“Discover New Ways to Celebrate”
“Until Women Bond, Changes Won’t Occur”
“Birthing Goddesses, Tarts on the Town”
“Healping People Do What They Want is the Most Important Work”
“Follow-Up on the Surprise Exercise”
Saturday, April 11, 2009
Session 350 (Group/Dinner & A Dead Gal)
Participants: Joanne (Tyl), Paul (Caroll), Joyce (Rosalie), Caryn (Hayo), Denise (Andies), Nardine (Daisy), Gordon (Gilbert), and Rumi the cat.
(Rose Arrives: 4:37 PM. Arrival time 19 seconds.)
ROSE: You have a sense this is a special evening, for the Easter ceremonies have taken place forever, you might say, in your way of finding the moon in orbit around your planet. These are days of fasting, then allowing the feasting to begin to draw you closer together, rather than apart, as fasting sometimes does. So you have a sense this is the point that is your Easter celebrations, as well as your Easter potentials, like your Passover, for example. This is another example of the lunar allowances helping you towards your ways of finding value in your circles, you might say. So you have a sense these are the times to rejoice in your beautiful expressions, indeed.
You have a sense there are reasons to have many more types of these sorts of celebrations, but you don’t always allow them for fear there are too many at times. They may get in your way of doing the work in the world, or in allowing things other than allowances for celebrations into your wonderful lives. But we suggest there are reasons to want to do this more often than you do, so as to allow yourselves to best achieve – as funny as that sounds –the kinds of potentials in the world you need to.
The women of your world have always been the ones to achieve this in ways that you’ll discover in your future times, for these need to be updated in a very big way. Why not begin today with why you have reason to celebrate this evening? Okay?
We’ll open up the floor to your beautiful as well as practical reasons. We aren’t looking for the “changing world” types of things, only the, maybe, small things that you’ve achieved in the passing days recently, dear ones, okay? Please say a few words.
CARYN: Well, I learned how to allow. Because I was able to allow things to happen, the things that I wanted happened, and I’ve been very good at doing that lately.
ROSE: We think this is wonderfully arriving at the things we’re going to discuss this evening, so we’ll give you a gold star for that answer, dear one. Do continue to allow your questions about this if you like also, okay? This can be later, if you’d like.
CARYN: Okay.
ROSE: Do you have any other things you’d like to allow yourself to share about the allowing that you did now?
CARYN: Well, I think that in the past when I wanted something I’d be very intellectual and very, almost anxiety-ridden about getting it.
ROSE: Exactly!
CARYN: You know, I would stay up all night long...
ROSE: You all do this!
CARYN: ...to secure every possible thing I could think of to make sure to get this, and then I realized that if this was meant for me, and that this is really what I wanted and what was best for me, that I could just relax and allow it to happen instead of trying to force it to happen. Then I did that and that’s exactly what happened, and it didn’t have any anxiety in it at all and was actually a pleasant process.
DENISE: Can I ask a question? About how long from the time you decided to allow it to happen and the manifestation?
CARYN: It was somewhat of an ongoing thing, but I think I made a decision in my mind that I wanted to change something, and was a little afraid about maybe one of the consequences of that. But then I was somewhat forced to make a decision. So I made the decision and then was worried about what I was going to replace, kind of... I was in a situation, I wanted to get out of it, and I needed something to replace it.
And instead of freaking out and getting on the Internet and trying to find something to replace it with, I said, “Let me just have fun looking around and see what I see.” And I didn’t force myself to stay at the computer for hours looking, and you know, I would say that it was maybe a matter of days. I can’t remember exactly, but it was more like a matter of days. Once I made the decision, then it kind of just happened right after that.
DENISE: See, there are no coincidences, because I can’t believe you said that. It’s like that’s exactly what I’m going through right now. It’s like...
PAUL: That’s why you’re here today.
DENISE: ...when you said it I almost freaked out and said, “Wait a minute, she’s like, taking the words, literally, right out of my mouth!” There are no coincidences – we’re all going through that same thing right now.
ROSE: And she is you, after all.
DENISE: It’s just that she expressed it so well.
ROSE: We want to assure you, having said that, there are reasons to want to exchange ideas about how to do this more frequently in your days so as to do this as the habitual way, rather than the exceptional way. Okay? So we’ll also allow the women in the room to express how to realize allowances or to share what you’ve learned recently about your beautiful lives that you’d like to share this evening, dear ones.
Anything to choose to report on things to celebrate this week?
DENISE: Yes (Laughing). I’m sorry. It’s just too funny. Okay, about a week ago last Friday the third was my birthday, so I went to Disneyland because you get in free on your birthday. So I was going to go with a friend of mine, but she couldn’t go, so I decided to go anyway by myself. The theme for Disneyland this year is “What Are You Celebrating?” It’s all about celebrations. (Group laughs) So if you’re celebrating something, a birthday, anniversary, whatever, you get in free. So I did that, and I had probably one of the best days of my whole life. I just had a wonderful time and it was a magical experience. It’s a place of magic: Disneyland.
I had a really incredible experience. I don’t know whether you want to know the details, but I’m now in, sort of, the after aspect of that, in sort of an allowance phase of seeing if that moment will expand, or was that just a one-time moment? I have a question about something that happened a week ago.
ROSE: This is so very appropriate for the discussion this evening that we’ll say (Humorously) you’ll get the money we told you we’d share with you, should you bring this up this evening, later, dear one. In other words, you’re our confederate, indeed. We’re saying this is the reason you have Rose to teall[1] you what you know are the things about yourselves, to realize reminders rather than teachings, okay?[2] So we will reinforce what you said about what to celebrate.
To celebrate is the thing. To have reasons for this is almost unimportant. You don’t really need any reason to celebrate anything, do you? You have the reasons to celebrate everything all the time. So don’t block yourselves into any one thing or another. Your suggestion about how you did celebrate things was in line with our teachings in every way.
You have reasons to celebrate every single day. You just don’t always understand this because you get consumed by the things of life that are trivial, in some ways. Non-celebratory, to say this another way. Why not try to celebrate every day, indeed? And when you don’t, do so on your holidays. Every holiday is very special, as well as reason to bust loose, in some ways, without regard to worrying overmuch about how you’ll be [received].
So do continue to express to yourselves how very beautiful your celebrations are, as well as realize they are only reminders of how you can achieve more throughout your days by allowing more love, as well as beautiful things, into your lives in ways you don’t yet. But you’re doing this always without reasons to. So do so.
Use your best potentials in spirit to drum up the best celebrations you can in every way, in every day, then allow yourselves to really cut loose on the days you celebrate the things you do, whatever they are, indeed. So do so, and we’ll begin to allow more questions this evening, so you can open up the floor for whatever beautiful topics you have for Rose this evening, dear ones.
JOYCE: I have a response. I was thinking that we only celebrate that which we like, which is in a sense not allowing or accepting what is, because I’ve had some negative things happen throughout my life, and I have looked back over them, and found that they avoided far worse, and that I should be grateful that they did that for me. They said, “Don’t go there.” Then, of course, my ego said, “I’m going there,” or “I want to go there,” or “How could you do this?”
So over the years I’ve learned that we have to celebrate the positives as well as the negatives, because they are stepping stones along the way. It is actually through the negatives that we learn sometimes the most, so I think that’s a difference between accepting and allowing what is, rather than fighting with it, and trying to figure out what it’s message is for you, instead of saying “It’s not supposed to be there,” start listening, and start learning.
ROSE: You might even consider allowing the self to realize this as you habituate every celebration differently in your future. You have reason to update these celebrations. Why not consider doing so by allowing the worst things to be celebrated as well? For these are your life experiences. They are necessary, indeed. You’re exactly right about this, dear one.
So do continue to allow the updating that needs to occur in your celebrations as you begin to exude the feminine energy that is the Rose energy, we’ll say, as well as your essence energy. These are all combining to love you into the next phase[3], for each of you, okay, do you follow?
We’re suggesting you have many reasons to want to achieve your new ways in spirit sooner than later, for you’ll discover many feminine attributes have lain dormant about your beautiful celebrations that will be re-invoked when you choose to: your Crone Ceremonies, for example, your Easter, as well as Passover. These are all reasons to want to contribute to the communities you’re in, not just your religious communities, but your beautiful self-imagined ones also, the ones you imagine you want to have, as well as lead things in ways that celebrate the very natures that you are: paradoxical at times, right?
So do continue to allow the expressions you do, for you have a very many reasons for wanting to be leaders in this regard, okay? You have the considerable depth of learning in this area also, Rosalie, that you have many reasons to enlist these neophytes here this evening to incorporate them into your flock, indeed. So do so, and we’ll assist, as always.
Do you have other comments, dear Rosalie, this evening?
JOYCE: I feel that Easter and Passover are forever linked, though we try to divide it, actually the Last Supper was the Passover. I have people in my family of both religions, so this is not a competitive thing. I see it as a gateway and sharing the mantle, sort of giving the approval or opening the door for what will be. I’m not sure that what will be actually happened. I have certain reservations, but needless to say, new energy including femininity is reintroduced into the world, and I think the idea of resurrection and redemption came in very clearly. I think that was needed in that part of the world and it is still badly needed in all parts of the world right now.
I also think that there is a shifting to honor the feminine, not to compete with the masculine, but to work together. I see that happening more and more, and quicker and quicker.
ROSE: You’re exactly right. There are reasons to want to exclude men, in some ways. We’ll suggest we’re not exactly, during our session, going to be bashing men at all. But there are reasons to want to pull together as women to conduct things differently, that’s all. Don’t be exclusive, but do continue to talk to each other to get the threads together to exude the sort of managerial style you have in you that is so desperately needed in the world, indeed.
So do take on the men in beautiful ways, not to compete, as you said, but to bluster also in some ways. This is okay to do. You don’t need to wrong on yourselves for feeling that you’re overly womanhood-oriented, for example. Don’t wrong on yourselves for this. Do take on the men in beautiful ways: loving them, as well as tealling them what they need to do to be more happy in the world, as well as lead them in ways they need to be led. Okay?
So we’ll say there are reasons to be Rose nuns, in some ways, without needing the men involved, or allowing them to continue to interest themselves in Rose, but you’ll discover there are reasons to want to go this alone as women, in some respects, also.
JOYCE: You’re answering something that I have been wrestling with. I think I know my answer, but the person who’s co-creating the Grandmothers’ World Council[4] is wrestling with it, too. She comes from a different culture which is very patriarchal, even now, and she’s facing certain cultural doctrines versus her own inner feeling.
We’re basing the Grandmothers’ council on the “the grandmothers speak, the world will heal” prophecy by the Hopis. So she said the men want to join the women’s council. I said, well, the women have been, throughout history, the birthing ones, and yet they need their men along with them. Whether it’s birthing an idea, a community, or a child, they want their man with them, because he is part of it.
On the other hand, I see nothing wrong – this is me personally – in the women having their own council. I think the men can be supportive. I think they can be part of it and encourage their women, and I see nothing wrong with creating their own councils in communion with us. But I don’t think we have to give it up, but again, it’s her culture, and I can’t tell her what to do. But I think she’s beginning to at least see it the way I am, not necessarily that she will choose that, but she’s at least understanding where I’m coming from, and I’m understanding where she’s coming from. Perhaps there will be different councils in different countries based on their cultural links.
ROSE: You have every reason to want to convince your friend to do things separately at times. There are reasons to want to do this.
For example, the men have ways of getting together, don’t they? They do all the time, in fact, at work in that culture, for example. So why not try to say, “Hey, there are reasons to want to allow yourselves to gather together without men the same way they do without you.” So they have reasons to want to gather in manly ways, as well as reason to want to gather in womanly ways, as well as reasons to want to gather in very integrated ways. We say “very,” for there are very many ways to integrate as groups as well as couples, correct? These are integrated ways as well.
So to say to her, “I think it wouldn’t hurt to have a women’s support group,” you might say, “to comfort each other in ways that women do without the reasons that men want to hear.” There are reasons to say “help” or “support group,” for men won’t be drawn to that, necessarily, in spite of their good intentions. There are reasons to say, “Hey, women sometimes know better about what other women are thinking or feeling. Sometimes they need to be alone together to sort things out without men. This doesn’t mean we don’t want you around. We just think that as you as men sometimes must be without women, we need to sometimes be without men, only for short periods of time. We love you too much to want to stay apart too long.”
So don’t wrong on her, of course, as you know, for not wanting this. There are reasons to want to allow her to understand the differences between rotating the services towards others in ways that are minted in new ways. So we’re suggesting there are reasons to do things differently that are not necessarily in violation with her beliefs either. So do teall her we said so, if you’d like also, okay? So we’ll suggest as well you need to meet together also.
Women need to meet together to serve each other in ways they don’t now. These are days where there are many reasons to want to bond together. There are many things that women know that are dormant in them that are brought out by women in ways that men sometimes don’t – we’re not suggesting they’re not capable or even accepting of these ways – but there are reasons to want to meet together to form cultural dispositions so as to allow more fruits of your labors. We’re going to new areas here. Fruits of your labors are that which are the reasons to celebrate, correct? To take on the celebrations in ways that are achieving more than you’re doing now in ways you’ll not consider traditionally as achieving.
Okay, we’ll let you ponder this a bit in your discussion also, but we’ll say there are reasons to want to align more together to get more from each other, then align with men to allow these fruits of your discussions to bloom – to not mix metaphors – but to enjoy the fruits of your discoveries together, indeed. Okay?
So do so, as well as continue your beautiful suggestions this evening about how you’ll begin to discover new ways to celebrate, dear ones. You’ve already had a beautiful suggestion that allowing the “negative” things to be celebrated as reasons to enjoy this are bountiful. There are many reasons to exude celebration around your very monopolizing, disagreeable things. We say “monopolizing,” for they do tend to monopolize your thinking. Why not throw them out there at celebration time to achieve your longing for other reasons to celebrate? You have many reasons to want to exude all things at celebration time, not feel that you need to only do things according to how you plan them. Indeed, the importance of allowing your negative things to be expressed is in your very reasons for living: to learn from them, okay?
So do continue to allow yourselves to express everything you want to at celebration time, as well as to glory in everything that you are, as well as everything that you do, indeed, dear ones. Do continue with your beautiful suggestions this evening on how to allow your celebrations to thrive in your days, as well as cycles, indeed.
CARYN: Well, I was just thinking while we were discussing the differences between men and women. You know, in the past, I would really take to heart all of the negative things that men would say about women, and I’d see all of those things as weaknesses and I’d try to distance myself from that and be more like a man. Only recently have I started to realize a lot of those weaknesses are actually strengths, and it’s a matter of perspective.
Just in the past month, more than one of my male friends has stated, “Women are always crazy around that time of the month, and they don’t think straight.” I was thinking to myself, as Rose would say, what a geanius[5] thing it is, PMS, because during that week, we’re allowed to get out everything – everything that’s been building up emotionally – and become really contrary during that week. And that’s a really geanius thing.
ROSE: Exactly. Even if you sometimes cross the line, too, isn’t it lovely to know that you can do this, as well as still be involved with your friends as well as loved ones? They won’t kick you out for being contrary in definitely wrong ways, we’ll say. Sometimes you get only wrong things out – the nitty gritty things that are building up inside. We’re saying “wrong” in not “wrong ways,” we mean, but in wrong ways to you, that is.
So don’t wrong on yourselves for saying wrong things, indeed, for these are exceptions to the rule, always, as well as reasons to want to celebrate again who you are – wrong at times. Why not say, “I’m wrong at times. God love it, indeed, for I’m alive and well, as well as healthy enough to spit things out in ways that are essentially horrible at times.” Okay? So do continue to allow everything, dear ones. We think this is great, indeed.
JOYCE: If you allow yourself to be wrong, which is horrible in our society, you actually open the door, and should be celebrating “now I can do it differently.”
ROSE: Exactly.
JOYCE: I don’t have to hold onto it, I don’t have to react, I don’t have to defend. I am now free to decide. Do I want to continue this for whatever my reasons are, or do I want to create something else a different way?
ROSE: You only need to realize it’s wrong. You only need to understand why it’s wrong sometimes – not always – but sometimes you need to figure out the wrongness about this. Then move on in ways that are right or better.
These are geanius things, indeed. These are ways you have of getting your attention about things that are important to you also. There are reasons to want to wrong on self when you do things to violate others. We’re not suggesting this is a bad thing at all to say: sometimes you need to allow the wrong to teach you about the people in your lives. So do continue to allow wrongness also.
This is why sometimes the women need to be together also. Don’t women have more reasons to want to allow the wrongness than men?[6]
JOYCE: Well, I feel that with my friend, of course, I’m judging it. But from my viewpoint, not judging her, just judging from my viewpoint, she’s afraid to take the lead because in her culture, the men lead. I don’t think that they can lead certain places that women need to lead themselves. And so it’s like “yes we can.” We can change, we can evolve, but that is going to involve everybody in the tribe or family culture that’s going to have to look at the perks that they get from keeping it the way it is. Most people are terrified of change, and I have been one of them at times, too. So I think that this is where women have to lead, and they have to lead themselves.
When I think that roughly 50% of the world is women and 50% are men, give or take a few percentages, and so many women are sitting in huts with darkened windows and they’re wearing the burkas and chadors, and they can’t leave without anyone. There was something on YouTube about a woman in Saudi Arabia who was whipped and beaten because she had the audacity to leave the house with a man that they didn’t know, or she wasn’t supposed to know. I think that it is women who must lead the way because there are so many women who open the bird cage that they find themselves in. Pretty as it may be, gilded as it may be, they’re afraid to leap. They’re terrified, because they are breaking a code which they have helped hurt themselves, in a way.
So I think by sisterhood, by helping one another and understanding it’s okay to claim one’s own human rights. It is not to hurt the men in our lives, but to raise everybody’s consciousness. I think it’s not going to happen overnight, but I think it needs to begin and it’s the women who are willing to begin that will be the leaders in this. It’s not that we can’t learn better ways or more constructive ways as we go, because we will make mistakes as well, and we have to allow for that.
ROSE: Exactly. Why not try to exude the kind of womanhood you have wanted to be all your lives? You have many fears about this, still, about how you’ll be allowed to be that way, or perceived to be, or allowed to be perceived, in some respects, as well. So these are reasons to want to allow yourselves to bond in ways you’re not doing yet.
So you’ll discover how to healp[7] yourselves as women, then healp the men as women, too. We’re joking a bit here, but to healp women healps men be more womanly as well as manly. We’re suggesting there’s a sort of balance that needs to be struck by the women first, then allowed to be struck by men. But until women bond, these won’t occur. These won’t occur because they won’t have the knowledge they need to balance again.
So we’ll suggest you have reasons to do homework about this. We want you to bond over the next several weeks together as women: over tea, over chat rooms, over nonsensical things like dancing, or plugging your books, or binge shopping, okay? Everything you might consider as womanly bonding is allowed: everything. Going to a strip club is encouraged, in fact, okay?
So do allow Rose to inhabit your days as women bonding, as well as women bonding over the reasons they have for wanting the world to be brighter for them, okay? So do so. We’ll begin to describe how to know you’re doing this right: when you have a sense of fun or frivolity, (Humorously) when you have a sense Her Majesty Rose is getting to healp you in new ways. Realize we’re joking. We’re not saying Rose, but your essences. You think of your essences as Rose. That’s okay, but to say this another way, Rose realizes Goddessness.
You have to do this too, for yourselves. You have to bring about the birth of your own goddesses. Rose is one. You have many. They are in you. They are you. They are your beautiful men also. They are everything you are as well as the world you inhabit. So do take on the sense of goddesshood in your chreations[8] of bonding. This will be a way you’ll allow this understanding of how you’re doing it well.
(Humorously) We’ll limit the fun to only a few days a week, though. You do need to work for a living, some of you, okay? So do continue to allow your best selves to thrive. This is why you want to do this, okay, not to say, “I need to create a sewing circle.” Indeed, you only you need to investigate this as a means to explore your greater selves, okay?
Realize we’re not going to allow you to not do this. We’ll definitely be hanging onto the reasons for doing this, therefore realizing reminders about this at another time, okay? Okay. So do so. We’ll suggest you have reasons to want to break for a few minutes. Do continue to ask your beautiful questions after the break. Then we’ll begin to describe how to love each other better, indeed. Okay, dear ones?
GROUP: Thank you!
BREAK: 5:21 PM.
RESUME: 6:03 PM.
(Nardine mentioned that her husband, Pete, suggested during the break that we have a “Tarts on the Town” night. We all heartily agreed!)
ROSE: You have ways of getting your attention in regard to the reasons to thrive in new ways. We’ll say this again slower: you have every reason to want to thrive in new ways so you’ll discover ways to suggest to yourselves how that will be in your future.
So you have reasons to want to thrive. You have reasons to want to begin to disseminate the valuable information you know about. You have many reasons to want to thrive in fun ways as well, in everyday world terms, without necessarily doing Rose-work or essence-work, as you might say. You have reasons to want to begin to structure your world in new ways without needing structure, per se, but restructuring in thought ways, perhaps, as well.
You have every reason to want to beautify the world so as to induce more thought as to how you’ll want to involve others so as to enjoy the fruits of your labors, indeed. So you have many reasons to want to thrive in new ways, correct? These are very wonderful things, but you’ll discover more as you begin to discuss amongst yourselves, dear ones, the many ways to invoke the goddesses you have become to achieve more things in your world.
We want you to take action tonight to begin to say how you’ll begin to thrive in structured ways to enjoy your fellow women as well as to begin to take on the challenges of the world in fun ways for you. Do you have any suggestions on how this may be accomplished? We want to say there are reasons to want to do your “tarts on the town,” for this is how you’ll begin to structure the fun things into your lives, anyway, without necessarily doing any more work than that, indeed.
So do continue to say how you think you may need women in your life so as to structure the days with them in more wonderful ways than you are now. Do you have any ideas tonight, dear ones?
JOYCE: I think sharing our stories is a good way, because then we find out who we think we are.
ROSE: Indeed, do you have any reasons to think these are dearer than women who don’t get the Rose information? They are, in some ways, dearer, but not worth more. We’ll say a bit about this, for we don’t want to confuse you. We’re only suggesting that there are many ways to invoke story to begin to heal the world. In this, your stories are very good to share with non-Rose types, in a sense.
So you might consider doing storytelling in a very newly-minted way, like in a very new library situation. You have new libraries in your towns. Why not try to allow yourselves to share stories there about how you’ll conquer the world? Maybe share stories about women who have conquered the world in ways you’ll discover about yourselves, too? These are reasons to want to research things, to get the ways of spirit for yourself about how to take on the world in meaningful ways in your communities, indeed. Any other ways to share stories that come to mind, dear one?
JOYCE: There’s a group of us, we have some men in the group as well as women. I would say we’re four times as many women as the men, but we have the men because it’s a different type of grouping. We are writing a book for men and women – young people, 16-21. We have a publisher. We have almost finished the book. We’re editing it, and what we’re really trying to do – not only in our stories, but in other ways – is trying to bring spirit into the lives of the young people. We try to reintroduce them to the idea that they are more than just the physical, that there is more that they can draw upon for help, etc. Everybody wrote something very different in their own way of teaching or modeling. I don’t know when it’s going to come out, but we’re very excited.
ROSE: You have a sort of high-end way of doing the work in the world. Why not try to assimilate non-high-end ways also, like suggesting to others how they might learn to reduce stress in their days by meditation, for example? Ways that are personally delivered, in some ways, besides books. You’ll discover many things about other women in the process, as well as how you’ll discard your impressions about how to interact in the world. There are many ways to do this.
You’ve hidden yourselves, in some ways, behind the facade of learning, but there is a time coming to learn more in your days and the world than at Rose’s feet, indeed, dear ones. So do try to interact with the world in ways that teall them about the days ahead as potentials in spirit, about the shift in consciousness happening, about the ways you have of getting your feet under you again after the passing of a loved one, about how health issues can be resolved through not fearing things so much.
For example, you might allow yourselves to take in ways of hearing others’ plights while suggesting to them other recourses than what they’ve considered, treanteaing[9] with them, in a sense. There are myriad ways to move into the world as missionaries, in a sense, without needing to invoke this religious term, but as true potentially helpful individuals in spirit. That’s all. We suggest there’s more to say about this at times when you’re a bit more focused on this, but we want to plant the seeds of this so as to achieve your best world in the future. That’s all, okay?
So do continue to share your impressions about how your womenfolk can get together to learn to discuss things that bring things to fruition, as well as to discuss things that are merely for fun, indeed. So do so.
We’ll suggest the weary girl here has an idea. She likes to have Rose speak for her, so she doesn’t need to get out of state, but she has ways of getting to the point in a very big way.
She has accommodated the local pub as a potential means to share Rose information in small ways, not large ways. For example, she wants to meet a new girlfriend there this week to share stories about things. This friend also loves to striptease. (Joanne laughs) Not really. She is an exotic dancer, in her past, that is. She wants to thrive in that situation, as does the weary girl. She does want to dance with her. This is a very beautiful thing.
Your women have danced together since the dawn of time. This is a beautiful, magical thing to do with women together, indeed. Why not try to dance together tonight, indeed? For you have many reasons to want to do so. It’s geanius for you in spiritual as well as physical ways, indeed. So do so.[10]
Any other means to try to get together more with your girlfriends, indeed? How about another crone ceremony?[11] There are many reasons to want to do these, or expand your quest for cronedom by suggesting they need to do steps towards cronedom, maybe in the sontering[12] of spirit. You might consider 30s or 40s as a means to mark these very important birthdates.
JOYCE: A big part of women is the ritual, the initiation, the ceremony that gives honor to entering and leaving different spaces and growing times.
ROSE: Adolescence is another very important one.
JOYCE: Graduation, anniversary, a new tree, whatever you want to make it, it’s just up to you. There we are, back to celebrations.
ROSE: Exactly. There you go again, dear one. That’s exactly why you chose to be a very high priestess, in some ways, of spirit in this regard. You can do more than these, even, if you like. We’re only suggesting these are ideas only, so do continue to allow the celebratory spirit to infuse itself in your womanly creations, that’s all.
Now do you have any other questions about ceremonies to discover tonight? About ceremonies of spirit, or physical passages? Any more intrusive ideas about how to recall the past in ways that are not friendly to those who don’t want to include sex in their ceremonies, indeed? There are many reasons to want to be sexy about the ceremonies also. We want to potentiate these as rites of women that are truly investigating of your assurances that you’re being senxual[13] in your spiritual practices.
We want to allow you to discuss sex in your circles, to discuss procreation in your circles, orgasm, etc. All these are things you need to discuss, for you’ll discover more things about your own sexuality than you would normally. But this is not to say there will be much different afterwards, only that there may be things you’ll discover about your own bodies, even, or spirit-body connections that will induce more self into your days. So women have the safety of other women to talk about things that are taboo in other places, okay? That’s all, indeed, we’re suggesting.[14]
So do continue with your beautiful questions this evening, as well as to invoke goddess-self in your questions, for we’ll be calling on your essence-selves to teall us how you want to proceed in goddessness, in a sense, okay? How do you have ways of tealling things without knowing things? You know things, of course, but sometimes you say things without knowing what you’re saying. Why is this, dear ones?
You have…what? Goddesses in you, correct? Who want to speak.
DENISE: Can I give an example?
ROSE: Mmhm.
DENISE: It was a few years ago, I was talking with someone I work with, at work, and she was just getting into all of this information that we’ve been reading about and discussing for years. I found myself talking to her and all of a sudden, a part of me stepped back, and I was listening to what I was saying. It was almost like it was coming from another, higher self of me, and I was listening and learning along with her.
It was like we were both listening to words that were coming out of my mouth – I don’t know where they were coming from – and it was definitely tapping into this goddess-energy that you’re talking about, that knew the answers, and I was amazed as I was speaking. I was learning this as I said the words, so it was definitely coming from some other source or higher energy that I just kind of sat back, relaxed, and let come through.
JOYCE: You were allowing it.
DENISE: Yes. It was almost like I was there saying it at the same time I was observing it and listening and learning from it simultaneously.
PAUL: Sounds like a healthy dissociative state to me.[15]
DENISE: Yeah.
PAUL: Something we’d call channeling, in a way.
DENISE: I’ve done it a couple of times, I’ve noticed. It wasn’t just the one time. I think you also have to trust, because a lot of times if you’re saying, “Well, is that right? I want it to be perfect. I want it to be correct. Am I saying it just right? Or do I know what I’m talking about?” You start questioning and that puts a barrier on you. You say, “I know this at a higher level, I already know this, and I need to step out of my own way and let it come through,” and that’s what I do.
JOYCE: You did the same thing with your allowing and receiving, and as a result, you stop making it perfect and worrying about everything. You just let it happen, and I think when we get out of our own way that’s….
DENISE: Trust, trust.
PAUL: And your intent is important in those situations, too, like the energetic exchange with your friend. In your case, Caryn, what you referred to – the intent to solve a problem or have a goal – something to change was important.
DENISE: I have to say that this person I was just talking about, she was on medication for years for depression and things like that. Within just a couple of weeks of us just talking, she was off all medications she had been on for 20-25 years. She was totally off, and her husband said, “What happened to you? What’s going on with you, because you’re better now than you were when you were on medication?” She has since left the organization. I haven’t talked to her since, but I hope she continued and didn’t go back on medication.
JOYCE: Because we become patients and we’re told how we’re supposed to do this, and everybody depends on us to do it after a while, and she found a better, healthy way. She listened to herself and to you.
DENISE: Yeah.
ROSE: Any other comments from the peanut gallery, dear weary boy? You have a reason to want to try to achieve this also. We are not suggesting only goddesses need apply, dear one, of course.
PAUL: Right now I’m thinking of the commercial that’s now out on the television where a there’s a party at the house, and a woman shows her girlfriends the house, and they go to this walk-in closet and all the girls start fawning and screaming. And all of a sudden that fawning is overshadowed by the men who have just been introduced to the walk-in beer closet in the kitchen, and it’s really funny. That’s out there on T.V. That commercial would not have been there 10 years ago, much less 30 years ago. So there’s a feminine/masculine balance, I think. There’s a masculine, testosterone-driven equivalent to all of this, too, and it’s all great.
ROSE: Exactly. This is happening in a very big way, indeed, for there are reasons to want the balance. This has been the problem, not that men have corrupted the world. The women, as you said earlier, have also achieved this as well, so don’t wrong on men for the balance. There have been very many women perfectly suited for this (10 second pause) example of humanity. This has been very purposeful to your species: to enable the imperfection, you might say, that is needing to be corrected.
So this is important to know: that there are reasons to want to balance, but there are reasons to not want to balance completely, for the changes in the world are those needed to be changes. Not this, exactly, as change, but the need for change is what’s driving much creativity as well as potentials for examples to be made of men, as well as women.
These are you, dear ones. These examples are you, so don’t ever think the world is in need of change without your consent. There are reasons to want to go forth as well as conquer the world, but to say the world needs changing is not exactly right.
The world needs you, only, in it, okay? In all your goddess glory. (To Paul) We do mean you, as well, dear one. We realize the testosterone is enough in you to handle such an assertion, indeed.
So we’ll suggest the days of the goddess are ahead for you all so as to invoke her in your days as women as well as goddesses, as well as even men who wish to allow this energy to permeate their being. Okay? So don your goddess-suits to go forth into the world as well as to thrive, for you’re doing this work now for that reason, as well as allowing the best selves to be in the world. You’re doing this today, even. Okay?
So do continue to ask your questions about how to allow the goddess-selves in more than ever before in your history. Do you have reasons to want to be forthright about the goddesses you are? Indeed, we think so. We think you’re ready for this, indeed.
JOYCE: Now, it’s dawned on me that we have this nuclear family. We have the single parent home, male or female. We really are left on our own, even in writing the book. You have to publish it yourself in so many cases. You’ve got to write it, you’ve got to edit it. It seems to me that if women can more deeply explore for themselves – not just for humanity – what it is like to be women at this time, and if men can have that right to explore their manhood….
One of the things I saw in What is Enlightenment?[16] is that a lot of men no longer know what it’s like to be a man in this world, and they are so scared of failing women, which they never considered before. And they feel that women are telling them to be just like them (women), and they don’t want to be women. I realize that so many women, when they began to go out to work, they even had the pinstripe suits, and they were trying so hard to be like the men, and it wasn’t working.
I think one of the things you’re asking us to do – at least I’m hearing – is a call to engage more deeply in what it is to be feminine women, warmth, whatever we think belongs there. We may find parts of ourselves we never knew we owned: some we like, some we may not. I see it equally as important for men to not do this by themselves either, because it’s only with the mirroring and the exploring together and showing each other different ways that we’re really going to grow more genuinely into what male and female are really about – sexually, intimately, and all of that.
DENISE: I think it’s important to make a distinction between male and female and masculine and feminine. Male and female are genders. Masculine and feminine are within every single individual. So sometimes we think masculine/male, feminine/female, but every female has masculine and feminine; every male has masculine and feminine. So we’re talking about aspects which we can call masculine and feminine, but it’s just like a magnet has a positive and negative pole, it doesn’t mean positive is good and negative is bad. We confuse terms when it’s just two aspects of one thing. So they’re not opposites, they’re just a right hand-left hand type of situation.
JOYCE: [inaudible]
DENISE: Yeah, so when we talk about masculine and feminine, it’s really one thing. It’s just kind of a preponderance in one area, and it’s like a pendulum that has shifted to one area, and we need to come more to a balance instead of shifting again to the other area. We’re not talking about going all the way to the feminine and forgetting about the masculine or vice versa. We need to integrate the two and become whole and complete.
JOYCE: It’s very important that you said that, because this is not one gender or one type of part of the brain, the psyche, against the other. We’d be at war, and I think to some extent we have been, but I really think that as we more deeply engage in our own gender we will find both of these parts.
DENISE: That’s the whole point.
JOYCE: I think you’re right. That is one way we will find….
DENISE: We express the integration through the gender. The integration of the masculine and feminine through the female, and integration of the masculine and feminine through the male, but it’s got to come together internally before we can see it reflected to us externally. That’s what we’re seeing now, because there’s so much division, or seeming division, it’s only a reflection of what’s been going on inside us all along anyway.
JOYCE: And also in the Western world, we have a great emphasis on not only separation which we see also in our science, for example, but it’s also in individuality. As a twin, god, I wanted to be an individual. You have no idea. We’re human. We need to like each other. We need to help each other. We need to live among each other. That’s how families started, and cities and towns. I think that you have to – again, the word balance is what we were talking about – we need to do the individual with the collective. It’s both. It’s like yin/yang. You need a little of both.
So I can see this really being a lot larger than what we just started to talk about. It’s important for both – for all of humankind – let’s put it that way.
PAUL: I just want to add a third thing, just to clarify. You made a distinction between gender, which is your genitalia, shall we say. There’s a physical gender, male/female, and there’s also a gray area there, and then types, as opposed to a masculine/feminine type.
DENISE: Aspect.
PAUL: Aspect, yes. And then the third thing is sexual preference, because you can have female/female, male/male, and male/female preferences in a spectrum, and I’ll just throw in Elias’s orientations, which is another typology of common, intermediate, and soft, which is a filtering perception that’s related to what he calls the belief system of sexuality. Then just to throw in Seth’s basic bisexual psyche – and of course Jung and Freud studied this – and the anima and animus are within all of us. They discovered this as psychologists, and so that typing is in you, even though you’re female gender or masculine gender. Whatever your preference or orientation is, you still have these two elements that need balancing inside of you, and expression.
There’s so much repression in other cultures, other societies. There was just this story in the last two weeks of five or six gay men in Iraq were executed, killed, outed by their tribes and families because it’s still very repressive there.
JOYCE: It’s repressive in America, too, in certain parts.
PAUL: We still have the gay marriage issue – the civil rights issue of this time. I made an analogy in a radio interview on Reality by Design[17], where I made the analogy of the civil rights issue of gay and lesbian rights being similar to channeling rights in the conscious creation community. We’re still very much in the closet because of our interest in channeling, dissociative intelligence, and we’re helping to legitimize that. In the masculine, scientific-driven world, there’s one ego, and if HE’s not in control, then it’s pathology across the board, so there’s just another sprinkling of ideas.
DENISE: Yeah, it’s not as black-and-white as we want it to be to be, much more simple. It’s so many layers….
PAUL: Ken and Barbie.[18]
DENISE: [inaudible]
JOYCE: We’re the ones who put the black and white bars in it.
DENISE: Yeah, and it’s like so many people who want or need a black-and-white world are having a tough time because they’re discovering that it doesn’t work anymore. The old energy which is no longer serving us is coming to an end, but like everything that sees its own end in sight, it will fight to the death to survive. So what you’re seeing is sort of the backlash of that energy trying to struggle to hold on and maintain, when the snowball is the shift, and if you’re not on board, you’re going to just fall away. They’re just struggling to maintain that old energy that they’ve always known because it’s the known and the comfortable.
JOYCE: When I listen to all of you, and to Jo and Rose and stuff, I realize that this is [inaudible] and it’s big not in a (gasp) “my god” or you must do this under pressure, no, it’s really… so much of our world is repressed. So much of what a woman is is repressed, and a man has also got parts that are repressed, gender as well as psyche: what’s allowed, how we’re allowed to express our femininity or our masculinity, or our female or maleness. So what she’s really saying is explore and become more whole, and more rich, and share that with one another. First do it where it’s probably safer and more comfortable and more natural among women with women. But men are also searching for who they are.
DENISE: Yeah, I think we need to redefine what it means to be a woman or a man and forget about old definitions, because it’s just no longer….
JOYCE: Yeah, and that’s what I think we’re being asked to do, and to celebrate the right to do it and the opportunity to do it.
ROSE: There’s that word again.
JOYCE: It’s very exciting. Yeah, I purposely brought it in because it’s very exciting.
DENISE: And allow. Celebrate and allow the celebration. I have a personal question that sort of ties in.
ROSE: This is so needing to be done first. Let’s go here, okay, before we get to your question?
This is so needing to be done, perhaps more than anything in the world: allowing others to be however they need to be, however they are. In other words, it is different for everyone who ever lived. There’s not any way you can use cookie cutters on individuals anymore. These are days that will defy the apparently misguided means of forcing individuals into roles.
So this is perhaps the most important work that can be done: healping people do what they want to do, period, as well as what their way of spirit calls to them to do. In this, we suggest these things are not different at all. When you do what you want, you do your way of spirit, if you’re mature enough to understand that these things take time to learn.
So do want to healp people get on their way of spirit, as well as find work that suits them. If you can find ways to get people doing these two things, you’ll in many ways change the entire planet for the better. There are way too many individuals wanting things they have no idea how to get, as well as needing to know they are loved beyond measure.
This is how you can change the world: by allowing the teachings of Rose to permeate the world. We’re suggesting you’re doing the work in yourselves now. We want to recruit you to do more in the world. This may seem like a test, but it’s not. For when you consider how very needing you are of being needed in the world, you’ll understand why your Rose is suggesting this to help you – first and foremost – to do what you will in ways that bring you more joy as well as satisfaction in the world, okay?
So do allow yourselves to do more in the way of sharing the information in whatever way you choose to without needing to proselytize or feel you need to convince anyone. Just “do the voodoo you do so well” by channeling your goddess-selves first as well as foremost. This will always be your best approach towards getting on your way of spirit. You’re getting there. You’re all getting there. You’re not there yet, though. You’re not quite there, because you’re not quite getting the role yet, but you’re getting there, as well as you will get there. Okay? So do allow your questions, dear one.
DENISE: Well, as I said, I had something happen last week that sort of is testing my ability to trust and allow. I met someone in a very unusual in a wonderful way, and I’m just – it was such a strong connection with them immediately – it’s like the sense you get that you’ve known them all your life. Maybe there’s some reason for that, maybe a past life connection or whatever. But it was very strong, and I had the feeling at the time that this… “We’re not finished” is the phrase that kept coming through. So I’m just wondering if I – maybe this is a crystal ball question – but I’m just wondering if I am going to hear from them. Are they going to contact me? Is it going to be a continuation, or was that a one-time event and there’s nothing beyond that?
ROSE: We don’t take on crystal ball questions, but we will say there are reasons to want to come to a strong conclusion about what you want to happen. Then focus on that to exclude the many fears you have about this, okay? Just trust this will occur if you want it to, but you need to allow this, as you said earlier, indeed. So do take on the fears around this projection that you have of wanting but not wanting this. That’s all.
You do want this, but in some ways you don’t want this. That’s why your needing to allow this to occur is how you’ll move into new areas without the fear you have had in the past. You’re moving now, we want to assure you, but you’re allowed to let go of the last vestiges of fear in the process.
DENISE: And was I correct in my feeling that I had known him in the past?
ROSE: You did know him in another focus in Egypt together, as some individuals who are here today have Egyptian focuses. He’s a guide in the city of Ramala.[19] In the spiritual sense, he is also somewhat of a guide, too. So he’s guiding you towards fearless creating, in a sense, without need for fear about allowances. He’s guiding you in ways you’re not fully aware of, also, in consciousness. So don’t wrong on yourself for not allowing knowledge about this. Only trust this is a very geanius guide for you. Okay?
DENISE: Thank you.
ROSE: You’re very welcome. Any other questions or comments on your topics today of communication with women, or celebrations, or allowances of spirit and the world as goddesses in flesh?
(To Gordon) Gilbert also is a goddess in flesh, as well as a god in flesh, indeed. So he’s attuned in many ways, femininely, with that beautiful energy that he has, as well as masculinely. He’s a very balanced individual, in that respect, indeed. He is a good model for others, indeed. We’ll suggest he’s a very good model for women as well as men, for he has valuable knowledge of healing ways that you’d consider wanting in your feminine circles, let’s say. So use the knowledge you have in every individual you have available to you to advise the women as well as men in your lives as to the best ways they can indeed thrive.
So we’ll take another question if you’d like this evening before we wrap up.
PAUL: I have a question, and I also wanted to let Nardine know in phone-land that Gordon, our neighbor, a.k.a. Gilbert, just came in very quietly, hence the Gilbert reference. There was someone who just surreptitiously appeared in your virtual phone-space.
GORDON: That’s my Flash Gordon impression. (Group laughs)
PAUL: My question is about communication with essence in a dream that I had just this morning. It’s a recurring dreamscape for many years, and it takes different subtle twists and turns and whatnot. It essentially it has to do with being underwater and wearing a breathing apparatus of some kind, that at times I’m aware of, and other times I’m not aware. When I’m not aware, I’m like a fish in water and don’t even know it. Always in the dreamscape there’s imagery of realizing that I’m wearing this artificial thing and it’s very exciting to discover it.
In this morning’s variation, towards the end of the dream I became aware of the mouthpiece, and the sweet taste of the oxygen coming in, and how I just didn’t even realize I was breathing. Yet this was allowing me to exist in this domain under water. And there was a whole big ship and people, and it’s a big energetic thing, and there’s always this sense of discovery and exploration and going to the new place, and it’s very, very exotic. So it’s a rare kind of dream. So I just wanted to get Rose’s comments on what I’m up to in whatever layers of the dream you care to comment on.
ROSE: The dreamscape has many facets to it, so we’ll begin with the most obvious one. In this, the reasons for suggesting to yourself you can breathe underwater are very interesting. You have reasons to want to breathe underwater, don’t you? You have essence awaiting you underwater, in a sense, in other realms of being, you might say. There are reasons to want to breathe underwater to protect yourself from death. These are the same thing in some ways.
The subtle realm is without death, as well as allows your communication with essence. This is how you do this without thinking about this. When your dream showed you how to breathe without knowing about this, you did what? You challenged the apparatus that you were using to breathe, so you didn’t need to worry about the connection with essence. You only needed to breathe, correct?
PAUL: Right.
ROSE: So you had to learn to not do things the wrong way before you learned to do things the right way. In other words, you realized you didn’t need at all to wrong on yourself for questioning the connection. That’s all. You only need to do this, not think about this at all. You’re doing this, essentially, in every breath anyway. But to strongly connect in conscious ways doesn’t require any underwater training or apparatuses to breathe.
As well as another aspect to this, which is a focus of yours who is a submarine pilot who goes on to training as an underwater skier, in a sense. You ski underwater, in some ways, without jets, but with potentially dangerous fluids around you as a reclaimer of fluids that have gone adrift accidentally. You pick up fluids, basins of them, in the Navy in a focus that is in the future. So this is another aspect to this dream. To say this another way, you have a very many reasons to want to explore this underwater theme, for it’s very resonant with you, indeed.
PAUL: You’ve just triggered another memory of this dreamscape, a short dream episode in which I was on the surface, and there were two men with me who were more expert than I. They gave me a face mask, and then the breathing apparatus. But of course, you’re right above the water, underwater, and there’s that awkwardness. As soon as that mouthpiece went in and I could breathe, and I was able to go under, it was that exciting feeling of going under. I couldn’t get any further, and I couldn’t see – it wasn’t clear – so I didn’t get really deep. It was a shallow interaction, as opposed to this morning’s dream, which was very deep, down under.
I know this is a book dream, as well, about the Seth book that I’m writing. In each chapter I wrestle with a bunch of themes and issues, and I could almost do a book on the dreams that I have while I’m writing the book, but I’d be writing for hours every morning. Who knows, maybe someday? But I know it’s related because this chapter I just finished today is called “Sethics,” and it’s about the moral/ethical foundations in the Seth material, which is very difficult subject matter, and I had to go very, very deep within the material itself, and within myself to organize it and connect the dots. So that’s just another connection I make with that dream.
ROSE: Exactly. This is how you create your reality at times: muddily, then you get clarity. Then you have reasons to want to move into more natural breathing situations, indeed. This book is allowing you to focus on yourself in new ways so as to allow more breathing in the future in new ways, indeed. This dream has to do with your first take on how you’ll do this, but this is not to say the muddy waters will continue. They won’t. They will get clearer as you continue the project, as you have learned already, right?
PAUL: Right.
ROSE: So you’re doing the wronging on self at times for not being in crystal clear waters all the time, but this is the point. You’re doing the work so that others don’t have to swim in the muddy waters, dear one, anymore.
PAUL: That’s lovely.
ROSE: Indeed.
PAUL: Amen to that! Like my teacher, Ken Wilber, has done a lot of that himself, so that it makes our work easier, coming along. It makes other people’s work easier.
ROSE: Exactly. Do continue to do the work of your gods in the world, dear one.
DENISE: And Paul, you’re the mouthpiece now for the Seth concepts.
ROSE: One of them. So are you, dear one!
DENISE: I know. I’m just saying he had the dream about it so he found it very sweet to be the mouthpiece.
ROSE: Exactly. Very sweet indeed, as was your interpretation of your Rose self when you channeled Rose. In a sense you had to do so in your way of getting the information you do with Rose. You experienced a similar state as you’re in now with Rose. So do continue to exchange with Rose in this way. That was in many ways us without needing to exert any influence on your essence-self. We were that self also, at that moment.
DENISE: I could feel it.
ROSE: So do continue to take on the world in beautiful, essence-like ways so as to allow the best selves you can be, so as to allow the best universes you have in your future, indeed.
So we want to share only one more thought tonight: that is to rest assured you’ll be asked to share your ideas on how you’re going to get together as women in your circles, indeed. Okay?
PAUL: Can I ask one other question? A month ago, at the end of our session, you told all of us there was going to be a pleasant surprise, to expect a present surprise in the coming week.[20] And so those of us that were here were put on call to be observing and paying attention.
ROSE: Did you have one?
PAUL: Well, as the week went on, and I started to assimilate the challenge and the energy, I realized there are two main possibilities: it can either be a mass event that will be all over the media that we will all share, like someone discovered a new whatever or landed on wherever or found whatever, and everybody’s really excited about that, or it’d be something individualized.
Nothing happened on a mass scale that I was aware of that qualified, because I had it in the back of my mind, but I did have one event that was a pleasant surprise. In my case, it was a financial investment that shot up amazingly. It had been trickling down a little bit since I’d made it in the previous month, and it shot way up. So that was very good news for me that week.
ROSE: Any other ideas about your experiences being pleasant surprises, dear ones?
PAUL: Caryn and Nardine, since you were both at the session.
CARYN: Well I had what I thought was a bad week, but then it turned out to be a good week because it was bad. It was the way I handled the badness of it that was good. I think I grew.
PAUL: That was a pleasant surprise?
DENISE: That’s what Joyce was talking about – celebrate the bad.
ROSE: Exactly.
PAUL: Yes, Joyce was saying celebrate the negative.
ROSE: That’s why you need to allow these surprises to occur. Did you have any other ideas about this exercise before we explain a bit?
CARYN: (Smiling) I thought that, in a way, it was somewhat testy, because it’s interesting in itself that everyone was searching in the news and their eyes were glued to the news. Even I was checking the news more often than I normally would, and I think that in itself was interesting.
ROSE: Did you get pleasant surprises in the news also?
CARYN: I don’t remember any.
ROSE: Sometimes you have to look a bit deeper to get surprised, at times. That’s all we really were trying to accomplish in that exercise. You have a sense there are reasons to want to explain that things are going beautifully without the sense of surprise. But there are always surprises waiting for you to notice them. You notice them sometimes, but not often. There are reasons to say, “Hey, I didn’t know that! Isn’t that exciting news?!” You don’t have this so much because why? Why do you think you have sometimes lost the idea of surprise in your days?
You have reasons to expect things going certain ways. When you have surprises, you have more expectations about things being better, in some ways, or different, without needing to expect certain ways they will occur. Outcomes are not all they seem to be.
You might say, “Hey, I didn’t realize we were bombing the hell out of the Taliban all this time without our knowledge. That sounds like a very geanius thing right now to do,” in spite of how you may think about bombing others, this isn’t necessarily a geanius thing in itself. But maybe you see ways that open up the future in ways that you’ve never expected before, like there may be a summary ending to this that will happen sooner than later as a result. You may feel there are reasons to want to achieve this end to the war sooner than later.[21]
So you realize how the surprises have ways of forcing new outcomes onto your thinking without your even expecting that, indeed. Okay? So do continue to do the surprise exercise to notice how very many wonderful things there are to be surprised about, indeed, in your days.
Okay, so we’ll allow the weary girl to end her day, for she’s a bit tired tonight. So do take on your fierce goddesshood as much as possible. We’ll look forward to your report next time. Okay, dear ones?
PAUL: All-righty.
GROUP: Thank you.
ROSE: Okay. We’ll say adieu for now. We love you and thank you as well, dear ones.
(Rose Departs: 7:05 PM.)
(Transcribed by Dan Feeney, August 15, 2009.)
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Endnotes:
[1] Joanne’s note: The neologism (made-up word) “teall” is a combination of tell and teach. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[2] Paul’s note: One of the main points of Rose’s teachings are to learn how to rely on “reminders” of our direct knowing rather than outside sources, which serve as a means to this end. In this way, we incorporate the information into our lives in natural, practical, and helpful ways.
[3] Joanne’s note: See Take on the Changes to Love YourSelf into the Next Phase.
[4] Joyce is founder of the Grandmothers’ World Council (GWC).
[5] Joanne’s note: The neologism (made-up word) “geanius” is a combination of gene and genius. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[6] Joanne’s note: I’m intrigued by this question and picked up on it at the time. The beliefs that women are supposed to be polite and obedient have been detrimental to many cultures. Those may even be attributes of male energy. Feminine energy seems to be by nature wild, senxual, fearless, and contrary, qualities that so desperately need expression in the world. Rose used the word “fierce” later in the session. Rose, I’m putting in my request that you deliver more information about this topic. (She serves as the best Personal Assistant one might imagine.)
[7] Joanne’s note: The neologism (made-up word) “healp” is a combination of heal and help. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[8] Joanne’s note: The neologism (made-up word) “chreation” is a combination of create and Christ. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[9] Paul’s note: Treantea is of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words). It is the action of exploring multiple probable outcomes for any major decision to help tease out hidden benefits that we often overlook when giving into conventional thinking and automatic responses. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[10] Joanne’s note: I did go out dancing with the friend Rose mentioned. The “local pub” is a bar frequented by locals and truckers, mostly male. One of them commented, “It’s nice to see women dancing.” It occurred to me that anyplace where women can dance, free from fear and danger, is a healthy place, and feels sacred.
[11] Joanne’s note: Joyce gifted me with a crone ceremony on November 24, 2007, days before my 50th birthday. It was a transformational experience that I’d encourage everyone to consider doing for themselves and each other. The first public group Rose session was that evening, too (see After the Crone Ceremony).
[12] Joanne’s note: Sontering is the practice of breathing in essence.
[13] Joanne’s note: The neologism (made-up word) “senxual” is a combination of sexual and sensual. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.
[14] Joanne’s note: There are many examples of how lack of information sharing among women has resulted in propagation of falsehoods that harm and suppress them, especially information about their own bodies. As recently as the last century, some women relied on doctors to induce orgasms to cure “hysteria”. The revealing Hite Report (1976) disputed commonly held assumptions about female orgasm. These underlying myths and assumptions would most naturally be discussed and corrected in caring communities of women. In keeping women separate, uninformed, and powerless, we cheat ourselves of the most practical and profound knowledge about our bodies, our minds, and life itself. It’s no wonder that atrocities such genital mutilation or any crime against women or men – based on this kind of widespread, socially acceptable ignorance – occur.
[15] Joanne’s note: Sounds a lot like conscious channeling.
[16] Joanne’s note: What is Enlightenment? is a magazine that (soon after this session) renamed itself EnlightenNext.
[17] Joanne’s note: Reality by Design was a radio program provided by our friends Mark Bukator and Serge Grandbois, who channels Kris.
Paul’s note: For more information, listen to the April 9, 2009 podcast.
[18] Joanne’s note: The record will note that Ken and Barbie had no genitalia.
[19] Joanne’s note: According to Wikipedia, Ramala, or Ramallah, is a Palestinian city on the central West Bank. The potential discrepancy was noted by Rose, who said were two cities by that name during the timeframe she was discussing, one in Egypt and the other in what became Jerusalem. The current day Ramala is six miles north of the current city of Jerusalem.
[20] Paul’s note: For more info, see Session 340, March 14, 2009.
[21] Joanne’s note: I had recently learned that the U.S. military had been secretly bombing the Taliban in Afghanistan. I am not a proponent of bombing, and feel most conflicts can be resolved through more positive, systemic means. I also don’t completely trust the U.S. government and military to do the right thing, especially when it comes to secretly bombing people! I do believe that those who cause pain and suffering need to be stopped. So I didn’t know for sure that this action was right, especially since the Afghani government reported many civilian deaths. But the Afghani government is part of the problem (as is the U.S. government in some ways). So when I heard about the action, I was surprised in a way that could be described as hopeful because I sensed that in this one case it may have been the best thing to do to, that suffering might soon end for many millions of people, and that the U.S. military might be more trustworthy than I’d thought. It wasn’t a rational thing, because how can I know what the best way is to end the war, if it needs ending? It felt like it was okay to trust that things are going as they should, in spite of how I may think about or judge them.
