“Discover Your Intent Name”
“Rose and Bird Imagery”
“There’s Nothing Wrong With Judging”
“Enjoy Your Beautiful Expressions of Compassion”
“Exploring Differences Between Essences”
Session 266 (Group/Castaic, California)
Saturday, July 05, 2008
Participants: Joanne (Tyl), Paul (Caroll), Ursula, Joyce (Rosalie), George, Mike, Sarah, Eric, and Rumi the cat.
(Paul’s note: Eric, my younger brother in Lansdale, PA, was helping us to test our speakerphone during this session.)
(Rose Arrives: 4:37 PM. Arrival time 66 seconds.)
ROSE: You want to ask questions, dear ones, tonight? To tell Rose your wonderful ideas, perhaps, about your wonderful way of spirit, your intentions? The intent name exercise, perhaps, has impulsed into your days, or something more than that, even? For the intent name exercise is why you want to take on Rose tonight, and we’ll allow questions about the exercise first. To say this another way, did you do your homework, dear ones?
PAUL: Did you know you had homework, those of you who weren’t here? (Joanne chuckles)
JOYCE: No.
GEORGE: No, I was here and I didn’t know.
ROSE: Okay. That we did give homework is debatable. (Paul laughs) You were, in every way, too hot and bothered to listen[1], maybe, but we did want to tell you about this, so do take on the exercise to allow the best expressions that you can expect in your lives, indeed.
The intention names are the very best way you can express to yourselves how you want to be in the world, and you have more than enough ideas to get to the matter. In many ways, you have many ideas that you want to bring into the world, and you have many things to do – so why not try to allow the intent to take on the things you want them to do? So do so, and we’ll always, in every way, assist.
To say the things are important to you is a very more-than-less-than way to say that this is an understatement. The intent names are truly the best thing you could possibly do for the way of spirit for yourselves, okay? So do so, and we’ll always assist. Now, do you have questions, dear ones, about any topic at all?
PAUL: I just want to follow up on the intent name exercise. What little I remember from the heat from two weeks ago, you did ask me, us, to put that up on your website, and so we did get something up there. So I just put that out there for folks, that it’s under the “Practices” tab and it’s called “Discover Your Intent Name.”[2]
URSULA: The “family of consciousness” link didn’t work though. I was unwittingly doing my homework (laughs).
PAUL: Good, and if you find a broken link just zip an email over, and what page it is on. Send the link over and what it is, because we’re doing so much work on it….
URSULA: Oh yeah. Oh, I’m not trying to complain.
PAUL: Oh, I know, because there’s going to be some mistakes, and stuff – we usually catch most of them.
URSULA: I was going to ask her about that, though, because why is it important to us?
PAUL: Good question. (Group laughter)
ROSE: Okay, yes, dear ones. It is a very questionable question, for we will ask you to say what you think the answer is. If you had a way to get the things you want into your lives, what to say about that? Would you try to examine everything that you would consider needed? Or would you try to assume a certain stance in the world to say, “Hey, here I am! I want to allow more into the world for myself.”
So what to say about that? Do you have a sense of where we’re going with this?
You can examine every little bit of things in your lives to say if you like them or not, but we suggest that when you allow more into your examinations so as to allow more sense that you’re wanting certain things, then you have a sense that the world is you, as well as your name, in a sense. So the world is you.
The weany girl has a “Brings Colors” intent name – that she is playing to the hilt, in a sense. She brings colors into her many worlds – of work, of the Rose phenomenon, of the many friendships she has, indeed. She has been so very wanting to express certain colors in her lives – we do mean lives, the exact ones we just expressed – that she had to lovingly provide herself with an intent name that had the sort of sense that she wanted in her days, indeed.
The “Brings Colors” profits her, in a sense – [it] has to do with profit, as well as prophet (P-R-O-F-I-T, as well as P-R-O-P-H-E-T).
To say this another way, she has a prophecy color that has come into her life as a result of the exchange, as well as the way she found her intent name to bring colors to many individual’s lives. When she found the name, she didn’t quite know what to do about the way of spirit. She didn’t see what the words would become to many individuals, as well as to her. So she did want to express many colors, but she didn’t know at the wonderful time she expressed the intent name exactly why she did this.
So we express to you that you have many worlds in you already, as well as expressions that you wish to allow. So do so, and we’ll say that when you find your intent name, you will see very well into your future, only the future will be perhaps a bit blurry, as weany girl here as found. So do take on your intent name, for it is a very magical way to begin the process of finding your way of spirit, dear ones.
The way you can express the wonderful intentionality in each of you is how you get to say what you want to say. You want to say things that you would find treacherous at times. You want to say things that you would find to be providing of examinations of the world. You want to find ways to express the many ways that the spirit world works in each of you.
So, try to examine how you wish to move in the world, as well as how you wish to play in the world, for play is a very important thing to you, as well as to spirit, and you’ll see how to find the intent name you want to get for yourselves, indeed. So do so, and we’ll assist.
Now, dear Ursula, what do you think your intent name might be, indeed? We will have a suggestion, so don’t worry (Group laughter) that you have to be put on the spot.
URSULA: Yeah, I thought about it, and I haven’t landed on anything, so….
ROSE: Okay. We suggest that your Milumet self wants to find ways to nurture the small things in life. So when you feal[3] that you have a sense that you are getting on your path, in a sense, that will be a good clue for you, okay? So do so.
And Joyce, dear Rosalie to us, what do you think your intent name might be, dear one?
JOYCE: Okay, I’m playing with two words, and I think I’ve moved from visionary – which is in the future – to something more now, and I’m coming up with either “Herald” or “Harbinger,” that announces something is already in play – not we’re waiting for it, it’s here. So, I’m not sure which I like better – Herald or Harbinger – to me there’s differences, but those are the two I’m playing with.
ROSE: That is a very wonderful way to say that you do move into the wondrous ways that awaken in you now. For you have a sense that the future is only for you. So when you take on the world, sometimes you do get the heralding in your path, as well as in your path, in a sense of the word, in spite of how you feal about the future. We’ll explain a bit.
The Herald name is exactly the thing you’re doing now, aren’t you? You have a sense that you’re heralding in a New Age. You are, in many ways, heralding in your new life. You are also heralding in a birth of sorts that you are very much helping with. You are allowing the birth of the shift in consciousness. You could say you’re a midwife, in a sense, for the shift in consciousness, dear one.
That is perhaps a wonderful metaphor to contemplate now, because you have a real sense of the work that is needed in the world. The work is very hands-on. It is sometimes bloody. It is sometimes needing a shot of Demerol (Joanne chuckles) in the spine, in a sense. And you have a sense that [these are] exactly the things you’re doing now, aren’t they? Because you have sense that you need a shot of Demerol, or anything that allows pain to subside. You are a very wonderful nurturer, so the way of spirit for you sometimes means that you need to take a shot, in a sense.
So do take on the Demerol ways when you need to, as well as pain-free ways if you need them, because they need you to be the best midwife for the shift that you can possibly be. You are very needed in the world now, dear Rosalie, and you have sense of this always. We are only suggesting that you have more to do than you might think you do, dear one. We are making a crystal ball prediction, in a sense, but you know that your life is long now, and you do sense that you’re very much allowing more to your life than you have in the past.
So continue to think on this, and you’re correct that heralding is a good word for what you’re doing, but we suggest that the way of spirit for you is much more than that as well. Okay?
Now George, what do you think about the intent name exercise, dear one?
GEORGE: Well the only thing I can come up with is – even before I was familiar with the Rose material – it seems like I’ve always gone against the grain. I’ve always gone against the flow, and that was done instinctively. And I still feel the same way, and I feel like I’m still doing the same stuff, but now I do it more with words, conversations, and sometimes I’ll only consciously think about it, but afterwards I think about a conversation I had with somebody, and sometimes it looks like it was meant for me to drill that person somehow (Laughs) with some new ideas or something I have to share with them from my own experience, or from what I read.
So I don’t know. I don’t know if this is my intent, but this is something I’ve been doing constantly. So, that’s a possibility. Of course, my biggest intent would be to, you know, become worry-free and not to have to worry about anything else, but you’ve got to be realistic at a point (Group laughter).
ROSE: Indeed. We will suggest that when you allow the way of spirit for yourself, that you will find worry to beautifully subside. We mean beautifully in every way, for you will find that things will go better and better with your way of spirit that we are providing as teachings to all. So when you follow the really wonderful practices, you find that they will accomplish much more for you than you currently realize. So we will suggest that your intent is much more than a worry-free, wondrous life. Indeed, the worry is only what you get when you don’t follow your intent.
We suggest that you have more to you than you even imagine, dear George. You have a sense that you are finally getting to the way of spirit that is in you. In many ways, you have found a sort of plateau in life that is accomplished in many ways. You’ve dug into many kinds of experiences that you’d really like to put behind you, in some ways, and this is geanius[4] of you, for you have a sense that the wondrous world that you’ve experienced is in you, as well as in your daughter, and you have a sense that it is finally in you in ways that you can use, in a sense.
You have many experiences that would be best considered providing-of-wisdom. You have many wise ways. You have many ways of being in the world that others do cherish very much. You have a sense that you get the things done that you need to. You get the world ready, for the way of spirit is needing you to.
Don’t underestimate how much worldly advice you dispense at the moment’s notice. You do have an effect on others. You don’t always include this in your thinking, but you do. We do know this because you know we are wide, indeed. We know the things others think, dear one, and you have much effect on many individuals.
You could use a dose of satisfaction in your ways of providing voice for your ideas. You have sense, as well as sensibility, about how you speak. You have much to chortle – C-H-O-R-T-L-E – you have chortling to do. You need to laugh more, dear one. You have a great sense of humor, only you don’t always share it. Why not?
GEORGE: I’m selfish – I’m not chortly enough (Group laughter). Rose, I’m falling in love with myself after hearing you talk like that, damn. (Group laughter) I gotta go home and do a little thing for myself like…
ROSE: We’re already in love with you, dear one, George. (Group laughter)
GEORGE: …build a shrine for myself.
ROSE: Exactly. We have the shrine already in spirit, dedicated to you, dear George, we do. We love you very much. If you could see yourselves how we see you, you would have many altars to yourselves erected, indeed. We know what you’re capable of. That’s why we want you to allow more laughter into your days, because you do need this, indeed. This is a very geanius way to heal the things you need to. Laughter is, indeed, the wonderful medicine that is, in many ways, overlooked by your world, indeed.
GEORGE: Should I try to be a comedian, maybe?
ROSE: (Joanne chuckles) We suggest that you have…
PAUL: “Brings Laughter.” There’s your intent name, how’s that? (Group laughter)
GEORGE: I have to laugh at somebody. (Group laughter)
ROSE: You have many ways of being wonderful in the world. You have (Joanne chuckles) many things to share…
GEORGE: Let my ex-wife know that. (Group laughter)
ROSE: …with others. Indeed, we know….
GEORGE: (Humorously) Tell my ex – the last conversation I had with her – that I’m a really big time loser and an inadequate father and all this kind of stuff.
ROSE: Do not believe this for a second.
GEORGE: Let her put her hands in the microwave for a little bit (George laughs).
ROSE: That’s exactly why you need to allow your beautiful sense of humor into the world, dear one. You had everyone laughing just now, and you have more to share, indeed, when you want to.
GEORGE: I don’t do good in front of big audiences, only small ones, that’s why.
ROSE: We suggest that you have more in you in regard to size, indeed – audience wise, that is. (Group laughter)
GEORGE: (Humorously) On the crystal ball, Rose? I mean, don’t I have a crystal ball, too? Is the future still fuzzy? (Group laughter)
ROSE: You know better…
GEORGE: (Still laughing) Is it misty? Is it like a morning on 101 by Big Sur when there’s no fires and like that?
ROSE: You know better than to ask us a crystal ball question, dear one, don’t you?
GEORGE: Eventually the sun will burn off the clouds and stuff.
ROSE: We will say that you have more to you – in you – than you ever excellently expected. You don’t expect to do more, so you don’t. That’s true for everyone, and when you allow for your best imaginations so as to allow more of you into your world, that will be how you can find the expressions that you want to in your way of spirit, indeed. So consider that you have every bit as much as any individual everywhere, only you don’t know that yet, that’s all.
GEORGE: Rose, I work so hard at doing nothing, and it takes a lot of effort to learn to do nothing, instead of just (chuckles) going around doing stuff. So now I have to… ah Jesus.
ROSE: You can tell everyone that you have the way of spirit in you, as well as the way of spirit in them. Doing nothing is not what you’re here for, dear one, but the thing is that sometimes you do need to do exactly that – nothing. You have learned this, and this is almost a meditation in a sense – doing nothing is indeed a beautiful thing. So don’t try to say that, “Rose said that you’re not doing enough.” That’s why we’re suggesting that doing nothing is fine, too. But you need to examine, we suggest, the things you do do, to see if they’re the things that you want to do, indeed. That’s all. So do so.
And we’ll go onto the weany boy. Now we know you have a sense that we know that you have intentionality written all over you, dear one, with your little notebook (Group laughter).
ERIC: Weany boy (Group laughter)
GEORGE: [inaudible over the laughter]
ROSE: So, why do you want to not share your intent name tonight? Is it because you shared this already, dear one?[5]
PAUL: Yeah, and I want to give everyone else a chance to do their….
ERIC: Oh, go weany boy, I want to hear it.
PAUL: Oh, you haven’t heard this, Eric?
ERIC: No.
PAUL: Okay, well it is in a transcript.
ERIC: I’ll be next after you.
PAUL: Well, there’s one more to go before you – Mike’s after me. And I’m sorry – I apologize for not introducing everybody to you…
ERIC: That’s fine.
PAUL: …I’m getting my telcon etiquette back up to speed here today.
Before I share that again, I just wanted add a thought, too, back to the original question that Ursula asked, “What’s the point of this?” The point is to review the things that are the easiest that have come naturally in your life all along as a kid up through an adult, and then to objectify that – to bring it into awareness with the name, but one that is deeply meaningful.
I went through this ten years ago, and it took me over a year to settle on something. So it’s a process, and it doesn’t just, you know, it’s not a quick fix, and it’s a real introspective process. But what I’ve found when I settled on my name, it is really solid because now I’ve had nine years of, you know, when life changes and I get on this direction or I get on that direction, I go back to it and I say, “Am I still following my intent, am I doing it?” And damn, I am, because it’s broad enough to be in a broad area, and it’s very fulfilling in those times where you’re not so sure of your direction, or your having some tough times – health problems, money problems, relationship problems, whatever you’re going through – and it’ll come back to what you’re doing in life, and that intent name – it’s the me of me.
ERIC: (Impatiently) What is your intent name?
URSULA: You better get it right. (Laughs)
PAUL: So, get it right, and it’s a really powerful juju.
ERIC: “Get It Right”? (Group laughter)
PAUL: No, my intent name is “Kagid al tumbra.”
ERIC: (Unsure) And…?
URSULA: Wow! (Laughs) What’s that mean?
PAUL: Okay, there’s a whole story to it. Essentially, it’s a Sumari phrase[6] that I got in an altered state. And “Kagid” is me – it’s the me of me, so it’s my essence and focuses together.
ERIC: Mmhm.
PAUL: And “al tumbra” is a verb – an action – that Kagid is al tumbra-ing. So the “al tumbra” is what I do. And particularly in this lifetime, there’s three parts to this: one is a teacher; the second is an artist/musician, specifically; and the third part is a piercer of veils, which is exploring altered focus – drug induced and self-induced altered states.
And those are the three things that have just come naturally to me my whole life. So Kagid Al Tumbra, in a moment of epiphany, summarized all those three things, and I just, I focus a little bit more or less on one of those at any given time, and I just seem to circle back to all that stuff.
ROSE: That’s a tough act to follow, dear ones. (Group laughter)
PAUL: That’s another reason why I don’t go on.
ROSE: That’s good, dear one.
PAUL: A little humility. (Laughs)
ROSE: We’ll suggest that you have more to the name also than you may think now.
PAUL: I knew you were going to do that!
ROSE: (Joanne laughs) So try to allow more into the name when you want to consider that the name has to do with effects that you want to chreate[7] in the world.
ERIC: An intent.
ROSE: Okay? Exactly, dear one from far away. We’ll go with dear Mike now, but we’ll be with you in (Humorously) just a moment, Eric, okay? (Group laughter)
Now, onto dear one: what do you think about this exchange now? Do you think this has value for you?
MIKE: Well, yes. (Laughs)
ROSE: Okay, good.
MIKE: Am I done? (Group laughter)
ROSE: No. Now we do want to say, though, that you have some skepticism, we think, about the exercise. Don’t you, perhaps?
MIKE: I’m just thinking.
ROSE: No? Okay. We’ll say more about this in a bit.
MIKE: Well, I’ll give you a hint.
ROSE: Okay.
MIKE: Throughout my life so far I’m pretty good at shifting perspectives to the point where I can go into a belief system, and then into another one, and I do best when I’m in the middle – so like a peephole, or a bridge, or something like that. But at times I’ll retreat into what I call “human mode,” which is where I’ve been the last few weeks, which is like the anti-spiritual type of being, which you may be picking up on at the moment.
ROSE: Mmhm. Exactly.
MIKE: That’s the stressed out, overloaded, working 18 hours a day.
ROSE: Yes.
ERIC: The middle would be the point of balance.
MIKE: Right.
ERIC: So what you’re saying is you’ve been somewhat out of balance.
MIKE: Right. So the last few weeks I’m…
ERIC: That’s okay. We all go through that.
MIKE: …far out of balance. (Laughs) So, I wouldn’t call it skepticism towards the exercise, though, I would just say that’s the way I am at the moment.
ROSE: The exact way you do this is through your intent, in some ways, because your intent is, in many ways, the best way of finding balance. So your intent at times is to bring balance, and what better way to learn to do this than to experience [being] out of balance? You’re learning this now.
That’s why you try to get yourself into these kinds of situations – to learn what it’s like on one end of the seesaw, in a sense. So when you feal that you have a sense of being in balance you do what? To say the least, you find ways to get out of balance again sometimes, and when you do that you can tell yourself that you have more to do in balance than you do out of balance.
That’s why you’re chreating this, in a sense, because you do want to know what to do to get back into balance. But sometimes you may want to stay there longer to try to do the things that you want to do when you want to do them.
And in this, the intent name you could give yourself until you have found a better one is, indeed, “Healthy Balancer.” You have healthy balance to your lives. We mean “lives,” for you, because you have more than one life right now. You have family, you have friends, you have seeking, you have more friends than you could want, at times.
When you feal that you’re being overwhelmed with things, you can retreat without needing to get back in balance before you do. You can say, “I want to stay away so I can find balance.” And then you can find that, and then go back into your many lives. Okay?
So you don’t need to allow more unbalance before you find balance. You can do this when you want to, and you will see that the way of spirit will open up in ways that you’ll find exceptional. So do try to use the temporary name we’re giving you to find the name you like better, indeed. Okay, dear one?
MIKE: Okay.
ROSE: (Humorously) Now, Eric, we want to say that you have more to you, too, because you don’t always appear as a small metallic object (Eric chuckles) on the dining table, dear one. So, when you’re ready, please do share your intent name for us.
ERIC: Sure, my intent name for the longest time has been “The Watcher.” And I am the king of being out of balance, and have explored the quite wide swings in that. But, in the last year or so, it’s kind of swung back into more of a middle stage, as George right? George was speaking about?
ROSE: That was Mike.
PAUL: That was Mike.
ERIC: Mike, sorry.
ROSE: Let me introduce….
ERIC: Instead of being “The Watcher” I’ve decided to become “The Doer.”
ROSE: Exactly. What more could you want than to find a name that does something in the world? When you fear that action, you have the sort of fear that includes only names like, “Seeker” or “Healer” even. When you don’t follow the exact thing that you came here, for you ruin things for yourselves. You mean only to heal, perhaps, but you don’t allow more to that than you need to.
For example, dear ones, we’ll say that you have more to you than you can imagine. When you only say, “Healer,” what happens then? You don’t know exactly what to heal, do you? You have, sometimes, only some things in mind, but you don’t give voice to these. And when you find ways to express the very things you want to heal, then the real changes come in, and you….
ERIC: Also, another intent name for “The Doer,” would be “Speaker.”
ROSE: Exactly.
ERIC: And I have played with that as well.
ROSE: Doing, speaking are all wonderful things, but we’re suggesting that you need to be more specific, that’s all. But to say this in a way that you can feal better about – it’s a geanius first step. So, doer – doing – in many ways is exactly why you need to go forward with this kind of name right now. But we suggest that you will find something more exacting in time.
ERIC: Oh, absolutely, I have to be more specific to my intent…
ROSE: Yes.
ERIC: …overall, but you know, actually, over the last couple of weeks I’ve had quite a tumultuous time. But I think I’m seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. And there’s a lot to be said to a lot of people.
ROSE: Exactly, dear ones. You have more…
ERIC: So I’ve started that.
ROSE: …in you than meets the eye, indeed. When you feal that you have more to you than the things you think of daily, what to do about that? You could do what? When you feal more than you’re doing that day, what do you think you could do to capture that fealing to use it in ways that would befit you better?
In other words, sometimes you may feal that there’s something there that you can’t quite express that day. So what could you do to capture that fealing to say that you can incorporate it into you intent? What could you do today…
ERIC: What actions would it be?
ROSE: …to feal better about the way you could do…
ERIC: Continue my Unru writing…
ROSE: …intentionally in the future?
ERIC: …would be one of them.[8]
ROSE: Yes, indeed.
ERIC: I’ve taken a break from that after nine months.
ROSE: You could say, “Indeed, I want to do that specific thing.” Write it down – write it down even if you feal that you’ll remember it. Writing things down helps you feal better about incorporating. Indeed it, in some ways, moves you into areas that you wouldn’t if you didn’t write things down.
Another way is to allow the friends you have to get their peace of mind by getting you more. So, you could say, for example, “You know, I think you’re a friend, and I think that you could allow me to be more this way or that. Okay? So do try to let me be the self I need to be, and allow me to sometimes make mistakes, or sometimes make some small corrections to my course, and allow me to experiment in some ways that I’m not doing yet. So I’d appreciate it if you’d berth me – B-E-R-T-H me – in ways that I need right now. I need a wide berth to be however I wish to be right now. So please allow me the opportunity to be myself again,” dear ones.
Okay? So try this at home, and on friends that you have some sense will understand you when you move into new areas. You’re…
ERIC: Yes, I’m aware of that.
ROSE: …trying things out on them, and that is a gift that you can give each other, indeed. So do so, and we’ll always assist.
Now Eric, also, what things do you want to do in your future that you could incorporate into your intent name? Do you have a sense of this today, dear one?
ERIC: Teaching of some sort.
ROSE: Yes, indeed, Sumafi-boy Eric teaches like brother, indeed. Exactly.
ERIC: People are in need of a lot of information, there’s a lot of things that….
ROSE: You’re a natural teacher, you are. You have more to that aspect of yourself than you’re giving yourself credit for, indeed. Now, what else, dear one?
ERIC: Just be myself, would be pleasant.
ROSE: Oh, exactly. We think….
ERIC: Being accepted for what I am.
ROSE: Yes, that’s an excellent thing to say, because the thing to realize that you don’t always – all of you – is that you are wondrous, indeed, and when you realize this, you get the way of spirit more than any other way, indeed. So continue to trust this in yourselves, always. Now, what else do you think, Eric, are things that you’re not exactly incorporating yet, but might want to in the future?
ERIC: There’s a lot of stuff. I’ve looked into going back to school, and redoing my nursing license, I don’t know. I actually sent away for some information for that.
ROSE: Wonderful!
ERIC: You go for a course for a month, month and a half. I don’t know, there’s a lot of different things that I haven’t perceived in quite a while.
ROSE: You have a sense that healing is in you, in your intent. And you have a sense that teaching is in your intent.
ERIC: Exactly. It’s just how to express it.
ROSE: We suggest that you have more to this as well, but to think of both is a way to get the things going that you might want to, and the other things will follow. But these are – contrary to what you may think about these – the basics in you.
ERIC: Yeah, I think they’re essential.
ROSE: Exactly, essentials.
ERIC: The idea of teaching and healing.
ROSE: Exactly. You’re teaching us now, dear one, aren’t you? Indeed. So do try to take on the world in ways that you find beautiful, as well as satisfying, because this is why you want to take on your intent names – you want to try to move into areas that you have wanting to youse[9] – Y-O-U-S-E. So do so, and you’ll find that you’ll youse yourselves in ways that you’ll find wondrous, indeed. So do so, and we’ll take….
ERIC: I appreciate that.
ROSE: You’re very welcome, dear one. We will take a break, and allow your questions after we come back. Okay? Okay.
PAUL: Okay.
ROSE: Now, let’s party. (Group laughter)
PAUL: Thank you Rose.
BREAK: 5:28 PM.
RESUME: 5:59 PM.
ROSE: Telling the world that you have an intent is the most important thing about that whole exercise. To say that you have an intent in the world that is both unique to you, as well as important, is the very best thing that you can do – not only for yourselves, but also for the world, for what you have in you is needed in the world, as well as needed for you. For what more could you want than to take on the world in ways that it needs you to?
The world needs you. The world loves you. The world wants you in every way – not just to tell it to fix itself. Oh no, the world needs you to tell it that you love it, to tell it that you need it, to tell it that you want it. For the world is in need of you in every way – not just to fix it, dear ones. So tell the world what you’re here to do with it, and we’ll say more about this at a later time.
But to say that you have more to share in the world is a very gross understatement. Indeed, you need to do things that are befitting you entirely – not just parts of you. For when you close out the parts of you that need expression in the contrary world you live in, you close out the world also.
The world is you. The world wants you. The world is you, and wants you, and loves you, and you need to share you with the bigger you, indeed, the biggest you that you are – that is the world and all its creatures, indeed. So when you heal the things of the world that are very small, for example, you have more influence in ways than you can imagine, for you have more influence in ways that are astounding.
For why you would choose to start here is the point. Why not choose to begin with healing small things, for example – with healing large things, even? For what needs to be healed is, in every way, everything. So why not try to imagine that you have a sort of specialty in things? You have a sort of special view of things that is needed. You can focus on one thing or another, but the point is that you have a space to begin to do the things you want to.
So doing the small things, doing the large things, isn’t important. What’s important is that you begin, indeed, by allowing yourselves to focus on some areas of need. You have more to this than you realize. When you begin the exercise we’ve intentionally begun tonight, you’ll see that you’ll get things better. We think you need to get things in order to try things. So when you get things, you also allow more in.
Take, for example, the way you held ground with your bully, dear George. Your bully from your last experience you shared with the weany girl.[10] The bully who is your really…
GEORGE: My better half.
ROSE: …contrary half, yes. You held your ground in ways that are wondrous. You held your ground in ways that are truly helping her as well, for when you hold your ground, you hold the world, to say the least. You hold the world in your best regard, in a sense, because you say, “Hey, I’m not going to concede this, because conceding this is making the world a place that the world doesn’t want to be.”
You held your ground and you held the world in your hands when you did. You held the world only for yourself? Not at all. You held your ground for your daughter, and your world. Everything that you had in mind was in mind for the world, too. You held your ground in ways that disallowed one bully to take on the world, in a sense.
So when she found ways to treat others that were not correct, she was taking on the world in ways that you found to need protection, in a sense. So you held the world in the highest regard when you took her on.
This was a very heroic event in some ways. Having the gall to say that the world doesn’t need you is not what Rose will say. The world does need you, but to some individuals this may sound anathema, because the world doesn’t need you in some ways, but the world does need to have you in it, in every way.
So when you feal that you’re not able to take on the entire world, know that you do when you do things that are indeed truly heroic like you did. You had the world in your purview in many ways. So do continue to acknowledge to yourself, dear one, that you held the world in your hands in those moments, and you did.
You held ground for goodness. You held ground for compassion. You held – contrary to your beliefs possibly – you held the world hostage before, when you didn’t allow yourself to believe that you could change things. So do try to imagine that you have more in the world needing you than you may think of right now. Okay? So do so, and we’ll suggest that you have many questions, dear ones, and we’ll assist in answering them, indeed.
(Pause) Do say what’s on your mind, dear ones. (Laughter) Okay, dear George, do tell.
GEORGE: Dear, Rose. Well, actually, I’m getting more comfortable with you, Rose.
PAUL: Yeah, it takes time. (Laughs)
GEORGE: Yeah, because you kind of screwed up my life for a little bit. (Group laughter)
ROSE: Geanius boy. We did that to tell you how much we care about you, and you know that.
GEORGE: Thank you. (Humorously) You know what? That made me remember that my father used to beat the crap out of me, and he says, “I’m beating you because I love you.” (Group laughter) And I said, “What? Are you stupid?!” But I couldn’t say that because then he’ll beat me more, so I could just bite my tongue and lick my wounds. But I say, “Rose is kind of giving me the same kind of love.”
ROSE: We won’t beat you too much more, we promise, dear George, indeed.
GEORGE: But, the funniest thing is that I find the smallest things to have a really big impact on me. So I don’t know if I’m making a big stink out of it, or they truly are, or I’m a little bit more open to it. I was telling Paul earlier, I had an incident with this baby hawk. And when that baby hawk looked into my eyes, I felt naked. I said, “I have such a connection with this animal!” And the eye just penetrated, and I felt this togetherness with this baby hawk.
ERIC: Maybe you were seeing yourself through the hawk’s eyes?
GEORGE: Well, let me see what Rose is going to say first. So, it had a big impact on me, because this brings up a lot of other stuff where like, I don’t want to get out of my car, I say, “That thing’s not going to let me catch him,” you know?
PAUL: George, tell the story of what happened.
GEORGE: Well, I assume she knows.
PAUL: Okay. Well the…
GEORGE: Do you know Rose?
PAUL: …readers of the transcript….
ERIC: Share.
GEORGE: Oh, okay. Alright, well I have a little storage place in Newhall, and I was driving out of the gate, and I saw this fluffy thing hitting itself against this chain-link fence. So I almost didn’t want to stop, so I finally made a u-turn, and I came, and I saw this bird, which was a baby hawk, trying to take flight and couldn’t. Obviously it had been there for awhile, there was like twenty, thirty people around at any given time, but nobody really, you know – I’m not being judgmental, probably nobody saw it. I don’t know.
So I went, and I kind of was scared, but I went, and he let me pick him up, which was really funny. Then I got in my car and I stuck him out the window, and I was driving with him on my hand. (Laughs) I knew he was dehydrated, so I gave him some water, and he let me give him water, and he was very nice.
And then he just looked in my eyes for like, I don’t know, a couple of seconds, but it seemed like a really long time, and I was shaken up. So I held him for a little bit, and I felt that he was going to be okay. So I just put him on this branch on the street next to this dry wash, and I just watched him for a while. He took another look at me, and I took off.
But for like two days, I was like really affected. It had this influence on me, so I was like, “Am I making a big stink about this stuff?” But I don’t think I am because I kind of go more by feeling nowadays. If it feels right, maybe it’s okay – it’s the right intuition. So Rose, please tell me. [Inaudible]
ROSE: We think that Eric did get the answer, in a way, but we will expound a bit also, okay? So you had a wondrous moment that had the bird in you, in a sense. Was this correct to say, that the bird held you in itself, and you held the bird in you? Would this be an accurate assessment of how this fealt, dear one?
GEORGE: Yes, it was a unity.
ROSE: That’s exactly right. The bird held you inside herself, as well as you held the bird inside you. This was an experiment for you in compassion in a way you haven’t realized before. There is compassion in you, of course, but this was a sort of lesson that is not fully realized any day of the week. It was extraordinary, indeed.
You had a sort of exchange with the bird that was in every way a continuation of the deepest self you know already. You can think of the deepest self as your essence, but the bird, in some respects, is also essence. You had an exchange of sorts with essence when you looked into the eye of the bird.
So when you realized that the bird was you in every way, you didn’t need to think this, but you did sense this. The bird is you. Everything is you, but you can’t know this unless you have a sense of it, and it is in these moments of extraordinary beauty that you get this lesson, and you did.
So when you think of the bird now, think of the bird as your essence telling you how very exquisite the world is – that it would look at the bird with the same compassion that it looks at you. The exchange is extraordinary to you, but is only a small peek at what the essences do toward you always. It is in every way a glimpse of how essence tells you how very loved you are when you allow that to become the reality of your knowing.
So if you ever feal blue, if you ever feal that you are not doing well enough, remember the way you fealt when you looked into the eyes of that bird, and remember that essence feals that way for you always.
This is the lesson here – that you realize how very loved, as well as cared for that you are. This is why you chose the bird, too. You have flight coming to you in your future. You can fly more than you may realize, too, dear one. So when you feal the need to escape from your pen also, the bird can help you realize how to do that, because essence will indeed also help you to escape from the pen of your own beliefs. These aren’t bad things.
ERIC: Paul I’m really fading.
ROSE: They are only limiting. Okay, dear one?
Now, what was that, Eric?
ERIC: I really can’t hear anything. I don’t know if the microphone is near, you know, whatever the phone, or, are you turning your head? Or you’re…?
GEORGE: Nothing changed Eric. It’s the same.
PAUL: (Gets up to check the audio equipment) Hang on a minute.
ERIC: Say that again.
ROSE: Hold on a minute, dear one.
ERIC: That was clear.
GEORGE: Hey Eric, you had it right.
ERIC: Okay. You had it right, too! (Laughter)
ROSE: Exactly. You both had it right, and you did find that the experience was overwhelming to you, right, dear one? You had a sense that there was more to that bird than met the eye, literally, you did.
GEORGE: Yeah.
ROSE: And you did find meaning there in every way. Now, when you found that no one else wanted to help the bird, what did you feal then? You had what? Judgment. You did… (Joanne laughs knowing where Rose is going.)
GEORGE: What actually angered me more was that I tried to tell my friend who’s there about the incident, and he said, “No, you should of just stomped it out, just step on it and kill it and get rid of it.” And I said, “You know, I’ve got to leave.” So I got up from my friend and left. (Laughing) And this is a person that I have, like, 400 focuses with. (Group laughter)
ROSE: That’s why you had her jump in when you did.
GEORGE: So I didn’t try to be so consciously judgmental. The thing is, I’m creating my own reality, so probably I put this bird here to give myself a message, so….
ROSE: You did, indeed. And you did judge, and….
GEORGE: So I assume that nobody else saw the bird, or, that’s what….
ROSE: There’s nothing wrong with judging. And the case of the bird – you did need to take action. You know this now. You did want to do this. You took action in ways that others did not.
Now, there’s nothing wrong with judging. There’s nothing wrong with saying, “Hey, you can do better than that.” There’s nothing wrong with realizing that individuals sometimes need to be reminded of their value, as well as the way they have of doing great things.
So when you judge, it’s not always because you don’t feal they’re doing well enough – you may feal that they can do better, but what better way to honor them than to say, “I know you’re great when you allow yourself to be.” So do take on the individuals who don’t take action in regard to assisting with small things suffering. Indeed, there’s only the best to have come through them when you do. Okay?
You’re actually honoring them, in a sense, when you do. Try to keep that in mind. They can do better, and to say you can’t do better is not the point. That won’t help anyone.[11] So do so, and we’ll continue to get some responses from you, George, or we’ll ask again if you have any questions?
PAUL: I have a question, Rose. Elias talks about a “Gift of Rose” with bird imagery. Is this a gift of Rose?
ROSE: (Joanne chuckles) You’re wanting to imply that we had [something] to do with this, but we didn’t in ways that will have some realizing of understanding of Rose – only to say that we are in all birds. So it is always a gift of Rose. In this case, there was no more than usual. That’s all. We’re always in every bird. As Elias has said, we have a fleck of us in every bird who ever lived and whoever will live, as well.[12]
GEORGE: Rose, are you in squirrels, too? (Group laughter)
I have to apologize. I ran over a squirrel. I can still hear the crunch – I’m not trying to be funny or gross, but it haunts me for about half a year now. And I (Laughs) want to get rid of that image. And I didn’t mean to do it. The ground squirrel at the last moment went under my rear wheels and there was nothing for me to do. I had no defense whatsoever, but I was telling Sarah a while back – I said, “I can’t get this sound out of my head.”
Do you remember?
SARAH: (Laughs) Yes.
GEORGE: It haunts me, and the same thing with the little rabbit after a while. I couldn’t avoid him – another car was coming, or something happened. I think I was trying to make a phone call, I don’t know.
ERIC: Alright. I have a newsflash. If you couldn’t avoid it, then that’s just what was supposed to happen.
GEORGE: But I can’t get rid of that crunching…. (Sarah chuckles)
PAUL: That’s part of the creation, too. It brings attention to your driving, and your presence when you drive, and other creatures.
GEORGE: (Talking at the same time as Paul) I feel that guilt, that I guilt I feel is…
ROSE: First of all, we will absolve you of any wrongdoing…
ERIC: (Laughs) Right, there you go. Me too!
ROSE: …as Eric just said, yes. And we’ll also say that you had no choice, so you don’t need to feal guilty. But you do need to allow yourself to realize that the sound was, in every way, part of the chreation, as you know. The sound was the sound of your heart breaking. Your heart broke a bit that day when you hit the squirrel. You heard the sound and what did you do? You felt bad for the squirrel, and why? Because the squirrel is you, dear one.
You held that squirrel in such high regard that we could just cry with gratitude at how very beautiful that expression is. You held that poor squirrel in your heart in ways that are everything that you are here to learn. For when you realize that you have more to you than you can imagine, that is when the heartbreak begins, in a sense. We’ll explain.
You are essence, and you have many ways of telling yourselves that you’re essence. And when you fully realize things, at times, is when you get this in your psyches, or your beings. In every way you can, you learn things that are truly heartbreaking at times, and when your hearts are broken is when the best teachings occur, for when you’re brokenhearted, that’s when you understand that you’re more than you seem to be.
What could make your heart break? Indeed, what could make you fully realize that you’re not only skin and bones – but you’re everything that you see – but heartbreak?
When you hear the sound of pain in an individual who is suffering, when you hear crying, when you hear angry words, you have the sort of responses that we consider essence-like: you hurt, you have pain when there is absolutely not a reason in the world to have pain. Why would you suffer if another suffers, indeed, even a poor defenseless squirrel who knew only the road ahead of him?
What makes you feal for him, dear ones? Your compassion. Your compassion is what makes you human, as well as godlike. Your compassion has the most expressive-of-essence way about it that you can hope to find in your lives.
When you exchange with essence you get, sometimes, heartache, as you feal so greatly for the world that you could simply burst open. And when you do, is when you realize how we love you. You realize how we care about every hair on your head. Indeed, the bible verse about the gods in you caring about every hair on your head and every feather in the coat of a bird is exactly true.[13]
We care about every moment of every day that you live. So why you would feal about a bird the way you did is why we feal about you, because you’re correct that God is Love, and you’re correct that you’re gods-in-training, in a sense.
You have more to you than you can possibly realize in one lifetime. That’s why it takes so many to learn the lessons that you do. So enjoy your beautiful expressions of compassion, and try not to fear when your heart breaks, for that’s only your way of finding yourselves in spirit as gods, indeed, as we do with you. So do so, and we’ll always be here to remind you of your beauty, indeed.
Now, another question? We didn’t mean to stop the show. (Group laughter)
PAUL: That was beautiful.
ROSE: We want to allow your heartaches, as well as your laughter. They are expressions that are, in many ways, the same sides of the same coin. Indeed, not only different sides of the same coin, for laughter is a way to open your hearts, too, and heartaches are sometimes ways to allow fear to become transparent, in a sense.
When you allow heartache to take over yourselves, you also allow things to happen in you that maybe you wouldn’t have previously. So allow your heartaches, because they want you to allow them to teach you.
So when you feal that the bones of small beings are something to be cherished, that my dear ones is the greatest expression that you could possibly provide yourselves, indeed. So do so, and we’ll always be there to ease your suffering as well, for you don’t need to become seriously concerned about suffering. There are ways that you can exchange with essence in ways that are suffering-free, in many ways. There are things that essence does to relieve the burden of suffering in animals, too.
So don’t worry that animals suffer much – they don’t. They have ways to allow fear to move them into areas they need to be, but you don’t need to worry that the fear takes over their lives, as the fear often takes over your lives. They know fear is a friend. So when they fear, it is typically very briefly, and then they move onto other things. And when they need to become non-physical, there are subtle ways that essence does allow them to not suffer, as you do, also.
Don’t worry that the squirrel suffered, dear George, he didn’t, indeed – under your wheels, that is. And when you get this heartbreaking sound again, try to remember that there is no need to fear the heartache that the fear of suffering causes you. Okay, dear ones?
Now, what more can we talk about this evening?
URSULA: Did that squirrel agree to come into that scenario with George at some level? Or the hawk or the bird that hit my windshield once a long time ago and haunted me for a long time? (Group laughter)
ROSE: Exactly. There are many friends in spirit that you always have and you get their teachings, also. The reason you have fear that the birds suffer, for example, is that you don’t want to suffer either. But don’t worry, they did not so much, and you’re correct, they did do so for a reason that you also agreed to when you signed up for that event, indeed. So realize that you did not victimize the bird, you only allowed it to express itself in ways that it wanted to.
URSULA: So they’re co-creators like us, in a sense?
ROSE: They don’t co-chreate in the same way that individuals do, but there is a sort of co- chreation that exists in animals, too, yes. They do allow themselves to be actors in your show, in a sense, indeed.
URSULA: Aren’t we in their show, too?
ROSE: The way you can think of animals is in supporting roles. So they have a sort of supporting role in your lives that they won’t take center stage, ever – that is for essence. But this is tricky ground because they are also essence in Rose’s book, but to say they are the stars isn’t accurate to us.
Now, what more can we say about small things, dear ones? You have cats. You have dogs. You have plants. You have weeds. You have…
PAUL: Ants, insects, bacteria…
URSULA: Worms!
ROSE: Mmhm.
PAUL: …microbes.
ROSE: Those are very small things, indeed. The microbes have a sort of sense about themselves. They love you, they do. They don’t want to express sorrowful ways to treat you to diseases, but they do need you to realize things that you don’t sometimes. So microbes, germs, bacteria, and all sorts of bugs and weasels in the microscopic world do tell you things that you wouldn’t know ordinarily.
So don’t think of them as enemies. Indeed, they’re not, and they know you better than you know yourselves sometimes, dear ones, as your animals do, also. Now we will suggest that you’re ready to take on the microbes when they tell you to get a doctor’s note to stay home from school, (Group chuckles) but to say that you’re needing to tell them to go away isn’t necessary. They need you to understand that they’re there for a reason, also, dear ones. They have roles to play…
ERIC: They’re part of the web of life.
ROSE: Exactly.
ERIC: We need them.
ROSE: Yes.
ERIC: We couldn’t exist without bacteria, and germs, and so forth. There are beneficial bacteria in your gut that you work with in symbiosis with constantly. You’re just not aware of it. …
ROSE: Beautifully said, dear one.
PAUL: (Humorously) So when we run them over we shouldn’t…?
ERIC: No, it’s all protection of your own. It’s part of yourself. This is part of the web of life we’ve all created. This is not destruction of, you know, or, enemy or something.
ROSE: (Humorously) No Lysol, indeed, (Group laughter) is needed to wipe them away, for they are here for you.
ERIC: It’s as much as your hand is to you. I mean, they provide critical services, basically.
ROSE: Services is a very good word for what they do, and you’ll do well to allow yourselves to be, in every way, beholden to them as role models, for you do need to be of service to the world also, as they are, indeed.
(Humorously) Be your own microbe, dear ones, and serve your own hosts in ways that you’ll find beautiful. Now, doesn’t this sound endearing, indeed? We don’t think so, but you get our point – that they do serve the purpose. They have intent, in some ways, as well as they have a means to grow that are suggesting that you have, too.
So you can grow like microbes do when they spawn. You can refract yourselves, in some ways, so you can tell yourselves to take more paths than you can currently imagine. You have the ability to spawn alternate realizations of selves. You have more selves to you than you can imagine – you have alternate selves who took paths that you did not. You have ways of finding out their activities in ways that will surprise you.
In getting your way of spirit you will need to make choices that, in some ways, may not be simple, but the thing to remember is that you have many selves who do the things you won’t do this time around. So take heed to talk to them every now and then to tell them what you’re up to, and they’ll return the favor and help you to feal that you don’t need to do everything in this lifetime. You can find ways to choose the things you really want to do, and leave the rest for them to do, dear ones.
Now we’ll say also that you have many probable lives in many other dimensions, and these have ways of telling you the things that you may need to feal, also. They have ways to help you follow your bliss, because they have ways of getting into your heads that are funny. When you feal that you’re [connecting with] some other essences, in a sense, they may be you in another dimension. They may be you in an alternate reality. You are, in many ways, dispersed in every time period you can imagine, perhaps, as well as dimension.
So you can think of your intentionality as a common ground for all of you, in every way, and then you can find ways to allow yourselves to get the aligned-with[14] to allow you to feal out what you want to do this time around.
We’ll say more about this at another time, but we do want to say also, that the dinner (Joanne chuckles) was wonderful tonight. Why is that? (Group laughs as Eric claps over the phone) Why was the dinner so great tonight, dear ones? Do you realize what we’re saying here?
PAUL: Because there was no sausage? (Group laughs)
ERIC: Can I take a stab?
ROSE: There’s always room for sausage, dear ones, indeed. (Laughter)
PAUL: That was a joke.[15]
ROSE: Now we will say that there was an energy that was inherent in the room that you all brought, and also, who else was here for your conversation?
GEORGE: Eric.
ROSE: And?
PAUL: Eric and Sarah.
ROSE: Sarah was here.
PAUL: And Rumi the cat.
ROSE: And wasn’t that wonderful to have Sarah here for the conversation? (Sarah giggles) In every way she did participate in ways that were truly wonderful. She helped the flow in a beautiful way, and she is… why? (Chuckles) And she is… why? (Pause)
(To Sarah) She is Ilda belonging-to[16] – she has a sort of connect-the-dots tone to her. She has a sense that all things are groovy at any given time, and she brings that into the situation she’s in always – even when she’s not fealing that she is. So when you feal, Sarah, that you’re not contributing, you need to understand that you always are, even if you don’t think so. Okay, dear one?
And you’ll find that also the hat helps a great deal, indeed. (Group laughter) So when you feal the need to allow yourself to wear that hat proudly, do so.
PAUL: Eric, you can’t see it, but Sarah is George’s daughter, and she wasn’t with us for the first half, but she came in wearing a very cool top-hat, and she lent it to Joanne….
ERIC: Like a top-hat – black, tall, thin, like top-hat? Or a western hat?
GEORGE: (Humorously) A gangster hat.
PAUL: Like a “gansta” hat – brown with white lines, stripes on it – and she lent it to Joanne and Rose for the second half.
URSULA: A pinstripe fedora.
PAUL: There you go, a pinstripe fedora, and she lent it to Joanne for the second half. And she was looking very chic in it.
ROSE: That’s exactly right, that she is a beautiful girl inside and out no matter what she wears, indeed. So do take on the world, Sarah dear, and allow yourself to connect the dots in a big way, okay? Okay.
We’ll say adieu for tonight, unless there are any additional questions?
PAUL: I have a question.
ROSE: Okay.
PAUL: It’s sort of a thread here related to what you were talking about earlier and several weeks ago. It’s an ontological question. It’s about this difficult-for-me-to-grasp, still, relationship of animals to focus personalities to essence within the larger – what Eric was calling “web of life” – within All-That-Is as a singularity.
And according to Elias, and this is something that took me years to understand, he says that essence creates all in terms of the physical dimensionality. So all the microbes, all the dirt, all the nebula clouds that turn into suns and solar systems, and then biospheres, and then focuses of essence, are all manipulated by essence.
Therefore – and maybe I’m answering the question myself – they are all essence in that sense. And yet, in purely physical terms – in what Seth calls Framework 1, Elias Regional Area 1 terms, there’s quite a difference between animals and humans. Elias also says that animals are not of essence – they are not connected in that regard – so when they die quickly under George’s tire, or Ursula’s windshield…
ERIC: Reconstitute into another existence.
PAUL: …they’re not going into a transition…
ERIC: Transition.
PAUL: …experience like focuses are. I’m just putting that out there. So Rose when you say, “In your book, animals are of essence,” can you clarify that in relation with everything I just said.
ROSE: You’re correct that essence is in everything that you chreate in your reality, but the animals also are essence when you consider that they are in your reality, okay?
So you’re wanting us to distort the teachings in ways that will be funny, as you will not get a straight answer from us. You need to allow yourselves to fearlessly move into this area intuitively to get your response, okay? So do so.
GEORGE: Could I ask a – regarding all this – question please? Well, everything around us reflects us, I assume.
ROSE: You’re correct.
GEORGE: So how does this work? I have Delilah, for instance, right? I just noticed that I get these hip pains occasionally, and then she gets, like, a bum leg for a while. I say, “Well maybe she’s trying to tell me something” – I don’t know what, but I get a thing in my hip, she starts dragging her leg once in a while and I can take her out. Sometimes she’s perfectly fine when she drags her leg and then she just sprints for, you know, a hundred yards and comes back again, I said, “What the hell’s wrong with you?” – nothing.
ERIC: Is this a dog?
GEORGE: Yeah.
ERIC: Yes, okay, I’ve had very similar experiences. I have a Shetland sheepdog (Kimba) and it had heel problems, and it’s the funniest thing – the dog will reflect that and then at the next moment, like you said, sprint fifty yards across the backyard chasing a squirrel with no problem. I don’t how to explain it, but I’ve had that same experience.
GEORGE: My question is: what is going on through this mind that reflects to me? Do I make her lame for a little bit with my energy? I think she’s a very intelligent being, and she’s very smart, but what’s the mechanics of all this? She says, “Well I’m going show you. I know you have a hip pain,” or I guess you understand my question. I can’t really phrase it.
ERIC: They’re so empathetic, I think, in my understanding – that’s how I look at it. They’re so empathetic that they actually will experience it for a short period of time. Or even other more dramatic things like cancer – and they will go through it as opposed to you going through it. I mean, that’s just simply my idea.
PAUL: So is it a mirror action of some kind?
ERIC: Yes, I would agree.
ROSE: You’re correct that the empathic connection is important to assure yourselves of, because you have this ability, also. You have the sense that empathy does move into areas of astounding connections with each other and your animals. This is a very important component to reality chreation.
Now, to get to the question that you had about who you are when you say that you have your doggy be lame. Who are you when you say this? You, George, helps her be lame to show you George? That you need to pay attention to something? No. You are essence. So when you say that you help her be allowing herself to reflect to you George, you would be essence, okay? Not ego.
You chreate your reality means you as essence. This includes George, too. So you need to be specific about who you are when you discuss yourselves, indeed, for your widest self does allow the chreation to occur in conjunction with your smaller self.
You could say that lameness is what the impact is, but the sontering[17] of fear is what the cause is. Your fearfulness is what is doing the harm, not the lameness – that’s just a symptom of the fear. Okay?
GEORGE: In me, or the dog?
ROSE: Both. She’s reflecting the fear back to you in ways that are the same as….
GEORGE: So I gotta find out what the fear is?
ROSE: Yes.
ERIC: Oh, there you go.
ROSE: Same with you, Eric, dear one.
ERIC: Of course.
MIKE: On the same topic…
ERIC: I had a very similar experience.
MIKE: …you used the term fleck earlier. I have, for example, a lot of animals. And some of my animals, I would say, have flecks of other essences’ energy. Like, I have one cat that acts exactly like my nephew. So I think my nephew’s essence contributed a fleck to that pet of mine. Does that make sense?
ROSE: You’re correct that the fleck is what you have chreated, but the essence helps to do that. You chreated the fleck, in some ways, but the essence contributed the essence. You opened the door, in a sense, yes.
We will suggest that you all do this, always, but you don’t always realize that essences are very mixed into the realities you chreate, also. So essences have mixtures always – not just one-to-one as Elias [says] they do. This is an important teaching, but it’s not exactly the entire picture always.
You could say that you’re correct in summarily dismissing Rose when she says that Elias is incorrect, but she is only telling you this to tell herself that Elias is incorrect. We’re wanting to allow laughter, but this isn’t a very good joke. (Group laughter)
We are Elias. Your Elias is an example of an exchange that is summarily profound. Sonter Elias now to get the answer you need, for Elias has his expression here tonight. Be Elias now. For a moment, let’s just experiment with Elias now. What would Elias say is the point of flecks?
PAUL: I think it’s to show the interconnectedness of essence and what he calls Dream Walkers[18] – a specific function as pertaining to physical manifestation within the natural world, what we think of as nature, outside of us, animals, and the rest of the biosphere that creates a supportive environment that focuses of essence can live in.
ROSE: (Humorously) You’re exactly right that Elias would say something very wordy like that indeed. (Group laughter)
ERIC: It’s in his Sumafi nature.
ROSE: Yes, indeed! Now, what is Sumafi nature, dear ones?
ERIC: Very detailed, very specific.
ROSE: Really now? Indeed.
GEORGE: No, what’s that called? No distortion.
ROSE: Distortion-less.
ERIC: Right.
ROSE: Yes.
PAUL: The least distortion.
ROSE: And what is the way of spirit for you to take on? Distortion is required to be in the world, correct?
PAUL: Absolutely.
ROSE: So Elias is distorted, in many ways – he admits this. So let’s not get into too much about distortion, but we’ll only say that…
ERIC: Hairsplitting.
ROSE: …yes, distortion-free teachings is why Elias does what he does. Donning Elias’ hat for a moment, we’ll say also that Elias would say that he is correct, that fear gets into the way of spirit, and to say that fear doesn’t is the point, also.
Fear does get into the distortion business quite quickly when you realize that fear gets distortion … fear gets … sorry … fear gets distortion in the way of realizing that distortion isn’t the purpose of life. Sometimes fear gets distorted in ways that are not accurate. We will go back a few (Joanne chuckles) sentences, sorry.
PAUL: (Humorously) Yeah. Scratch that last paragraph.[19]
ROSE: We are only saying that Elias has ways to fear less than you do. Why would he do so? He’s essence, correct? He is wanting to tell you the view from that side. So he has a perspective that you don’t, right? So you are essence, he is essence – only not as fearful as you are perhaps – and he has ways of finding value in telling you things that you can’t know because you fear.
Now, when he says, “Flecks exist in birds,” why does he do this? As you said: to tell you about the interconnectedness of all things. Why does Rose tell you the same things? To teach you that her ways are in every bird.
Now, does Elias say he is in every bird? No. We are, though. Why is this important? Because we’re not Elias, but we are Elias, also.[20]
Your wanting to be contrarily getting separate views of reality is why you chreate essence. You’re wanting to express the differences in life, in a sense, that are really not always there. There are some differences in intent only. That’s why you want to allow yourselves to get the intentionality into your own lives. That’s the point of the teachings of both Rose and Elias – so you can understand and appreciate the differences in the very important intents in life.
So do take on the birds, in a sense, to tell you how to be beautifully chreating your lives. They know better than you, at times, how to do this, and you can express to yourselves that they are essence, as we are, as you are, as the beautiful rabbits under your wheels are, indeed. And you’ll do well to realize that when you fear, you are only getting the way of finding differences between essences, that’s all. That’s all you need to know for now about the flecks (Joanne chuckles) in birds, dear ones. Okay?
ERIC: Thank you Rose.
ROSE: So do so, dear ones, and we’ll begin to end our beautiful evening together with you, and we’ll suggest that you do want to do your intent name homework for next session. Okay, dear ones? And we’ll ask you to be very specific, also. It doesn’t matter that you get this right the first time. The thing is to begin, okay? So do so, and we’ll assist always.
Now, we’ll say, dear ones, “Goodnight and adieu.”
PAUL: Thank you Rose.
ROSE: You’re very welcome.
URSULA: Yay!
(Rose departs: 7:07 PM.)
(Transcribed by Andrew McCusker, August 05, 2008.)
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Endnotes
[1] Paul’s note: During the previous session our central air-conditioning unit was dying, and it was around 115 degrees outside, making the indoor temperature in the mid-90s by the end of a shortened session. Needless to say, it was difficult to concentrate.
[2] Paul’s note: For more info, see the Discover Your Intent Name Practice.
[3] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of feel and real. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[4] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of genes and genius. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[5] Paul’s note: Rose began discussing the importance of understanding our intentionality in our first Potluck Dinner and group session, in which I explained my intent name. For more info, see Session 225, February 16, 2008.
[6] Paul’s note: Sumari is one of the nine families of consciousness introduced by Seth in The “Unknown” Reality, Vol. 2 (1979), but it is also a trance language used by Jane Roberts to express inner knowledge through pantomime and song during her ESP classes, as well as poetry in an altered state. For more info, see Adventures in Consciousness (1975) by Jane Roberts.
[7] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of Christ and create. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[8] Paul’s note: Eric began an energy exchange with Unru via autotyping during a visit to us in Castaic, CA last July. Both Kris and Rose verified that this is an energy exchange. He has engaged over sixty sessions to date. For more info, see The Act of Being Human.
[9] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of you and use. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[10] Joanne’s note: George had been telling me in the kitchen that he had stood up to his bully ex-wife by saying he’d consider taking legal action if she was to continue her activities.
[11] Paul’s note: Rose addressed the extreme relativistic belief system that claims “there is no good or bad” in Absolute terms. That statement is what we call a performative contradiction because it makes an unstated judgment that ALL judgments are bad. In other words, it claims there’s no good or bad while assuming that all judgments of good or bad ARE BAD. The point is that we need to better understand what values and belief systems we use to make our judgments, and to make them with care, concern, and compassion for self and others. For more info, see Rose Colored Glasses.
[12] Paul’s note: According to Elias, Rose in her role as a progenitor essence projected an energy fleck into all birds.
ELIAS: I shall express to you, all of you are participating in this shift in consciousness, and as you are aware, the families of consciousness of the Borledim and the Vold are – in a manner of speaking – directing this shift in consciousness, and within that movement, as you each individually are allowing yourselves to open and widen your awareness, you are also allowing yourselves imagery and confirmations, in a manner of speaking, of the movement of energy within this shift as it continues.
Many individuals allow themselves the manifestation of imagery in conjunction with the Borledim family, in the recognition of their particular direction in this shift. Therefore, the essence of Rose is the one essence that you have allowed yourselves to create an identification with – in your objective recognition – in conjunction with the movement of this shift. You offer to yourselves imagery in the form of birds many times, for this is an objective expression of this particular essence of Rose, in which it chooses to offer physical manipulations of energy.
Now; the interaction that individuals create in the imagery of birds is not necessarily continuously an individual expression of the actual essence of Rose. But in a manner of speaking, generally, the essence of Rose projects energy which is manipulated within your physical dimension in conjunction with all of the creations of birds in any form within this physical dimension.
Therefore, as I express to different individuals that they are allowing themselves imagery or connecting to the energy of the Borledim family – or I may be expressing that you are receiving imagery in conjunction with the essence of Rose – ALL of your creatures that are identified as birds within this dimension hold an energy fleck, so to speak, of this essence of Rose, for this is the choice of that essence, to be projecting energy into this particular species within this dimension.
This particular essence holds an affinity for this particular manifestation of consciousness. In like manner to yourselves within physical focus and your preference to a dog or a cat or a bird, this particular essence holds an affinity for the manifestations physically expressed of birds within this physical dimension.
This is not an uncommon expression of essences, that they may identify a particular affinity, so to speak, with a particular type of physical manifestation within an individual physical reality. It may be an expression of rocks, it may be an expression of crystals, it may be an expression of mountains, of water, of a particular creature – this is a physical expression of energy that they hold a preference within its configuration of energy within the physical dimension.
Also in like manner to your preferences to music or to different tones or different artistic expressions, these are all very similar expressions that you all create as essences, and as I express, this particular essence of Rose projects an aspect, a fleck of energy into all of the physical manifestations of birds within this physical dimension; this also being quite purposeful in the actual physical participation of this dimension without creating an actual physical manifestation – before this point in your linear time framework – of focuses. ~ Session 502, November 11, 1999
[13] Joanne’s note: Rose is putting a spin on a bible quote, possibly one that has through various translations turned into Luke 12:6-7 where Jesus says, “Are not five sparrows sold for a few pennies? Yet not one of them is neglected by God. In very truth, even the hairs of your head are counted!”
[14] Paul’s note: According to Rose, our essence belongs-to and our physical self aligns-with one of the nine family of consciousness intents. Taken together, they provide useful insights into what our purpose in life is, and our way of spirit. For more info, see Intentionality and Families of Consciousness.
[15] Paul’s note: George has been bringing fresh sausages to the Potluck Dinners and we had a hilarious exchange a month earlier with all kinds of sausage imagery and jokes. It was one of the first times the group really let its collective hair down with Rose, and we laughed a lot! For more info, see Session 255, June 07, 2008.
[16] Paul’s note: Rose referred to one of the nine families of consciousness introduced by Seth and greatly expanded by Elias. For more info, see families of consciousness and Digests: essence families; an overview.
[17] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words). Sontering is “the breathing in of essence,” and involves a kind of empathic mergence with the object of sontering. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[18] Paul’s note: Dream Walkers are aspects of essence involved with the design and monitoring of the “blueprints for reality” for our multiverse. As such, they are deeply involved in the creation of our multiverse, Big Bang, and related involutionary/evolutionary unfoldings. Seth called them Sleepwalkers, and Kris called them Dream Ancestors. For more info, see Digests: Dream Walkers; an overview.
[19] Paul’s note: This is a good example of when Joanne gets too involved with the delivery (perhaps in this case because of her own fear of distorting the content, in some ways proving the point Rose was making), and Rose begins to conflate the sentence structure and tell weany girl to “get out of the way, and allow.”
[20] Paul’s note: To better understand Rose’s perspective when she makes Zen-like statements, “We’re not Elias, but we are Elias,” please review the chart in endnote 29 in Session 255 that shows how Rose is related, in terms of essence fragmentation, to Elias and other essences. For more info, see Session 255, June 07, 2008.