your question. She had a teary response to your question, so we will allow that to answer the question, dear one, for her heart heard yours. And do say again to yourself that you are your own whisperer, too. And when you allow the whispers to occur in your heart, as well as you have expressed to her, then that will be your answer to any question that you have. So do so, and allow the essence name to inform your every moment if you can.
Sontering Rose is the wonderful information that you’ll be allowing yourself when you, indeed, whisper to the self that is allowing you the very breath in your lungs, the very words that you speak, the very interests that you have. For you have many, and you can express so very clearly when you want to what is in your heart, that you’ll find that when you have a, sort of, spectrum analysis of your chakras, that you’ll find them to be wanting only your whispers as well, dear one.
So continue the excellent school work that we’ll (Jo laughs) be providing you, only it will only be beginning now. You can wait to get more lessons as the time goes by, so you’re an excellent, excellent student. And we’ll say more about the lessons at the time that you allow them in the future. There will be more, but we want to express that you would do well to continue the lessons, as you have many talents waiting to be unfurled. So do so.
And we’ll continue with your questions, dear one.
NARDINE: Thank you, understand. It’s all so exciting (Chuckling with Jo)
ROSE: Yes.
NARDINE: If I may inquire, my husband Peter, he hasn’t been blessed with an essence name. I received one from Kris, and I’m guessing, Rose, when you’re speaking of allowing my essence name to infuse my awareness, moment to moment, that you’re aware that my essence name as given by Kris is Herakleides. I’m wondering whether that is the essence that you’re referring to, and yes, at the same time recognizing that essence self is nameless in one sense, and yet, to give an identification, Herakleides was offered.
May I inquire whether that essence is the one that you are perceiving as resonating as my higher self to listen to? Or are you perhaps seeing or perceiving another essence aspect of myself?
ROSE: (Chuckles) We are, and you’ll do well to have a sort of self that, in many ways, we see that Elias may not see similarly[2], and that is that you need a girlie name for an essence…
NARDINE: I felt that. (Laughing)
ROSE: …as you have a geanius way of spirit that is decidedly feminine in our book. So you can think of yourself as Daisy.
NARDINE: Daisy, gorgeous.
ROSE: You’re wanting to say also that daisies, as well as roses, make a beautiful bouquet, indeed. So continue to allow yourself to think of yourself as a beautiful, gorgeous flower in our garden. So do so.
And we’ll say more about Peter when he allows us to have a word with him directly. We will say that he wants to speak to Rose, but has not allowed himself to do so in your physical sense, so he is wanting to say a few words to us, and we will respond when he is ready to do so. So you can tell him that we want to talk to him, dear one. (Chuckles)
NARDINE: Wonderful.
ROSE: Sontering him is a real treat. He is a very old soul, in some respects, as well as a friend of ours, in many ways. He’s a good one to say a prayer every now and then. He does that, but he did say many prayers in another focus that you share. He was a minister that was allowed to have affairs with his congregants. You were one, and you did allow this in many ways, because you had a sort of prostitution ring going on. So you allowed him many favors, in a sense, for your soul-saving (Smiling heart) that he provided you. And so you have a geanius way of sending people what they need in many ways, and you did this in that focus as well. So allow yourself to chide him a bit, for his tastes were varied, and you had to say many things to your girls to help them appreciate that they needed to partake of many different talents in order to please him.
So allow him to (Smiling heart) be a good one to ask you for things in this focus, dear one, (Jo laughs) for he will do so, if you let him, and you’ll do well to allow him to beautifully provide you a sort of longing, sexually, that you haven’t provided yourself yet. So trust him to be a good partner for you, in many ways, that you may not be allowing to occur at this point. We are suggesting some additional sexual practices. If you wean yourself of your desire to only live in your heart, you can allow some interesting things to occur sexually in your tantric sort of realizations. So trust we are half-kidding when we say that he has a favorite position to take on, if you let him. But you’d do well to allow some experiments. If you’d allow them you may find some interesting physical openings of spirit as well. So continue to explore the wonderful essence exchanges that occur in your many chakras. That’s all we’ll say about that.
Now you also have a geanius way of finding each other in spirit in many focuses including the Crusades. You were Templar Knights together. You had a sort of following, in your terms. When you had sorties, you had ways of finding portals to things that would be considered truly looting experiences. You had a sortie that found loot often, and you’d (Chuckling) rob people of their gold at times. You were not always the wonderful person that you are now, dear one. So allow this to sink in, and when you share a good laugh with your dear one, Peter, remember how you have a sort of fine sense of self, that you in your bigger self-sense, do not. And you’ll do well to remember this when you are allowing the sorties to find you now.
Remember that they are wanting you to realize you are geanius in spirit, and not everyone has the same information you have about the self you are. So realize that when you allow others to have their way with you, and you don’t feal good about the individuals who have a, sort of, finer sense of meaning that is lower in a sense than you, have heart about that as well. And realize that you too, are not so informed in many ways, when you consider that you are the templar knights who were not very informed individuals, too. So remembering this is going to allow you to realize the vastness, so wanting to help you remember.
So when you have a sortie of individuals called your parents, wanting to be a good sortie who steals your heart, at times, remember that they have a (Smiling heart) sortie of their own who wants to allow them to steal from them, too. They have a (Smiling heart) sortie of spirit too, and they have a sort of spiritual world information, that you don’t, too, but you have more information than they do now. So just allow them their ignorance, and allow yourself to not get stressed about that, because you have more, in some ways, than they do.
This is not to say they are ignorant in every way, and you know we are not making false accusations here, but they do want to be better, but they don’t really need to be, in many ways. You can allow them the same berth that they allowed you in the other focus. So you’re correct, if you’ve guessed that you had the stealing occur on them, in that focus. And you’ll want to allow them a wider berth perhaps, but that’s why you allow the information you do, to tell you things about self that you’ll otherwise overlook. So use the parents to beautifully remind yourself that you’re huge, in self that is, and you’ll find peace in those ideas. So do so.
You have other questions, dear one.
NARDINE: Yes, yes. I’m presently, in my involvement through NewWorldView and with Jo and Paul and Rose – yourself – and with Kris and the CMI course that we’re going through, I’m recognizing that I have potentials of value fulfillment that are unfolding, and I’m learning and growing and healing and identifying where my essence self can be expressed in my heart, my world.
And I will also acknowledge I greatly resonate with the awareness that you’ve expressed about my senxuality. I recognize in the past, I had a separateness from my body, and I recognize for my wholeness of self, the integration of my body bliss is part of the joy that I am yet to create. So what you’ve expressed of Pete’s and my sharing only adds (Smiling heart) joy and enlightenment to my awareness, and I’m sure will bring great bliss to his awareness, (Jo chuckles) to identify some of these creations from other spaces, that contribute to my present now.
But I’m learning how to express myself in my world, bringing my gifts, my light, and I’m wondering if there were specifically – because you are a guide who encourages practices or Vespers, I have no ritual of practice, and nor do you suggest a doctrine that disallows freedom of expression. But at the same time I’m wondering if there was a practice that you considered would be something that would do me well to integrate into my days that I’m not presently doing?
ROSE: That is another excellent question, dear one. For your wanting to allow Vespers is what we want everyone to do.[3] Very dearly, we want this to occur. So allow us to say a few words about this now. The Vespers are a sort of connection that you have with spirit that is impossible to undersell, because the Vespers, which we suggest take place in the mornings – we are aware these are frequently called Matins in the nun world, but we’ll say again, that we chose the word Vespers to inform the world in ways that [you] can resonate with. So Vespers are the word we’ll use. Vespers have a sort of sense of their own. They are your way of saying to spirit what you want to say, and spirit saying to you what they want to say.
Spirit has ways, always, to share information in every way, you could say. But Vespers are so wanting you to do, that they will seize you by the pajamas to tell you what you need to know, and that’s why we want to stress this so dearly to you. You have a geanius way of spirit in every moment, by the way, and Vespers have a means to tell you more about the way of spirit that you have every day. So they include things like: What do you want to do today? What do you want to do tomorrow? What do you want to do in every way? So Vespers strive to step you on your way of spirit in ways that will be considered truly astounding.
When you trust yourselves to do Vespers every day, you have ways of finding things out that you’ll not find any other way, even in speaking with Rose. For, realize that Rose is here to help you connect with your own essence, not Rose. So Rose is here to assuredly put you on your path to finding the bliss you were meant to have in life. And so, that’s why we urge you so strongly to do your Vespers. They are so integral to who you are that they would be remiss in not being allowed into your world. Indeed, we are speaking of them as a totally separate person, in a sense, and that’s why they’re so powerful. They are, in many ways, your spirit calling to you every day, and when you ignore the call, you ignore the call of your lives. So doing Vespers is what we will say is the most important practice you can interest yourselves in. So do so.
And we’ll also say that yours are especially important, for you have a sort of sense of this already, and you’ll want to explore ways to do yours. Now everyone’s Vespers will be a bit different, as you can imagine they would be. This is your spirit calling to you, not anyone else’s. So allow this to occur, and you’ll do well to allow us into your days in a big way. Now dear one, your Vespers will be best served with eggs now, won’t they? (Nardine and Jo laugh together) So trust that…
NARDINE: Do tell! (Laughing)
ROSE: …we chose that gift for you[4], and we’ll say that the egg is a very big symbol for us. You’ll find many resources that we’ll give you in the years to come around eggs. So tune in, (Smiling heart) and we’ll say more about them at another time, for eggs are truly the gifts of the gods, in every way. So tell yourselves to eat more eggs. (Smiling hearts, together) They’re good for you as well.
So to continue to trust the Vespers you have in store for you, dear one. Try to imagine that you’re on a ship, and you’re wanting to try to find out where you are, adrift in the seas you are. And when you have a sort of sense of that, then what do you do? You row to further yourself to the shore of your choosing. What will that be? What is in store on that shore?
So when you find out the direction you want to go in, then you have the time set aside to do that. For exactly what Vespers are, are your way of spirit, in exchanges with spirit. And when you begin the Vespers, you’ll find that way first, then you’ll row to shore, so to speak. Then you’ll be on your shores in ways that you’ll find beautiful as well as blissful.
So when you begin your Vespers, at first you’ll get a sort of finalizing of your issues. The Vespers will help you work through your issues that may be lingering, in a sense. Then they will turn to your deepest fears, and illuminate them in many ways. Then they will find you wanting to know what you’ll get from life. And in some ways, you may not quite know this yet, although you may, but the Vespers will confirm them or deny them, and give you better ones to strive for. Then the Vespers will help you achieve what you want to achieve every day, no matter what that is.
The Vespers will help you gain many things. So for example, the way of spirit for some is to allow a sort of finality in getting through their days without stress. You can think of this sort of finality as a sort of finality of spirit that would be allowed, in some ways, into your world that is not yet. So for example, the way you work in the world is how you may want to work in the world, but perhaps you don’t speak up in ways that would be healthier for you and the world.
Or maybe you have a sort of fear of something. Perhaps the Vespers can help you through these things, so that you don’t need to change roles, in a sense, but you can serve others in better ways. And you can blissfully heal the self you are, in many ways, or you can find ways to achieve in ways that you haven’t thought of yet. So Vespers are your way of talking to spirit, and by doing so, you can find ways to allow more bliss into your lives, no matter if the Vespers change your lives dramatically or not.
So Vespers are an excellent way to solve many issues that you have, and also solve your challenges in the world, and these things are not discreet by a long shot, dear one. So allow Vespers into your hearts so as to allow your best selves to thrive in the world. And you can trust that we’ll want to get this out to your many students soon, so if you decide to transcribe this, Daisy, you can expect we’ll subscribe to it in a big way. (Chuckling) So do so.
And we’ll continue to express to you that your wanting to do your Vespers is going to be a good service to others, because you can share what you learn on your blog, or your discussion forum – whatever you wish – and allow the many individuals seeking ways to be allowing more essence into their lives to be learning from you, in many ways. So do so, and we’ll get off our soapbox for now. Do continue…
NARDINE: I love your soapbox. (Laughing with Rose) Wonderful!
ROSE: We love yours too, Daisy. (Chuckling together)
NARDINE: I love Daisy! (Laughing) Cute, cute. May I inquire, if you’d care to share, information or just letting me know of perhaps a life or space that Jo and I share, or Jo, I and Paul share?
ROSE: Yes. (Pause) You have a focus as sorts from (Smiling heart)…
JOANNE: Hmm, I need to go a little deeper.
ROSE: You have a sort of focus that we’ll find unusual to us, even. Your focuses would be considered funny to anyone who is wanting to have a good sense of humor about hell. The hell you chose to engage in your focus was a sort of “finding of heaven in hell,” if you can imagine this. Your hell was a concentration camp in L-Y-M-P-O-L – that’s correct. The concentration camp was a big sort of hell, and you were together in ways that were confined. You were women in Dachau as well, so trust that Dachau will be the spelling, but Lympol was a geanius way of saying a dimensional shift sontered you as well.
You had a sort of hell on earth in your camp, and Lympol was a sort of matter of time –dimensionally – you deemed to be heaven. Your Lympol, in some ways, was fictitious. So you dreamed of this place together. When you dreamed, you were there in many ways, and you survived in ways that were wanting in spirit only. You were wanting to go there in your dreams. You were not wanting to go there in your physical realm, but that was your choice of experience together.
You had a sisterhood, but you were not sisters, and you did survive the camp to go on and live in a center of survivors who did allow some years afterwards, but not many. You had recovered when you died, but there were many wounds to be assuaged by your heart chakra. And that’s why you have a sort of heart sense, with each other. You had this then, and you have this now. You had a means to heal yourselves using your heart center. So when you realize the connections you will have more sense than you do now. So continue to realize your gifts so as to allow your very dearest friends to be in your hearts, always. Sonter each other in ways that you have not yet, and you’ll have whole worlds open up for you.
So continue with your questions, dear one.
NARDINE: Beautiful, magic. And with Paul? Paul and I share a focus, space somewhere?
ROSE: Yes, the same focus is shared by dear Caroll, as well. Your other focuses together with Caroll are as (11 second pause) gypsies. Sonter that focus for more information, for you do have also, a sense of this and you’ll do well to continue to explore this on your own.
And we’ll say also, that you’ll want to explore another focus with your “weany boy.” You have a focus that is sometimes harried, as former (Pause, smiling heart) gymps – G-Y-M-P-S, meaning gymnasts who were crippled. We’re suggesting you had a sort of focus that was exploring the Zuli alignment that was a circus act of sort of (Smiling heart) gympy gymnasts. We’re testing you dear one! (Chuckling)
Don’t worry, we are not wanting to share only the best information. We want you to explore for yourself, so don’t take us too literally, and we’ll say more about this at another time. But your Carroll was a (Chuckling) gymp – G-Y-M-P – in a focus that was, in many ways, challenging to him. And you’ll want explore this in many ways, because you were, in some ways, his benefactor, and you’ll find this to be a funny one, indeed. So continue to explore.
But don’t really take on too much of the focus information, because that’s why we test you. The focus information is healthy to explore to a point, then it becomes more trouble than its worth. You have a sense of the focus we told you about earlier, and how this is wanting to surely buoy your effectiveness now. So don’t worry about other focuses other than these for now, until you explore the ones we gave you, because you don’t want to overburden yourself with focus information.
Now we are testing you, maybe, so learn to take on Rose in ways that you don’t now, and don’t worry that you’ll hurt our feelings, or anything that would be considered a fear by you, but take on Rose in ways that will help you learn to beautifully engage spirit in ways that you’re allowing only in small bites now. Okay?
NARDINE: Mmhm.
ROSE: Take on Rose, and we’ll take on your Daisy’s as well, dear one. And we’ll say that it’s almost time to end today’s session, and we’ll answer another question, if you’d like.
NARDINE: Thank you, no, another one doesn’t come to mind. I just will acknowledge, that yes, the other focal sharings that we have, the awareness of them, is simply to add unto my wholeness of experience, and joy in this life. And I do not inquire to turn it into, or create an attachment to another life. I simply inquire to integrate more wholeness, love, blessing and appreciation of the connections I have in this life.
ROSE: You are exactly right. And we’ll say also, that you are being tested at times by Rose, for you have geanius gifts in spirit, and you have spirit in you, always. You are aware that we are you. You are aware that we are wanting you to succeed in ways that will serve as models for others – you and the weany boy, and the weany girl. You are in this in ways that are wonderfully blessed, as you say. So continue to sonter the wonder that you’ve created on this earth now, as you have created, in many ways, even in the darkest times you can imagine. You don’t need to do that again, and you’ll want to realize you have the power to realize whatever you want in this world today. So continue to realize that your Roses are here for you always, and we’ll allow you to express to Rose how you’re feeling now, for we know you have some things to say now. Do so.
NARDINE: I feel a bouquet of love within my heart for all of us. (Smiling heart)
ROSE: (Chuckling) That’s a beautiful way to say that we have done a good job in answering your beautiful questions. So continue, dear Daisy, to provide the best self to yourself that you can. We really love you, truly and dearly. You are a geanius friend of ours, and we’ll want to say this again and again. So do take some time to speak to us regularly. We want to do so as well. Okay?
NARDINE: Wonderful!
ROSE: Wonderful! Do, dear one, take heed to take care of your health. You don’t eat right all the time. We want you to do so, and we’ll say, take some eggs out of your fridge and allow yourself a good soft-boiled one from time to time. And think of us in spirit being a beautiful provider of nourishment, as well as provisions of possibilities. So do so.
We love you very much, dear one, dear Daisy. Take care. Rose.
NARDINE: Bless you Rose. Thank you!
(Rose departs: 6:46 PM.)
(Transcribed by Nardine Neilson, June 11, 2008.)
Endnotes
[1] Nardine’s note: Smiling heart - not quite a chuckle, more a heart-filled smile.
[2] Joanne’s note: Why Rose mentions Elias rather than Kris here is a mystery to me. Perhaps I got in the way, or maybe Rose just slipped up? This is why Rose insists that we learn to be discerning of her words, and also why she makes no claim at being an infallible source.
Rose’s note: That’s exactly what happened. We essences sometimes do slip up, and we will say also that she did get in the way!
[3] Joanne’s note: Vespers have been a critical part of my spiritual life and personal development. I began doing them soon Rose after started coming through (initially on a Ouija board in April, 2007) when I began autotyping pages every morning. Some of my Vespers have become part of the generally available Rose information, but most were written only for me, exactly the way Rose describes them. I highly recommend them, and can’t say enough how valuable they’ve been for me. Apparently Rose can’t either.
[4] Joanne’s note: Before our May 2008 trip to Las Vegas, Nardine wished us well and “if you feel a little nudge in your heart to have a poached egg, it could be me!” I did a little shopping at a Gourmet show at the Sands Convention Center, and had a strong impression to buy Nardine a unique ceramic soft-boiled egg cup that had painted on it a sunny face, an egg, and a chicken, with a cloth hat on top. It reminded me of Nardine’s sunny disposition and, of course, the chicken represented Rose.