“Extra, Extra: Rose Endorses Obama!”

“The Fear of Aging and Death”

“Things Go Better With the Way of Spirit”

“The Law of Non-Attraction”

“Connect With Your Intentionality”

Session 283 (Group/Dinner & A Dead Gal)

Saturday, August 30, 2008

Participants: Joanne (Tyl), Paul (Caroll), Jim, George, Sarah, Ursula, Caryn, Tom, Mary, Catherine, Christoph, Eduardo, Nardine (Daisy), and Rumi the cat.

(Paul’s note: Phone participants included Mary in California, Eduardo in Colorado, Catherine in Tennessee, Christoph in Vienna, and Nardine in Heathcote Vic, Australia.)

(Session begins: 4:36 PM. JoRose arrives greeting all in Castaic, hello’s to phone folk, acknowledging everyone, and the beautiful roses that Tom brought.)

JOANNE: You know it’s funny, because all these different channelers have different ways of getting into their character, shall we say (Humorously), and I liked what Esther Hicks did when we saw her do Abraham a couple of weeks ago, she said “Hello, Goodbye!”

NARDINE: Goodbye! (Laughing with Jo and Paul) She’s gorgeous!

JOANNE: Mmhm, she is. She’s my hero. (Rests-in-Rose. Arrival time 17 seconds.)

ROSE: We are awaiting your questions, dear ones. Tonight we’ll allow any really geanius[1] question you’d like to ask us Roses, dear ones.

So begin by first providing yourselves a big breath of us Roses. Then allow your beautiful selves to shine through the very things you have in mind, so as to truly portray the deepest inquisitions you possibly can, dear ones. Go ahead now, begin!

TOM: I have a question. What influence could the upcoming national elections have on the shift, or conversely, what influences would the results of the elections have upon the shift?

ROSE: You’re collecting the data on your own tonight, but indeed, there are many individuals wondering this, in every way, not just the ones who you would consider to be familiar, in some ways, with the shift in consciousness that Elias, as well as others have expressed.[2]

To say the least, many individuals wonder this tonight as well, even those who don’t realize necessarily an understanding of the shift as we have described it, and as Elias has described it, and indeed, as many intities (Jo chuckles) have described it. We’re making up another word, dear one. (Humorously) The word is intity, as in entity like Seth or Elias, but who is an individual, in some ways.

So we’ll continue to address your geanius question. The shift is, in every way, in realization tonight. In some ways, it has taken off the shackles [that] have held you captive in your realizations of probabilities. So to say that in your terms that is realized is, in some ways, an understatement because you all have some sense that the shift is on, in many ways. So trust that it is, and allow it to realize itself in your days no matter what the outcome of the election is.

Sometimes the things that need to occur have ways of doing so in spite of the way things go in “real time,” in a sense. There is a sense that some things will change greatly if Barack Obama, for example, will take the (Chuckles) really understated role of President, but in some ways it won’t.

In some ways, there will be changes that occur no matter who takes office. Contrary to your expectations perhaps, sometimes there isn’t really, indeed, any [indication] that there needs to be any change in Presidents, in some ways. There may be some differences but, in some ways, there are not many differences in Presidents.

Now we’ll say that Barack has many differences than George Bush. But you don’t need to expect that many changes will occur – in spite of him, they will. So you could say that there will be not many differences between the two presidential offices, in some ways, but in other ways there will be.

Now we’ll back up a bit to explain a bit more about individual provisions of offices, because they are different in many ways, also. They will occur in ways that are different, but you can also say that they have no more differences than you would allow anyway.

You’re creating the shift. You’re allowing the things to occur that need to occur. The things that will occur, in many ways, are in place today. In some ways they are trying to take hold – they will in one way or another, you could say. That is to say that they are in place, so don’t wrong yourselves into believing that there must be one perfect President, there doesn’t.

There needs to be only contrary Presidents to take on the changes that need to occur in the world. Sometimes contrariness goes a much farther way than perfection. So taking on your bullies in other countries, taking on your bullies in the (Chuckles) State Department, taking on your bullies in your world, in many ways, is what you’re wanting to do, and your President [will] do that, only in different ways.

That will be our standard expression, maybe, because sometimes you need to enforce the way of spirit in you first, then in your world. Now you can say also, that who has the better way of spirit between the two Presidential candidates?

Tom, who do you think we’ll say has the best way of spirit between the two?

TOM: I would think Mr. Obama.

ROSE: That’s exactly correct. The way of spirit is strong in that one, indeed. You can say that the way of spirit is, indeed, strong in Mr. McCain as well, but that is sometimes subtly provided for, [and] not allowed all the time. In his way of spirit he wants to wrong others into expressions that we think are not exactly the right ones. He does hold some things dear that may not be, ontologically speaking. The things that he holds dear are dear, but perhaps not in the same sense that we think of them.

For example, he wants to portray things in ways that are allowing others to sense that Obama is incorrect when, indeed, he is not incorrect. He does want to express that Barack has less experience, for example. He wants to assert that he has more experience, in some ways, that he is the best candidate. But, in many ways, he understands this is allowing only controversy and not solutions to real problems. This is not a very mature way to deal in the world that is in sometimes need of blocking the intentions of individuals in order to allow the best solutions to occur. A much more mature approach is to block those intentions that are truly misguided, not the intentions of those with solutions that work.[3]

Sometimes he is very geanius, but the thing is that he does fear that he won’t get elected. The fear has only the worst consequences. To say that another way, the [party] that he belongs to – the Republicans – [has] a sense of fear that is very great. The fear is great because the fear is only wanting to express itself in ways that would be healthy, but it’s not allowed to.

So there is much fear in your ranks of your Republicans, as well as fear in your ranks of Presidential allowances of communications that rub only the wrong way to those that want only solutions, including Barack Obama.

We’ll say that he has the style that you can consider “truthy,” as well as wanting only the best for individuals. He is the “real deal.” He will get our Rose (Smiling heart) seal of approval tonight, indeed, (Group chuckles) for he has more to him that has to be expr3essed to you – your world, that is – that is truly realizing of spiritual ways and means.

This is not to say that your shift is in any way compromised if McCain takes office. So don’t wrong yourselves into believing that there’s only wonderful oneness in ways to vote. There are not. There are many ways to shift your planet, and either choice will do so in different ways. Okay?

TOM: Thank you. You’ve answered my follow-up question without me asking, so thank you.

GEORGE: She’s endorsing Obama.

ROSE: That’s why we’re Rose, dear ones, (Group chuckles) indeed. We’ll say also that Obama has approved this message, indeed. (Much laughter) We know him very well, indeed.

So do continue to allow yourselves the beautiful questions this evening, dear ones.

GEORGE: With everyone being so shy, I have a question. (Chuckles) I’ll be a little bit more selfish, because this will have to do with about me right, (Affectionately) screw the world! (Group chuckles)

I would need your help with one of the focuses of my essence, I can’t figure out what it is. Actually this will probably be a two part question – it kind of appears strangely, because always his skin is kind of like goldish-bronze or bronze-goldish, and everything around it, it’s like an aura of goldish kind of thing. Does that have anything to do with the Roman Empire, somehow in that timeframe?

ROSE: You’re picking up on a focus who has Roman roots, in a sense, that has a Roman style about them, but is not Roman. It’s…

GEORGE: (Humorously) The Village People?

ROSE: …Greek in some ways, but also Roman in some ways – a Greco-Roman focus – having the sense of duty in your providing of contrary provisions of gold dust to others. The gold dust is mined in canyons in Greece – that has more to that than we can tell you now. We suggest you explore that focus, remembering how you held the dust in your hands, then allowed it to blow free sometimes.

GEORGE: Okay. And the follow up: Rose, I don’t think Scruffy is really that scruffy though, and I think that Tahiti Rose – she’s kind of blondish with a long pony tail, and Diablo would probably be a little bit of a stocky guy in the same scene?

ROSE: You’re correct that Diablo was, in some ways, connected to Tahiti Rose, but Tahiti Rose has not allowed her hair to be blonde.

GEORGE: I mean a darkish, not blonde, like a dark kind of – I call it blonde – but like a dark, I don’t know what to call it.

SARAH: Dad?

PAUL: Light brown?

GEORGE: Like a very dirty filthy blonde (Humorously) I would say. (Laughing with others)

ROSE: That’s right, because Rose has sometimes-dirty ways, as well, dear one. The hair wouldn’t be hair that would be treated in ways that blonde would be for a Tahitian woman – she is Tahitian by birth.

To say that you had Diablo in your focus, in some ways, is incorrect. It has to do with a focus of expression that has to do with Tahiti Rose, but is not in the same timeframe as Tahiti Rose. So you’re correct to associate them that way, but they did not coexist in the same timeframe.

GEORGE: Okay.

ROSE: So continue to explore the wonderful ways you are of connecting with other focuses. And we’ll say more about Diablo when you feal[4] like bringing him into the conversation again, dear one. Do so.

GEORGE: Okay, so….

ROSE: You can allow your question.

GEORGE: Well, there’s people on the phone, it would be nice for them to speak, too.

ROSE: We’ll allow you one more question this evening, dear one, okay.

GEORGE: Right now I don’t have one. (Laughing)

ROSE: Okay, we will take that on faith that you will have one later.

GEORGE: I’m too [inaudible] myself right now.

ROSE: Okay, now we’ll allow your questions tonight on the phone. Do you have any questions, dear ones, this evening?

CATHERINE: Hi, Rose, this is Catherine.

ROSE: Hi, Catherine!

CATHERINE: How are you?

ROSE: We are always wonderful, dear one. Indeed, you are also. You don’t always realize that all the time, that’s all, indeed. So go ahead with your question, dear one.

CATHERINE: Well, remember two weeks ago I asked you about those dead squirrels in my yard, and you had told me that they were a message from ghosts who wanted my attention, and not to fear the ghosts?[5]

ROSE: That’s correct, did you have any…?

CATHERINE: So after you told me that, I felt that I should try to figure out more about that on my own. So I spent probably the greater part of the two weeks being scared that a ghost was going to appear at my house. (Empathic laughter from group)

Then, this morning I had done an induction with some friends, and so I was very relaxed – in this nice quiet, deep place – and I thought, well I’ll try to do some automatic writing, like automatic typing. I had tried to do that once before, but I didn’t have anything happen.

And so I was sitting there and I felt these phrases coming into my mind, and I just started typing them. And I didn’t know if it was real – like if that’s really the ghosts communicating with me. So one of the phrases was, “Ask Rose, and she’ll speak to you for us.”

ROSE: Indeed. So why don’t we do that now. Okay?

CATHERINE: Okay.

ROSE: Okay, we’ll allow your ghosts to come through. But to say that the ghosts are not you, is incorrect. To say that the ghosts are Rose is somewhat true, but the ghosts, in your terms, are you, dear one.

CATHERINE: They told me that in the typing, they said “We are you, but more.”

ROSE: Indeed. So try to allow ghosts into your home, as well as into your heart. For they are you in every way, as well as Rose, as well as your essence. So we’ll explain a bit more before allowing them to speak. Okay?

CATHERINE: Okay.

ROSE: Now, you have a sense that you have Rose on your side, correct?

CATHERINE: Yes.

ROSE: You have a sense that you have essence on your side, also. Correct?

CATHERINE: Yes.

ROSE: Your essence – Catherine – is you, so you don’t need to ever fear essence. Okay? Ever, ever, ever. Okay?

CATHERINE: Okay.

ROSE: So don’t wrong yourself into believing sometimes that ghosts are scary. You have more to you than you can allow into your understanding about the world, and how things go sometimes. So you don’t need to wrong yourself into being scared sometimes. Okay?

That’s only because you fear parts of yourself that you don’t yet allow, that’s all. So don’t wrong yourself into thinking that you’re wrong in being scared. Okay?

CATHERINE: Okay.

ROSE: You can trust that Rose has scared Joanne here a lot. Okay? (Laughing with others) Because she didn’t know what was happening when she began to engage us either. Okay?

CATHERINE: Okay.

ROSE: So don’t be scared, and don’t fear being scared, and we’ll also say that you have a sense that we are Rose in you, also. So you are Rose also. You have Rose in you also. You don’t need to fear that you have more to that in store than Rose.

So would we ever hurt you?

CATHERINE: No.

ROSE: No, indeed. So don’t wrong yourself into being afraid. Only trust that Rose is always there to assist. Okay? Always, always, always.

CATHERINE: Okay.

ROSE: Okay. Now to say that another way, we’ll allow your ghosts to speak to you now. Okay, dear one?

CATHERINE: Okay.

ROSE: Okay. We’re your ghosts, Catherine. You know us very well. We have ways of getting your attention. You know we do things that you don’t like sometimes. You know we do things that you don’t want sometimes – like allowing squirrels to die in ways that are fealing not so safe.

You held a fascination for the ghosts in your world, but did not want to upset yourself by allowing them in, and your squirrels helped you do that. So why not consider that even your beautiful squirrels want to speak to you, dear Catherine, as we do want to speak to you? You know we do that sometimes – we talk to you in ways that have some gravity at times. The gravity comes from not wanting to intrude on you, but we are always there in spirit, you might say.

You have a sense that we’re there when you want to allow yourself to be in your world in ways that you sometimes don’t allow. For example, you have a sense that we’re there in your world when you bathe. When you fear us, we only help you more, in some ways. When you fear us, you want to exclaim that you don’t want us, but you don’t understand that we only want to support you.

So don’t fear us. We’re only wanting to help you. Now we can do that in your bathwater – when you bathe, for example. Don’t think in terms of scary movies, think of us as bathwater, always, that helps you learn to bathe in spirit. You are bathing in spirit when you bathe yourself in us.

So when you realize that we’re only here to support you, you will have more of a sense that we’re only helping you, always. That’s right, always. For we are friends you have known in every lifetime you ever lived. In some ways, you never leave the individuals you love, Catherine.

So why not allow us in – the individuals you have loved in so many ways, in so many lifetimes – to help you to always love yourself, as well as love your life, as well as love your very home that you occupy. So we want only to tell you that we’re here for you, and we’ll allow your questions if you like now. Okay?

CATHERINE: Okay, so when I was doing the typing and I heard the phrases, was that you speaking to me?

ROSE: That was you speaking to you, and we’ll allow you to realize that you are Rose, also. You’re wanting Rose to tell you Rose was speaking with you, but your essence is Rose, also. So you can think of the voice as your essence talking to you, but if it helps to think of this for now as Rose, do so.

So you’re getting the impression that Rose is coming through, and you’re correct, but also, you’re wanting to tell yourself the things you’re doing. So you’re correct, also, that you are speaking to you. Okay, go ahead, dear one.

CATHERINE: Okay. So I should just think of it as Rose, or is there another name for you?

ROSE: Whatever you have to tell yourself can be told by Rose. We’re doing this now, as we speak. Right? You’re talking to your essence now. You’re talking to your greater self now. You’re only wanting Rose to say the things your essence wants to tell you, so you’re wanting Rose to come through your autowriting is correct. In the same sense, the autotyping is happening because you’re wanting to speak to your essence, also.

This is subtle, but it’s very important because you don’t have any less improbable ways than your Joanne does. You have the same talents, as well as abilities that Joanne does. You all do, in some ways, differently than Joanne does, but we want to allow your remembrance of Self, that’s the main thing that Rose is here to do. You’re allowing Self to speak to you directly, that’s why you’re wanting Rose to tell you that now. Okay?

So consider that the ghosts, as well as the autotyping, is all you and always you, indeed. So do so, dear Catherine.

Do you have any questions? We know we may have confused you a bit, but try to let this settle into your thoughts a bit more, and we’ll allow your questions when you choose to have them, dear one.

CATHERINE: Okay, thank you.

ROSE: You’re very welcome. Consider that you have more to say to us in the future, dear Catherine. You’re doing an excellent, wonderful way of spirit for yourself. Keep up the good work, indeed, dear one.

CATHERINE: Thank you.

ROSE: You’re doing an excellent job, indeed. Thank you.

PAUL: This is Paul. I just want to ask a follow up question there because I am thoroughly confused, (Humorously) as usual. So my question is, are you telling Catherine that her essence is fragmented of Rose, or of essences that are fragmented of Rose?

 In a way similar that maybe some of us can conceptualize better – in the Oversoul Seven books the relationship between Cyprus and Seven[6] is a big difference in their, lets just say their width and wideness of awareness.

So my question is, just to try and rephrase that, are you suggesting that when you say you’re speaking through Rose – Rose is speaking through you, and you’re speaking through you, and your essence is speaking through you – there’s a whole ontological spectrum there that you’re covering? Is that correct?

ROSE: You’re correct, yes.

PAUL: And so then the other question: is Catherine’s essence fragmented of Rose, or of essences fragmented of Rose?

ROSE: Not really, but sometimes the exchanges do have some fragmentation occurring in ways that you’d consider ontologically in ways that Elias has allowed you to understand.[7] There’s no reason to have the ontologically indicative interpretation that you have, but the way you can think of this is that Rose fragments all individuals, as well as essences in some ways.

So you’re correct to ask the question, but we don’t want to get too much into the types of indications that Elias has provided you in your ontological system for essences. So don’t wrong yourself into asking the question, only your Roses have the real scoop, in some ways, because you’re correct to ask Rose – she’s Rose, so she is the expert that you’re correct to ask. But the thing to realize is that it all boils down to your allowance of Self, and it doesn’t really matter, in some ways, what you’re doing in essence to get that.

To say that fragmentation is happening isn’t really important to you at times, but to say that this isn’t important isn’t what we’re saying either. The fragmentation is occurring always, because you’re allowing Rose into your sphere, in a sense. But to say that Rose isn’t hearing you because she’s fragmented a world away from your essence isn’t correct either.

So the allowance of fragmentation is happening, but that’s not really, truly internally important, in some ways, because you’re only needing to connect with essence, that’s all you need to do – not understand what essence has to do with what part of your experience, that’s not what we teach.

So you’re correct to ask the question, but to say that you’re not wanting to allow essence because you don’t understand the ontology isn’t what we’re after here either. Okay?

PAUL: Mmhm.

ROSE: Okay. So do you have any other questions, dear one?

PAUL: No. Fragmentation is a mysterious topic, very esoteric and metaphysical anyway, but I just had to go there to try and connect the dots, that’s all.

ROSE: That’s exactly correct, that ontologically speaking this is a very important project that you’ve taken on, to map things, in a sense. But to say that you’re incorrect about that is also correct (Jo laughs), because that’s – ontologically speaking – not really necessary to connect with spirit.

Sometimes the linearity [is] in your thinking only. Try to understand that we may be testing you, but to say that another way, trying ontologically the clothes you have, in spite of what you’re fealing the weather is outside, is what we’re (Jo chuckles) trying to expertly tell you doesn’t need to happen. You only need to dress appropriately for how you feal the weather has taken the day. So don’t worry trying on clothes to help you understand the weather, you don’t need to. You only need to allow yourself to dress as the spirit moves you, in some respects. Okay?

So does anyone have a question, dear ones? How about the ones on the telephone tonight?

CHRISTOPH: Yes, I have a question.

ROSE: Indeed, dear one.

CHRISTOPH: It is Christoph from Austria.

ROSE: Thank you, dear one. Go ahead.

CHRISTOPH: Okay, you said to me in our private session that I want to be a model of fearlessness, but these days I feel a lot of fear in me, which is preventing me from experiencing happiness, again.

And now I am twenty-three years old, and few months ago I discovered my first wrinkles around my mouth and my eyes. And the funny thing is that I don’t fear dying, but I fear losing the strength of my body and losing the flexibility of my body. And sometimes I fear losing my hair, and sometimes I ask myself how many years will it take before my hair gets grey?

And I fear pain. I fear losing my teeth. I fear my hearing diminishing in later years. And I think like maybe I’m in the prime of my life now, but very soon the sun will be over. And I can see people with similar fears all around me. For example, my father has to care for his parents and my grandfather suffers from dementia, or he’s in transition, as Elias would say.

And my grandmother’s in pain every night and day, and my father fears that because of the gene he will get the same kind of disease in a few years. And there is my mother and my girlfriend who use very expensive creams against wrinkles on their face [inaudible]. And especially for me as a student of medicine, there is some kind of truth that as years go by these gets worse and worse.

So I really want to wean myself out of this fear of aging, because you said to me that fears do not want to cause disease. And so I want to lose this fear for myself and for my parents and my girlfriend, and my friend and for my dog who is mirroring my fear very much now with shoulder problems. And maybe I can help some of my other focuses, too, in losing this fear of aging. For example, my Herman Hesse focus who is fearing getting old as much as I do, I think.

So what should I do now to get rid of this fear?

ROSE: You can begin by allowing yourself to first feal how very much we want to tell you not to fear. So try to allow Rose into your very breaths now, dear one. Okay?

CHRISTOPH: Okay.

ROSE: Just breathe in Rose for starters. Okay? You can all breathe Rose in for starters, because, beautiful ones, you all have fears that you need to allow only to dissipate. They may never completely go away, but to say that your fears have no value is not correct either. You only need to allow them the berth they have wanting, for you have only fear of fear sometimes. That’s all you have.

So to say that fear is bad is not correct. Fear helps you in every way to take on things that you didn’t even know about before. Fear helps you move into areas that you can’t even possibly imagine at times. So fear is, indeed, your friend, and you’ll fear less when you realize this. Okay?

Now onto your fears, indeed, dear Christoph, because this is, indeed, a very excellent way to ask yourself about your way of spirit. Okay? We’ll say a bit about this to all of you, because that is how you can translate into your own terms how your dear Christoph has allowed himself as a friendly way of getting into your own way of spirit. Okay? So youse[8] this opportunity to apply what we’ll say to Christoph to your own way of spirit. Okay?

Now, dear Christoph, that’s a very fearless thing to do – to raise the questions in the group setting that you’re in, indeed. Not many individuals would do so, so we want to applaud you first for having the courage to take on the questions in ways that are truly, remarkably, beautifully realizing that fear is not to be feared. Fear only helps you move into new areas. You held fear about your question, then you moved through it. And what did you learn in the process? That your Rose wants to help you, and so does every individual in this room.

Now fear helped you how? It helped you fear only the worst thing, which was not asking the question. So your asking the question is a truly beautiful way to not fear, and why did you ask the question, beautiful Christoph?

CHRISTOPH: Because in the last few days [inaudible] and it’s preventing me from experiencing bliss again, I think.

ROSE: You wanted to help yourself, as well as others, correct?

CHRISTOPH: Yes, yes, this is true.

ROSE: You truly, truly, did. We know this to be true. We’re only suggesting that this is the way of spirit for you. That’s all. And we mean that’s all in the sense that it’s an understatement to say, “That’s all.”

We’ll explain in ways that will help you with your current frustrations about fears, and also help you get your way of spirit a bit clearer in your mind. Okay? Now we’ll say that you’re correct, that fear helps you to locate the problem. As a healer, you fear that others will suffer, so you do what, you take action, don’t you?

You have a healing sense that is alerted when you fear. Your fear helps you sometimes, correct?

CHRISTOPH: I don’t know. (Laughs)

ROSE: The fear that others, indeed, will suffer – the fear that others will suffer – sometimes helps your fear to help you do things that relieve their suffering. To say that another way, you’re wanting only to help others, and the fear that others will suffer if you do not helps you do that.

And we’ll say, also, that the fear is strong in your family because you want to help them first, perhaps, but don’t wrong yourself into thinking that you’ve attracted individuals who only want to invoke your worst fears. You attracted these individuals to help you allow yourself to explore areas of healing that you haven’t yet. And you’re absolutely correct, that to realize the fear is the first step, because you want to help others – and that’s the way of spirit.

You can trust that this is the most provocative way to get on your path, because there’s no reason to believe that the way of spirit is, indeed, an entirely selfish thing. So what to say about that than allowing the work in the world is the most important thing that you can do, dear one.

The work you have in store for others is how you get on your way of spirit. There’s no reason to believe that only curing self is how you get your passions in line with your desires. There’s no reason to believe that selfishness is how you’ll get on your way of spirit, for to provoke yourself by helping, to help others fear less, is how individuals get on their path, and you’re doing a perfect – totally perfect – thing in helping yourself understand how you can help others.

So you’re very, very, wonderfully, expertly allowing yourself to find your way of spirit, and you’re very, very close. All you need to do is to allow your fear to move into areas that it does not yet exist. We don’t mean allow more fear, we only mean to allow the fear to live in ways that help your work in the world in ways that help others. That’s the way of spirit for you and everyone.

For you have learned that selfishness is a geanius way of spirit, and it is. For you need to allow your selfishness to help you first, but you also need to take that selfishness into the world in ways that help others. You don’t need to be entirely giving up yourself and your interests to help others. You only need to take your selfishness into the world.

So don’t wrong yourself thinking that you’re only attracting individuals who interpret fear the same way as you. You have the opportunity to reinterpret fear in ways that help you help others, and that’s the way of spirit for you, dear Christoph. So continue the excellent work you’re doing as a student of Rose, and we’ll allow your questions to help you along in your understanding also now, dear one.

CHRISTOPH: Okay, thank you.

ROSE: To say that another way, do you have any additional questions, dear Christoph?

CHRISTOPH: What are those areas of healing I haven’t found yet? I don’t know what you mean by this.

ROSE: You can say that fear has ways of getting under your skin, that you can trust that will be how you can consider the way of spirit for yourself, also. So fear is getting under your skin, and fear has a way of doing that. But what better way to bring attention to the always interesting ailments that plague the body than to consider that fear lives in bodies?

So don’t worry about fear. Only worry about allowing the fear to tell you – as a healer – how it wants you to realize healing in yourself and others. Try to imagine that fear is waiting for you to find it, then allow itself to be set free. Okay, dear one? Try that indeed, and we’ll help you always in spirit, dear one. Okay?

CHRISTOPH: Okay.

ROSE: Very well.

PAUL: Can I try and summarize that for my own clarity, too? This is Paul again. I take notes as we go through this and it helps me organize my thoughts. So I just wrote down here: that by finding a way to help others, Christoph, will find his way of spirit, which will help reduce his fear of aging.

And I got more out of the finding a way to help others than necessarily concentrating on healing per se, even though, obviously dealing with sick parents and family members, and having fears that that will manifest in your own self obviously is in play here. But by finding a way to help others finding the way of spirit, and reducing the fear of aging – is that anywhere in the ballpark, Rose?

ROSE: The way of spirit for yourself is always in assisting the way of spirit in others – by allowing health, by allowing fear to dissipate, for example. The way of spirit is always in assisting others. So you’re correct that Christoph’s way is in healing, and fear also helps him heal others because it helps him realize that others suffer more than they need to when they fear fear.

So fear helps you realize that there is no need to fear, and to address to things that you need to. So to take the aging, for example, into consideration. Aging helps you do what? To move into other areas for growth. Aging helps you deeply to help you realize that you’re only as beautiful as you are inside, in some respects. That’s what aging teaches you.

So aging helps you realize things about yourselves that you don’t need to realize in other ways. So to say that aging is bad is the problem, in some respects, but aging is only a fearless way to say, “I’m not ever going to die” also.

You’re not doing the work you’re doing to fear death. You’re doing the work you’re doing to allow death to dissipate in your allowance of understanding what you are. So death isn’t needing to be feared. It does need to be feared when you’re considering crossing the street in front of a bus, indeed. But fear only helps you realize that you need to take action.

So fear helps you say, “I don’t want to step off the curb right now, because I don’t want to die right now.” But there’s no need to fear death – only fearing that you’ll do well to not die tomorrow, possibly. So fear has many faces, and that’s the way we’ll say that fear has of dying as well, because you don’t need to ever fear dying. You don’t need to ever fear aging – you’re ageless.

Now Christoph knows this from his being a student of Elias. You can stress to your family, dear Christoph, that they do not die – they do not ever die – in spirit. That is, in some ways, not the thing they want to hear, but why fear saying that? Why fear doing that thing that you know is accurate? You don’t want to take them on in some ways, but why not?

Do you feal that that will help them, dear one?

CHRISTOPH: Maybe.

ROSE: You do feal, indeed, that it may. So why not try that, or try other ways to realize how very old you are in spirit always, and not say to your body, “Well, you’re doing a bad job being old in this lifetime, because you have more lifetimes to be young again anyway.”

You can say to your body, “Well, I’ll do well to try this, this time around. That’s why I decided to become physical this time, perhaps. To allow aging to, cantankerously at times, get into my body, as well as the bodies of those I love.”

So I can say to them, as well as myself, “Cheer up, you’ll not die anytime soon – ever.”

Or say to them, “You’re beautiful exactly the way you are, I love you, and I always will.”

So don’t worry that they’ll fear that you’re going off the deep end. You’re only suggesting that they have more to them than they’re allowing themselves to realize. And you’ll do well to allow yourself to beautifully teach them the ways of spirit. And you can say also to them, they have more to them than they can possibly imagine, for they have more to them as humans in spirit than they can realize now, also.

You don’t always age beautifully. Sometimes you do. Sometimes you don’t even live long enough to age beautifully. So don’t wrong yourself into aging not so beautifully, there’s more to realization of spirit than that, indeed. And you can put away your pots and your money, because that’s how you learn these things sometimes – through your fears, dear one.

Okay? So we’ll suggest that you have more to think about after Rose’s expressions, and we’ll allow your questions if you’d like, when you have them, dear one.

PAUL: Can I throw one more thought out that’s part of this, too? Namely, that the belief that aging and dying has to necessarily involve horrible illness – terrible, painful illness. And all of the teachers that we study – Seth, Elias, Kris, Abraham and so on – suggest strongly that there’s no reason to choose a death that involves a terminal illness, or some horrible, painful situation. That we can choose to die peacefully and calmly, and know that when our time is up that we simply check out.

ROSE: You can also say that sometimes pain doesn’t make you die faster. Sometimes individuals believe that pain brings on death, but it doesn’t. And you can also say that pain has some benefits, too. It helps you get attention.

That sounds so very wrong to say, but sometimes individuals do need a great deal of attention, and that’s how they sometimes need to get that. That’s not wrong. That’s not even sick. It’s how individuals get their needs met. So pay attention to those in pain, and however you wish to treat them, allow them to be in whatever ways of spirit they need to be, because pain sometimes has some qualities to it that bring on things that aren’t always in your purview, either.

This is a big topic, and we’ll explain at another time. But sometimes pain does have benefits that are assuaged by spirit, when you avail yourself of spirit. It’s sometimes a way to get the spirit’s attention, also, to help you realize suffering is not always needed. We’ll say more about this at another time.[9]

GEORGE: Rose, would you say that the more one goes the way of spirit, the easier it would be to align with one’s intent? It feels that way.

ROSE: The more one goes the way of spirit, the easier everything is, indeed. Intentionality has the way of spirit in it, in a sense. But you can also say that everything goes better with the way of spirit. Everything has fearlessness to it. Everything has spiritual allowances to it. Everything has more bliss and joy to it, indeed, in your way of spirit. Everything does go easier with spirit, indeed. It’s like a Coke commercial…, indeed. (Chuckling on the phone) Things go better with spirit, indeed. That’s exactly what we’re saying, indeed.

GEORGE: Produced by Team Rose!

ROSE: Exactly!

GEORGE: Excellent.

ROSE: Endorsed by Rose, indeed: the beverage of champions, indeed. So continue to allow your excellent questions this evening, dear ones.

TOM: Could I follow up a little bit on the topic? My understanding of some of the Abraham messages is that what you focus on you attract, so if you could kind of address this with what you’ve just said about fears – about if someone is say fearing illness, or dementia, or decline – is that more likely to attract it?

ROSE: That’s exactly correct.

PAUL: Bingo.

ROSE: The way that essence has of finding you in spirit is by your signature, in a sense. So we have ways of getting you what you want to attract to yourselves, in every way, indeed. So you’re correct, that Abraham is wanting to allow you to appreciate this very deep truth, indeed.

And Elias has also sometimes given the (Jo chuckles) appropriate information – we’re joking now. We love to tease Elias (Jo chuckles), individuals who study Elias, but we also want to express that he is exactly correct, also – that your ways of finding wants in spirit have to do with what you focus upon.

The ways you have of drawing things to yourselves are why we truly want to allow your way of spirit to impress itself on you. It’s a very important thing to have in mind, as well as in your hearts, because you will fear less, and therefore, have more expressions of joy without fear in your days when you do.

That’s why we stress intentionality, because that’s your way of doing what you truly want to in your lives. So when you do these things, they naturally have ways to attract the things you want into your days. So your wanting to express that Rose has a slightly different agenda is correct, we do. But the agenda is somewhat – indeed very much – in concert with your dead guys, in a sense.[10]

So don’t worry that Rose’s agenda is different. It’s not really. We just have a different set of expressions to tell you about that are complementary to the other teachings that you have availed yourselves of.

TOM: Thank you.

ROSE: You’re very welcome.

GEORGE: Well Rose, I guess you know what I mean if I say that I’m starting to listen.

ROSE: Indeed, we do.

GEORGE: Now regarding Diablo – the question I was supposed to ask. From what you mentioned a few sessions ago, I believe, and him reading the transcript, he’s aware of some changes that are going on, yet I feel there’s some confusion on his part. And I was wondering if maybe you can give me some pointers that I can probably bring up to him as a tool to aide him a little bit, in his own way of understanding things.

ROSE: Diablo has a sense that Rose is a free spirit that helps him to be the individual he wants to be. To say that Rose helps him is a very geanius way to say that he has friends in high places. Diablo wants to allow Rose into his days, but sometimes he fears that the way that he has of drawing things to him don’t turn out the way he wants them to, at times. But you don't ever need to fear Rose being in your days. There’s no reason to ever fear spirit being in your days. So Rose represents spirit in ways that Diablo connects with, and this is very important, because we all need things to hang on to, in a sense.

The spirit world is sometimes too nebulous to consider that we’re, in every way, there for you. Rose has many spirits in her, but you need to connect in ways that are personal to help you realize that. So Diablo needs to allow spirit to connect with him, but just like any other individual, needs to realize that spirit has a rosy name, as well as a rosy disposition. For why would you want to allow a nasty dark spirit into your days? You don’t, but that’s sometimes how individuals see spirit – as things that possess another in ways that are not beneficial to the individual.

So Diablo has some sense that Rose is good, but still has fears that spirit is bad because it may occupy you in ways that are not healthy. But that’s only his upbringing speaking, not his deepest self speaking. So Diablo will come around. He only needs to allow Rose into his nights, as well as days. But we will help him in spirit in his dreams, as well as in his written works, indeed. So do so. Allow Rose to help him in ways that you can consider teachings from George, as well, for you have influence on him that is very positive, indeed.

GEORGE: Alright, thanks.

ROSE: You’re very welcome. Now do we have other questions from the peanut galleries, indeed?

MARY: (Chuckling) I have a question.

ROSE: Go ahead, dear one.

MARY: It’s Mary. Today I was kind of exploring and playing with my energy centers, and as I was doing so – kind of just like going through and visualizing and moving the energy around my body using the different colors – I found that when I got to my yellow energy center, my emotional energy center, and keeping on the topic of fear that seems to be the overall topic of the evening, I felt really stuck, and that I couldn’t move the energy around, and that my fears were keeping me from having a free flow of energy from that center.

I tried to bring in my other energy centers to soothe myself and stuff like that, and later on had kind of like more experience with it. But I was just wondering if you had any suggestions or maybe exercises or, I don’t know, some sort of method or something to kind of help appease it into alignment, because the other ones felt really good.

ROSE: Appease the emotional center is an excellent choice of words, dear one. We’ll explain why that’s so funny, in a sense, because you’re correct that appeasement is in order here.

We’ll explain a bit because that is a very (Jo chuckles) geanius question for all of you. You all have a need to help your, sometimes contrary, emotions to be appeased. So we’ll say that you’re correct, that the word appeasement is what you’ll be doing to help you move your energy around a bit more.

There’s no reason to believe that Rose has more to her than only emotions. Sometimes you think of things as truly spiritual versus emotional. That’s not correct. Emotions are your way of expressing to yourself the things that spirit wants you to understand.

That’s why you have emotions, to help you understand spirit. And that’s why you sometimes fear them, because you’re learning to not fear them. You feared them in your past. That’s why you need to allow them now. Fear has ways of showing you things that you don’t know yet. For example, fear helps you realize that your wanting your emotions is a very geanius thing, because you feared, in the past, your emotions.

Why? Because you learned to fear things you don’t understand, and that’s why fear helps you.

In this case, we just wanted to throw that fear thing in there to help you understand that’s what’s holding you back. The fear that fear is getting in your way is a geanius way to say that you don’t need to fear fear.

So we’ll continue with your question about your emotions. So you’re wanting the emotions to fear only the things you need to. Fear helps you do that. Emotions don’t need fear. They only need to be expressed. To say that fear helps them to be motivated, in some ways, is the case. You don’t need to fear the emotions that you have done in the past. So don’t fear the emotions, is the first thing, for the many reasons we’ve just provided you.

To take on fear is why you have emotions. In some ways, the emotions help you realize how fearful you don’t need to be. Your fear only exists to help you. Emotions help you realize that fear, then move on. And when you fear that it, in many senses, is doing exactly that, you allow your fear to move on in ways that you don’t need to continue to fear anymore.

It’s like not stepping in front of the bus. You move in ways that fear tells you to move. Then you just let the fear go. And so emotions, then, take over to say that there was a reason why you feared. There was a reason why you felt that way. There was a reason why you wanted to express that to yourselves, because you wanted to fear only what you needed to tell yourselves. Do you understand that?

You only want fear to tell you things, and when you realize that, you won’t fear the emotions that are telling you about the ways of spirit for yourself. Indeed, the emotions want to tell you things that you won’t tell yourself in your mind. So emotions are very spiritual, and not to be feared. But you have, in many ways, been trained to fear your emotions. They are not trustworthy. They are not the mindful things you need to do. And even your Zen Buddhists sometimes fear their emotions, so this goes very deeply into your gross psyche.

The subtle [senses], though, that you’re learning to allow into your gross realizations of your physical body, have ways to tell you about themselves that have to do with your emotions. And that’s why you allow the emotions to tell you things, as we’ve said.

Now, the emotional chakra that is your allowance of yellow is a very, deeply important chakra, because you have many ways to allow it into your days, but you don’t always. You stuff it down, in many ways. Even your emotionally-focused individuals have their ways that are truly not helping them.

For emotionally-oriented individuals do need to realize processing of their spiritual ways through their energy center of yellow, but they don’t allow that because they fear their emotions. But that’s not a very geanius way to be your best spiritual selves. The emotions need expression. To say that appreciation for the yellow chakra is needed is an understatement. Try to allow the area to be bathed in love.

MARY: That’s what I did today. I moved my green down into my yellow to soothe it.

ROSE: Indeed, that’s a very geanius way to go about doing that. Another is to allow your pink center[11] to be encouraging your yellow center, also. The pink center is in between the heart chakra and the throat chakra.

Indeed, the pink center is what Rose uses to connect to you, in many ways. So your Roses have ways of getting you to allow your emotions, too, into your days. So do so. And allow your fears to tell you things the same way the other emotions do also, and trust that they are geanius in their own right, indeed.

MARY: Mmhm.

ROSE: So do so. And we will say that you’re doing an excellent job in allowing your exercises to take place in your body. They are helping you enormously, indeed.

MARY: Thank you.

ROSE: So continue to realize that, and we’ll allow your further questions if you’d like, dear one.

MARY: I do have one further question. I’ve been trying to figure out my essence name, and first I came up with a “J” sound, and then I came up with Jordan, and then I came up with Jordana, and I wasn’t sure if I came up with Jordana because I’m so used to being a girl. But I didn’t know if any of them were actually accurate.

ROSE: The exchange you made in your exercising your desire for an essence name is the best thing you could possibly do. It’s almost not as important that you have the name exactly, but that you did the work of connecting.

So don’t wrong yourself into thinking that you need an essence name, indeed. Rose will not use essence names right now, but we’ll suggest that your intentionality become your essence name. So try to allow the “Intention Name” exercise[12] into your days to allow your intention name to take on the same effort as your essence name. Okay, dear one?

MARY: Okay, that means my essence name is “Filthy Rich!” (Chuckling with others)

ROSE: That’s exactly correct, in probabilities (Mary laughs) you exactly are that, indeed. (Mary and Jo chuckle)

MARY: Thank you for that.

ROSE: That’s all we’ll say about Filthy Rich, for now, dear ones. We’ll say also that you need to take a break for now, and we’ll allow your questions later if you’d like.

We would like to hear from those individuals we haven’t yet, if you’d like to have your questions expressed tonight, dear ones. So we’ll speak with you a bit later. Okay?

PAUL: Okay. Thank you, Rose.

GROUP: Thanks Rose.

ROSE: You’re very welcome.

BREAK: 6:10 PM.

RESUME: 6:40 PM.

ROSE: Continuing, dear ones, to allow your questions now if you’d like. We would like to hear from those we haven’t yet this evening. Okay? So do so.

PAUL: Eduardo?

NARDINE: Nardine here. Sorry, Eduardo, want to go first?

EDUARDO: Yeah, I had a question about my intent name. I’m thinking it was something like, I’m thinking about Creator of Worlds, maybe?

ROSE: That is a very geanius expression, Eduardo. We’ll say why now. You have a creator of worlds in you in ways that are Gramada in scope. So you’re correct that Creator of Worlds is how you chreate your reality, but also you’re interesting yourself in the Gramada action of finding value in creating things like inventions, for example. So try to allow Gramada into your allowance for intentionality, for Rose suggests that you are aligning-with, in some ways. So try this on for size and see how you like the fit dear one. Okay?

EDUARDO: Okay. You’re saying I’m aligning-with Gramada?

ROSE: You’re correct that you’re aligning-with Gramada in ways that are truly intentional, in ways that the Sumari-self wants to appreciate. So try to think of the creation of worlds as a sort of Sumari expression that is informed by Gramada.[13] Okay, dear one?

EDUARDO: Okay.

ROSE: Then try to allow yourself to begin to express how you will be chreating those worlds, then you’ll really be on your way of spirit, for the way is doing things that are somewhat specific at times, so try to get the next layer of specificity into your intention name, dear one. Okay?

EDUARDO: Okay, I gotcha.

ROSE: Good. Now we’ll also say that you have a Sumari belonging-to. Is that correct?

EDUARDO: Maybe. (Jo chuckles) I think when I asked Elias he told me it was Gramada, but could be you know, they kind of blend in.

ROSE: We’ll go with Sumari-Gramada, also. That’s why you wanted Rose to say that you’re wanting Gramada into your days. You’re not paying attention to that as much as you might do so. So try to allow more Sumari into your days, but also your Gramada self has to be continually allowed expression, also. Okay? That’s why we were confusing you. You wanted to allow us to tell you to do that, that’s all. So do so. And we’ll allow your questions now if you’d like.

PAUL: Do you have any more questions, Eduardo?

EDUARDO: Nothing right now.

ROSE: That’s okay. We’ll tell you more about your intention name when you have a sort of fine-tuning of that name. And you’ll fear less when you do discover your name, because the intent name is so very invigorating for you all, that you’ll do well to discover it so as to fear not the way you have of being in the world, indeed. So do so.

And we’ll allow more questions. Caryn, would you like to ask a question?

CARYN: I feel like – at least in this moment – drastically seeming to change my intentionality. It is very surprising to me the direction I feel like I am going in right now, but it feels right. It feels good, and I’m really enjoying it. I just wanted, I guess, a confirmation that that’s what’s happening and I’m not just imagining something.

ROSE: You’re allowing your intentionality, not really changing your intentionality, so you’re discovering things that you needed to discover. That’s why you’re fealing like the change is great, and it is great, because you’re wanting to express more to yourself than you have in the past. And you’ll do well to continue to dig deeply to discover why your “left coast ways” are so very needed right now. Do you understand what we mean by that?

CARYN: Yeah, I think so.

ROSE: You’ll do well to discover that the left coast has ways that are truly remarkable, and you’re allowed to youse them in ways that you haven’t yet allowed yourself to, that’s all. So we’ll say more about this at another time. Okay?

EDUARDO: I have a follow-up question on my intent name?

ROSE: Yes!

EDUARDO: How about Creator of Worlds for Transformation?

ROSE: That’s a very geanius way to say that your intentionality has to do with teaching the way of spirit to others, Eduardo. You have many means to trust that you’re doing that now, as well as in the future. We think you can even be a bit more specific than you are now…

EDUARDO: Okay.

ROSE: …but we don’t want to discount that as not correct. It is very correct, dear one.

So continue to allow the beautiful expressions of teachings in your days, because you are a very excellent teacher. Now this isn’t to say that you need to be on a stage or in a classroom to teach, you can teach in your ways of being in the world, indeed, and you do this very well, dear one. So continue to hone your craft of teaching, as well as to hone your style of how you invent things in the world. Okay?

EDUARDO: Alright, I will.

ROSE: Indeed. Now we’ll suggest that your dear teachers were correct that you have, in some ways, more attractions than you want to have right now. We suggest that you try to allow non-attraction to be a law a bit. We’ll explain.

The Law of Non-Attraction[14] is what we’ll discuss tonight in your last minutes of your session. For this is a very interesting way to view life as it is, not as you want that to be. We will say also that the Law of Attraction isn’t always what it’s cracked up to be.

The Law of Attraction is sometimes a way of getting individuals to pay for things that they don’t have in their intentionality, in a sense. They don’t need the big houses. They don’t need the big cars. They don’t need the things they want, as well as the things they desire sometimes. They want only what they want, and they think that by allowing themselves to think that they need the things they want, that will get the things they don’t really want to have – not by a long shot.

The ways of spirit have to do with desires being met, not necessarily wants. And you’ll do well to realize that sometimes you need to discern between the wants as well as the desires. So the Law of Non-Attraction has to do with not wronging yourself into believing that you need to do certain things to be happy in the world.

Sometimes you only need to trust that you are already doing exactly what you need to in the world. And you’re already doing exactly what you want to do in the world, in spite of the fact that others may have things that you don’t. The Law of Non-Attraction says that you are already doing what you need to do, period. You don’t need anything else in the world.

So we’ll suggest to you that you’re already doing exactly what you want to do, in spite of how you may want things to be different. So trust that we will always interest you in being who you are, without the need to intrude on your lovely selves. For doing things you love is what you want to do, not having things you want. That’s the way of spirit – to do the things you love, indeed. Isn’t that what you’ve always wanted anyway?

When you suggest to yourselves that you want a boat so you can do something fun, why do you need to have a boat to have fun? Why do you need a big house to have fun? In fact, you can make a personality out of a milk carton or orange juice carton and have fun. Tonight that’s exactly what Sarah’s doing in the next room.[15] She’s having fun with something she found and she’s using it to express her intentionality in ways that you don’t always.

So trust that the Law of Attraction is a very excellent teaching, but don’t confuse it with your need to express to yourself that you do already have exactly what you want to have, as well as want to have in your path on your way of spirit. For sometimes even the things you see as being in your way are really the things you need to have there in order to realize how you need to go about getting on your way of spirit.

So trust that there’s every reason to believe that we’re always watching out for you, as well as allowing you to explore things that you need to. But you don’t need to cry that we don’t give you what you want. You only need to want what you have at times, as well as desire things that are geanius things for you, indeed.

So do you have any questions, dear ones, about your Rose’s “anti-matter” Law of Non-Attraction, indeed?

EDUARDO: No, I understand that perfectly.

ROSE: You do have more…

EDUARDO: But…

ROSE: …go ahead, dear.

EDUARDO: No, go ahead.

ROSE: You have more to you than you can possibly imagine. The engines that run your reality are so very tuned into what you need that you don’t need to doublethink the things that you do every day. You only need to sometimes allow appreciation for those things, that’s all. For you don’t need to allow only your best selves to thrive, you also need to allow your best selves to find peace as well.

Thriving is a sort of finding of peace, but you sometimes overlook the need for peace when you think about thriving. The thriving is an action, but being at peace is also an action. So sometimes you only need to allow the things to happen that need to happen, and allow yourselves to find ways to change in ways that you’ll find more divine, in some respects.

So try to allow yourselves to let yourselves (Lightly said) be happy, that’s all. You don’t need to (Deeper spoken) draw deep thoughts about how you want to be in the world at times, you only may need to be in the world, that’s all.

So try to allow your magical days to inspire you in ways that you don’t yet, that’s all. You don’t need to be any better than you are, in many ways. Sometimes you do, indeed, need to be better because you need to be happier, but you don’t need to wrong on yourselves for not getting the things you think you need. For in the long run, portents of fame and fortune are not what they may seem to be, indeed.

So don’t worry that you’re not doing what the others may be doing, only think of how your being in the world is so very loving to us Roses, that we do want to express that you’re only wanting to allow yourself the same provision of fine-tuning that we have in store for you, indeed. So do so.

Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Only try to fine-tune your provision of being on your way of spirit to help you – that’s all – not to exclaim that you need to win the lottery. That’s not what you’re here for, dear ones. You’re here to serve yourselves, as well as others. So do so.

And we’ll allow your questions on this very contrary topic, indeed.

NARDINE: Nardine here, if I may make an acknowledgment?

ROSE: Dear Nardine, always, dear one, go ahead.

NARDINE: I would like to acknowledge everyone’s contribution so far, and especially relative to fear – I’m acknowledging fear mySelf – my fear of speaking up and speaking out, and I don’t want to wrong mySelf in that acknowledgment. I want to honor that energetic disharmony, so that I can trust it through to the love of mySelf and All-That-Is.

And acknowledge, also, that with my recognizing of my intentionality and my chosen intent name of the Heart Whisperer, the whispers of my heart want to be expressed, and I don’t want to sit here in fear and silence. I want to acknowledge each and all of us for stepping through our fears.

And allowing for myself, I recognize my fears as a disharmony in my body energetically, and I can feal it in my yellow emotional chakra, or I can feal it in my heart chakra, or I can feal it in my throat chakra. All of those signs – energetic discords – say to me that my inner voice wants expression, and will find a comfort in expression through integrating those chakras into a centeredness of loving expression through listening to my heart whispers.

And so I just wanted to acknowledge that at this moment, (Exclaiming) so I don’t hang up from this call saying (Emphatically) “I didn’t speak up again.” (Smiling heart with JoRose) So, I applaud me! (Group claps and cheers)

ROSE: I applaud you too, dear Daisy. (Group laughter and smiles)

NARDINE: Thank you!

ROSE: Indeed. Now do you all hear that elegant expression of heart-centered worth in her words? In other words, did you catch that heart whispering to you just now?

CATHERINE: Yes.

ROSE: Try to imagine again, Nardine speaking – do you understand what she does when she speaks, dear ones? Her intention name is Heart Whisperer. Do you understand why? She does. Tell us, dear one, why you’re wanting to call yourself the Heart Whisperer.

NARDINE: To me the very breath of existence is love, and for me my love is expressed through my heart, and my sensing of all other beings – all consciousness – is through the heart of each and everyone. So I guess in truth, I listen to the heart of myself. I listen to the heart of all others, I listen to the heart of All-That-Is. So I honor those whisperings.

ROSE: You do, as well as you listen to other’s hearts, you speak to them, also. Do you all have a sense that she did that to you just now? Do you sense that her heart is speaking with yours right now?

GROUP: Yes.

ROSE: Try to imagine how you – in Team Rose’s terms – intrude on the many individuals in your days that exact way, yousing other chakras also. Intrude, that is, in a sense of rightness, not wrongness.

You intrude on others in your way of sensing how they feal, how they look to you in healthy or unhealthy ways, sometimes. And you have a sense that they have chakras in them, also, don’t you? And you have a sense that your chakras speak with theirs at times, the same way that Nardine’s – in your way of sometimes listening to her in your speech, as well as in your subtle energy – speaks with you. She speaks with you in energetic terms, as well as in words.

So you’re wondering why we’re mentioning this now. But we want to say that your allowing chakra intrusions into your energy centers is sometimes what you miss when you speak with other individuals. You aren’t really trusting the senses that they give to learn about the other individuals, or about yourselves at times.

Sometimes you’ll block a chakra because you’ll sense that it is being intruded upon by others – by others who want that energy – in a sense. But you don’t need to fear that others will get the energy you have. There’s not that kind of intrusion going on. You don’t need to worry about that. What you do need to look at, at times, is how you’ll want to express to yourself what’s going on.

So try to imagine again how Nardine feals when she speaks with you. How does it feal when Nardine speaks to you? It feals…

PAUL: …it feals lovely!

ROSE: It feals lovely.

PAUL: (Smiling heart) It feals warm and fuzzy.

ROSE: It feals wonderful. Why is that?

PAUL: Because she’s whispering to my heart.

ROSE: She is indeed, and she’s sending her energetic imprint to yours, also. She’s connecting with you in ways that are truly magical. When you think of how someone in Australia can be affecting you physically now in the Philadelphia area, that is your mindset of sorts – the (Jo laughs) “Philadelphia in your mind” is where we’ll position you now collectively. As a group we’ve averaged you together and come up with Philadelphia (Mary chuckles on the phone) for your location. Okay?

So you’re all in Philadelphia. Nardine is in Australia. You’re finding she has a very strong physical impression on you in spite of the distance. Why is that?

Do you realize how very wonderful you are? That’s why we’re asking you that question. You don’t really realize how excellent you are at picking up another’s energy from subtle space, as well as how you, dear ones, truly have the abilities that have truly magical underpinnings for your very lives. For you have so much to gain from getting on your way of spirit that we can’t stress this enough.

You are emerging in ways that are like butterflies who have been in cocoons for so very long that they don’t realize how very wonderful it is to fly. So try to spread your wings, as well as to allow the butterfly in you to fly in ways that would be considered wonderful, indeed. For you only need to spread your wings in order to see the beauty, then try to take flight yousing the unique impressions that you get from your beautiful wings.

You’re wanting to get the wings now, so you can find out how to fly. And your wings are your unique signature that you can express has to do with how your path will be allowing itself before you. So continue to consider yourselves as butterflies in the making, and allow yourselves to imagine the unique paths that await you once you decide on the colors of your beautiful wings, dear ones.

That’s your way of spirit. That’s your way of getting the best self to, in every way, tell you what you want to do with your very lives, indeed. So do so, as well as fear not, that the way of spirit will swallow you up. It won’t. It will only provide you a draft that you can ride into your glorious future, indeed.

So continue to ask your beautiful questions, dear ones. And allow others to ask if they have not yet. Okay? Now we’ll allow your questions.

JIM: Well, Paul and I were speaking during the break, and I was discussing that I grew up with a group – my parents went to a church that used mediums and that was in, probably starting in the fifties – and one of the questions in my mind I’m always wondering is, from that group to Seth, to Elias, to Rose, is this progression. I’d just like you to discuss a little bit what that progression is. Does it have to do with what we as essence are ready for, what we’re able to absorb and use in the world?

ROSE: That’s an excellent question, dear one. The way we are telling you about that is how you can find the answers in yourself, in a sense, because you have grown also. Correct?

JIM: Correct! (Laughs)

ROSE: You’ve grown a great deal since your wonderful encounters with mediums, but that’s not to say that there isn’t some subtle stuff going on also in your world, there is. So you can think of the world as progressing at the same rate as you have, in some ways, as ways of spirit have to take on different guises, depending on how they will be perceived in your world. So they have more to say about things, but cannot when the situations are dangerous.

For example, the way your weany girl[16] here has of doing the thing she does, is because she has a sense that the world is ready for this, so she does so. And she has more to say about that when you speak to her, but we’ll summarize by saying that she’s aware that there are deep reasons for her abilities to come through in ways that affect the world.

But there’s no reason to believe that there will not be some other medium, besides her, in the future who will take on more than she does. So that’s one way of saying that there’s always a sort of evolution that takes place in these times that is very profoundly beautiful when you consider how many different expressions there are of spirit.

And we’ll sound a bit more precise by saying that the mediumship that she does isn’t exactly that – it’s more exponentially providing of influence, so mediumship is a smaller aperture to spirit, in some ways, that the world was ready for then, but is ready for more now – as are you, indeed.

So do continue your excellent questions, dear one, if you’d like.

JIM: I’m at a loss for questions right now, I think you’ve induced….

ROSE: That’s fine, we’ll allow them whenever you like, indeed.

JIM: You’ve been answering my questions all evening, so….

ROSE: Good! We’ll say, also, that you have a fine way of getting your own answers at times, dear one. You have a sense that you have more to say about that at a time when it may be more expressive to you, in a sense. You can trust that the way of spirit to you has to do with your own innate sense of subtle energies, too. You have gifts that you’re finding now also, so continue to do so, and we’ll assist always, indeed.

JIM: Thank you!

ROSE: You’re very welcome. To say that you all have abilities is truly the most correct thing. But he has some things in mind when we say that, that he will tell you about at another time perhaps. Indeed.

So continue to ask your dear questions, dear ones.

EDUARDO: I might have some more Gramada, I think I might have done that, because I thought I had a good handle on that, but maybe I might achieve with Sumari a bit?

ROSE: Gramada individuals involve themselves in inventions of many kinds. So you’re correct to invent the way of spirit for yourself in ways that are allowing yourself, dear one, to connect with your artistry. Then take that into ways that are wanting to express themselves in invention.

EDUARDO: It doesn’t have to be physical inventions, right?

ROSE: That is correct. You’re wanting inventions sometimes to help others to thrive, for example. So inventions can be discoveries of spiritual ways of being in the world that have not been told yet. They can be ways of finding theoretical prominence, in a sense, to help others understand things in new ways.

So that’s exactly correct, that that can be in thoughts, for example. To invent thoughts that have not been expressed before would be a very geanius way to go about expressing your Gramada self, indeed.

EDUARDO: Okay!

ROSE: So do so. And we’ll allow more questions if you’d like tonight, dear ones, or we’ll say that….

PAUL: I wanted to make a comment. I had a light bulb go on earlier, and I just wanted to make a comment about essence names versus intent names, and how Rose has been addressing to them early on in her forum, and just want to put that out there for Rose to comment on.

I’ve been blessed to have received an essence name from Elias – it’s Caroll with one ‘r’ – and one from Kris as well – he calls me Janaki, which was a name I’d never heard of. Yet when I googled it there were like a million hits in Pakistan. It’s like George or Jones in Pakistan and India and that region – and yet Mary asked Rose for an essence name earlier tonight, and Rose did not oblige her that, but commended her for doing the work on connecting with that.

Then she steered Mary toward doing more work on an intent name, and she’s done that before. And it made me realize I am closer to my own intent name, which I’ve shared with the group. It’s a Sumari phrase, “Kagid al tumbra.” It’s in the transcripts so I don’t have to reiterate it.[17]

I am closer to my intent name than I am to any of my essence names given by these other teachers, in a sense – because there’s a loving relationship with the essence name as given by these teachers and it’s something I’m privileged to have. It’s very touching – and yet, when I’m going through “the bridge over troubled waters” in my life, I don’t refer to my essence name, I refer to my intent name, and that has helped set me straight and set my compass all these years – I’ve done this for ten years now.

And finally, Elias introduced this exercise early on in the group out here, in the first or second year, and it kind of came and went for a month or two, and it dropped off the radar screen.[18] It made an appearance again when some of us came in and read the early transcripts, and then dropped off the radar screen again.

And now Rose is bringing that up. So I just wanted to commend Eduardo for sharing his intent name with us tonight and Nardine as well – and I’ve always said Nardine, you have a big, big heart and it’s a beautiful intent name. So I just wanted to throw that out there and see what Rose has to say about that.

ROSE: You’re absolutely correct, that that is why you need the intent names to help you – to connect with your intentionality. For what better way is there to connect with spirit than to connect with how you’re sontering your days, how your supposedly conducting the activities in your lives?

That’s why you want to be alive – to do the things you’re born to do, so take heed that the intent name is so very important that the weany girl has taken on that as her intentionality – to help others connect with theirs.

So that’s why Rose has taken this on as the very “providing of satisfaction” ways for you, as well. That’s exactly why you need to do this exercise. That’s exactly why you need to connect with your life’s purpose – to help you help yourselves to be the most satisfied individuals in the world.

Indeed, what more would you want us to do than to help you get onto your way of spirit? That’s exactly why Rose helps you tonight, because she wants to help you, in every way, to be happy individuals as well as loving, as well as serving others.

So trust that you’ll do well to continue to youse your intent names as your essence names, so as to allow yourselves to continually [be] reminded of how very beautiful you are, and how very expressive of the deepest selves you can possibly be. So do so.

And we’ll allow your questions if you’d like, but especially if you have questions about intent names, indeed, for they are very important to us, as well as yourselves. That’s why you’ve drawn yourselves to this forum to be students of Rose, to learn about yourselves in ways that you haven’t yet, indeed. So do so.

Continue to ask your questions, dear ones.

GEORGE: Well Rose, I feel like you’re a mind reader. (Chuckling) Kind of looks like you are…

ROSE: Indeed.

GEORGE: …because sometimes I appreciate that you’re not intrusive, I’ll say that. But if I may, I need a little hint, some help regarding a dream I had recently. May I proceed?

ROSE: That’s if you have to do with your intent name, yes.

GEORGE: I don’t know, I mean I can’t say that that was my intent of asking this question. It might have something to do with my intent. It kind of freed me of something, this dream I had. It felt a weight being taken off. I almost feel like I am having a different life experience because of that, so that might be tied in with intent. Funny things seem to be happening easier, they’re coming along easier than they used to.

ROSE: Exactly.

GEORGE: But should I pursue this regarding the hint, or should I just leave it alone? (Chuckles)

ROSE: Do so, continue to ask the question. That’s why you’re wanting to ask it. It does have to do with your intentionality.

GEORGE: Okay. I had a dream that for a long time I had something around my leg that was kind of uncomfortable, I was used to it – it was tight around here on my leg (Gesturing to his right calf), and it’s been there for so long that I took it for granted. Yet in my dream I said, “You know what? Let me see what it is.” So I started pushing this thing out. The more I try to push it out, the bottom of my pants on my right leg, the more resistance I would encounter.

Eventually I really said, “Forget it, I have to see what this is.” I pushed it out. It looked like a huge rat-looking possum – it’s probably the same thing. And I said, “I don’t want this thing around my leg anymore.” It tried to wrap around my leg again, being very nice to me and I heartlessly said, “You know what? Get lost!” And it disappeared.

I woke up in the morning (Laughing) and everything was great, and it’s kind of been great ever since. (Laughing very happily, with others now) So the only person I told this, I was BS’ing with Diablo there, having nothing else to do but this kind of talk, and he says, “You know, there must be rats around your life you got rid of.” And he’s trying to pinpoint who the rat was, although I’m tending to think it might not have something to do with an actual thing or being. It has something to do more with myself personally, this focus of George.

It must be something that I was so used to with it. Well, we were talking earlier today how we all get used to live in fear, and we’re fearful to drop that. So a lot of us are scared of the so-called unknown. Who knows? We’re raised a certain way and taught that this is good and that’s bad, and don’t take chances, whatever it is. But it looks like I shed something, it feels good, I like it. I’m trying to get a sense of what the rat was.

If you can tell me it will make my life easier. (Laughs) If it’s another test, I don’t want it! (Laughing) But if you’re telling me the hint, it would be greatly appreciated.

ROSE: Tests are ways that we teach too, so don’t fear tests. But the way you can think of your dream is as a test, too, in a sense, because the tests have ways of finding you always, George, indeed.

GEORGE: I don’t fear tests. I dread them!

ROSE: (Chuckles) Don’t wrong yourself into making your dream into a test, for it was a test in many ways. But it was an excellent test, and you passed it, indeed. So try to realize how you felt when you allowed the thing to move on.

How did you feal when you allowed the thing to move on? Relieved?

GEORGE: It felt light, a lightness – easiness.

ROSE: Exactly, you allowed it to go, right?

GEORGE: Yeah, I was not attached to it any more.

ROSE: So why do you want to find the thing again?

GEORGE: I do?

ROSE: Do you?

GEORGE: I wasn’t consciously thinking about it.

ROSE: You don’t want to find the thing again, do you?

GEORGE: No!

ROSE: So don’t follow the thing around to see what it was – only let the thing go. That’s all you need to do is just allow it to go, and then you’ll discover what you’re wanting to gain from the experience. It’s not about what you’ve lost. It's about the freedom that you’re gaining in the process, that’s all.

GEORGE: Yeah, that’s the way it feels.

ROSE: So don’t worry about the thing and what it represents. It’s, in some ways, not really important. The important thing is that you enjoy your freedom, in a sense.

GEORGE: Alright, Rose, I trust you on that!

ROSE: Okay, do so. (Chuckles with George)

So, George, tell us what was the little beast anyway?

GEORGE: It was like a huge rat, probably about a foot, foot and a half long – kind of lovely looking. You know rats, people say, it’s kind of a furry rat. I still see the dream. It’s so funny looking (Chuckling) back on it. It almost was a good experience, actually.

ROSE: The rat was your wanting to do what?

GEORGE: I think it was wanting me to do what I want to do actually. (Chuckling) So I think that’s what it was, you know, probably that’s what it was.

ROSE: That’s exactly right, you didn’t fool us with that. You only wanted to let the rat go. That’s why we asked you. We were testing you. You did the right thing. You didn’t over-analyze that. That’s exactly what we were trying to tell you to do, and you did a very good job!

GEORGE: I told you I’m listening more. (Laughing)

ROSE: (Humorously) Indeed, that’s the point! Very well. Geanius job, George, indeed. So continue to allow your rats to scurry away when you’d like them to, indeed.

So we’ll allow more questions if you’d like.

PAUL: We have run out of time, madam.

ROSE: Okay.

PAUL: We sign up for just under three hours, so we’re over our limit and we’re taking up other people’s time. So we need to wrap it up.

ROSE: Okay, thank you very much, weany boy, for expressing that to us this evening.

And we’ll allow you to allow your Roses into your dreams to allow your sense of your greater self to permeate the wonderful days you have ahead. To allow more Rose into your days is allowing your essence into your days.

We all do love and appreciate you very, very much, dear ones. So continue to love yourselves and express to yourselves the glory of your being, indeed, dear ones. So do so. We love you.

GROUP: Thank you, Rose!

ROSE: You’re very welcome.

(Rose Departs: 7:34 PM.)

(Transcribed by Nardine Neilson, October 8, 2008.)

 

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Endnotes

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[1] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of gene and genius. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[2] Paul’s note: The “shift in consciousness” is a phrase coined by Elias, channeled by Mary Ennis. It points to massive global changes occurring to all humanity that began in the early twentieth century and will culminate around the year 2075. This is not a hard and fast date, just an end point in most probable probabilities. This shift has been interpreted in many different ways to date. For example, Seth referred to as a religious reformation that would feature the return of the “Christ entity” to be completed by 2075. Physicist Peter Russell called it an approaching singularity or white hole in time, social philosopher and psychologist Ken Wilber called it the centaur stage of development that features “vision-logic,” sociologist Jean Gebser called it the integral-aperspectival structure-stage of collective evolution, John White predicted the emergence of a new species of human called homo noeticus, Elias’ “shift in consciousness” is also now used by The Institute for Noetic Sciences, author Arjuna Ardagh called it The Translucent Revolution, futurist Ray Kurzweil envisioned an Age of Spiritual Machines, and on and on we go!

[3] Joanne’s note: The end of sentence was a bit incoherent and we modified when editing the transcript.

[4] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of feel and real. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[5] Paul’s note: For more info, see Session 277, August 16, 2008.

[6] Paul’s note: I referred to The Education of Oversoul Seven (1973) by Jane Roberts in which Oversoul Seven is the main character who follows four of his lifetimes simultaneously in four different centuries. His teacher, Cyprus, holds a wider awareness and helps Seven to earn to his “Oversoul Eight stripes,” so to speak. Even though this is a fictional example, it is a way to conceptualize ontological differences within essence, so as to make sense out of Rose’s answer to Catherine.

[7] Paul’s note: Elias has offered a lot of information on what he calls essence fragmentation. In a nutshell, it’s a metaphor for the way that essence “reproduces” and “lives and dies” within its own domains of being. For instance, Elias claims to hold his native focus of attention in Regional Area 4 (similar to Seth’s Framework 4 and Kris’ Level 4).

For more info, see Digests: fragmentation.

[8] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of you and use. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[9] Paul’s note: The day after I finished editing this transcript I came across the following Comic called Candorville that put Christoph’s, and really all of our, fear of getting old and dying in a beautiful context.

[10] Paul’s note: Rose stated early on that her agenda is to help us connect more directly with our essence, which serves as a mediator of sorts within All-That-Is. Elias, on the other hand, stated early on that his agenda is to lessen potential trauma of the shift in consciousness that began circa 1900 and will conclude, roughly, in 2075. Seth never stated outright any particular agenda, though in hindsight, the forty-plus books written by Jane Roberts all contribute a unique postmodern update to what is called the perennial philosophy. Also, Seth had Sumari intent, and as such, reveled in the creative challenge of introducing his map of All-That-Is (the multidimensional Self) along with Jane Roberts’s writing, fiction, and poetry, and Rob Butts’ writing and painting. Kris holds a strong Tumold or healing intent, and like Seth, has never overtly stated an agenda. All of which is to suggest that each channeled source follows its own unique intent, purpose, or agenda that, taken as a whole, forms a complementary body of helpful information.

For more info, see The Rose Agenda and Digests: agenda.

[11] Paul’s note: Elias introduced a new energy center, the pink, between the traditional heart and throat energy centers. He claims it is emerging collectively as part of the shift in consciousness, and is used to facilitate subtle energies and inner senses. Kris has also recognized it. For more info, see Digests: energy centers.

[12] Paul’s note: Rose has become cagey in giving out or using essence names of late, as she continues to guide people to explore their intent more deeply. For more info, see Discover Your Intent Name.

[13] Paul’s note: Sumari (Artists) and Gramada (Innovators) are two of the nine families of consciousness originally introduced by Seth in The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 2 (1979) by Jane Roberts, and greatly expanded by Elias, channeled by Mary Ennis.

According to Elias we each belong-to a family intent at the essence level, and align-with a family intent at the focus personality level. This framework of innate intention allows for countless permutations, and implies that there is an overall purpose to our multiverse and lives. It also helps explain why people who grow into similar developmental stages (worldviews) can still have so many different interests, goals, and desires.

For more information, see Families of Consciousness and Digests: essence families; an overview.

[14] Paul’s note: Rose made a play on the Law of Attraction taught by Abraham, channeled by Ester Hicks. The Law of Attraction implies that “birds of a feather flock together,” and so we attract people, wellness, abundance, creativity, fulfillment, etc. into our lives based on our ability to ask, believe, and receive. However, the teaching is often watered-down or distorted in various New Age quick-fix fads like Rhonda Byrne’s The Secret, and people end up with a hefty dose of “New Age Guilt” when they find that their egoic thoughts, visualizations, and wants don’t instantly manifest consumer goods, a soulmate, wealth and fame, or heal a chronic dis-ease.

For more info, see The Secret’s Little Secret: A Review.

[15] Paul’s note: George’s 12-year old daughter, Sarah, brought a “doll” to the session that she made out of a half gallon orange juice container.

[16] Paul’s note: This is Rose’s affectionate name for Joanne as she weans herself of old habits, limiting beliefs, and fears. For more information, see The Rose Glossary.

[17] Paul’s note: For more info, see Session 225, February 16, 2008.

[18] Paul’s note: For more info, see the intent names exercise.