“Be Care-less about Things You Can’t Control”

“A Fine Fiery Broad!”

“Strings of Gold, Silver, and Bronze”

“Perfection is a Phantom”

“What if God, or Essence, is Busy?”

“Rose is Similar to Seth II and Seth III”

Session 294 (Group/Dinner & A Dead Gal)

Saturday, September 20, 2008

Participants: Joanne (Tyl), Paul (Caroll), Joyce (Rosalie), Caryn, George, Mary (Geordan), Nardine (Daisy), and Rumi the cat.

(Rose Arrives: 4:35 PM. Arrival time 9 seconds.)

ROSE: The wearing of the guilt about the election is altogether beneath you, dear ones. (Paul chuckles) You don’t need to fear anything about the election.[1] In some ways, the election is behind you already.

So don’t wrong on yourselves for fearing the contrary outcomes that will, in some ways, play out. But do take in the appreciation that the essences so very much want to tell you: that you’re not in charge always. So don’t fear that the elections you seek to have certain outcomes about are in your control, they’re not. So don’t fear that you’re not doing enough.

You’re doing fearfully the things you need to care-lessly, in some ways. You need to be care-less, in many ways. We’ll say that again. Be care-less about some things so as to allow the best self to thrive. You don’t need to fear the outcomes that you don’t have in your control.

These are the essence things that the wearing of care-lessness care deeply for, in every way, in essence.[2] So don’t fear the beating of the best man, in your terms. Only fear the things that you [can] control, in the sense that you [can] control the things you fear.[3]

You can control the things that bring you the information about fearing, that you control. But to say that you can’t control things is a very big understatement. You can’t control everything. We do, though. So, contrary to your beliefs about chreating[4] the world and everything in it, you’re correct, if you seek to allow yourself to beautifully chreate as essence.

But you can allow yourself to relax a bit in regard to what you cannot control. So don’t wrong on yourselves for doing that. Only fear the things you can allow yourselves to correct in your way of spirit, then allow the elections to be what they will be, indeed. So do so.

We’ll allow your questions now, dear ones. We’ll say a bit more about fear in the future, but for now we’ll want to say that you are wanting to ask questions. So do so, dear ones, indeed.

JOYCE: I have a question, and that is, instead of being fearful about what we have the ability to change, I think we need to move towards more positive ways of thinking, and start visualizing some of the outcomes we want, and doing the things that we might be able to move it.

I think the things that have happened on the global scene in the last two weeks not only are showing us what’s real – rather than what we would like to feel and believe is a fairy tale – but we think it is also going to really make a different impact on this election. And there’s a reason it’s happening right now.

ROSE: Take care to not wrong yourself into not believing the things you need to about the future. Some things don’t reasonably articulate themselves, when you visualize them, in the same ways that you may think that they do.

The things that you visualize sometimes come true, sometimes do not come true. The visualizations have more to do with your “better self” wanting the best for you. So you tell yourselves that the future is bright, but sometimes it is not bright. Sometimes the future is not bright at all, dear ones.

So don’t wrong on yourselves for being the perfect chreations that you want to be in your minds. Only try to realize that you can visualize things to help you in the present only. The thing to realize is that whatever happens, your essence is what is in charge. So when you don’t realize the things in your futures that you think are perfectly appropriate, for you visualize them, try to realize that the world is not supposed to be perfect, dear ones.

The world is supposed to be very fucked up (Paul chuckles), in some ways. So don’t wrong on yourselves when things go badly. These are the way you chreated your world, so don’t fear that you didn’t visualize enough, you did, sometimes. But to say this another way: the point of power is in your present. So when you realize visualizations of a bright future, you’re chreating a future probability, only that in some respects [it] may be realized by someone else besides your beautiful self.

So don’t wrong on yourselves when things don’t go the way your ego selves want things to go. Realize that they’re there for your understanding, as well as wanting you to fear less about the things that you think, in many ways, need to occur, then allow them. That’s all you need to do. Simply trust as well as allow, then simply be in the world as the beautiful, imaginative, chreations that you are.

For you’re wanting to express that perfection is in the air, so to speak. But it is, in some ways, always there in your terms, even when it’s fucked up. So don’t expect to achieve perfection in your lifetimes. Indeed, there [are] some ways of fealing[5] that it’s always perfect, even in its fucked-up-ness, indeed. So when you fear less, you’ll really get that expression that there’s always goodness, as well as geanius[6] in every act that you take on.

So do take on the pressures, as well as the problems of the world in order to express to yourselves that you’re wonderful creatures in realizing the worst-case scenario. [This] is truly the thing you need sometimes: to express that you’re truly wanting to allow yourselves to be your saviors, indeed. So don’t wrong on yourselves for not fixing the planet – you can’t do that– but you can try to. So do so.

And we’ll continue to answer your questions, dear ones. Indeed. We love them, indeed, dear ones.

GEORGE: I’ve got a list of them.

ROSE: Okay.

PAUL: I have a quick one, while we’re on this topic of mass events and the election. In the last week, the financial markets have been in incredible turmoil. They’ve been in turmoil for the last year or so, and our capitalist system is not based on a sustainable model. And we always have elements of competition and cooperation working with and against each other. You can’t get away from them. You can’t have it all competition and no cooperation. You can’t have all cooperation and no competition. So those two elements are sort of at the core.

And yet, it seems that in our case, with this capitalist economy, and the banks and the small elite cadres of business folk just trying to squeeze the most out of whatever pyramid scheme they can to generate trillions of dollars of wealth and then the whole thing collapses.

And it’s about to steamroll, and they’re going to lose everything, and the government has to step in, and Joe Q. Public and the taxpayer has to bear the burden like we did with the S&L scandal in the eighties of billions and billions, and in this case it’s probably trillions of dollars – unimaginable wealth.

Not to mention, while I’m on my soapbox, the billions that we have invested in the Iraq fiasco that could have been spent on other things. It’s enough to be upset about. Anyway, the point I would like you to address, Rose, deals with the financial system and what your view is of what is happening now and what will be happening in the not too distant future with our financial system. It’s not a sustainable situation.

ROSE: You have the answers in your weaning of your fears about the world, in a sense. The fears you have are in every way the fears the wearing of the democratic sticker has, also. That is, that you fear only the worst-case scenario, but you don’t allow yourselves to – contrary to your beliefs – say what’s on your mind about things. There are reasons for the (Jo chuckles) fucked-up-ness that you’re experiencing now.

Why do you say that the [world’s] problems have to do with you? Indeed. Because they do, they want you to want them to be fixed. Correct? That is the way of spirit – to take on the world, in many ways. When you do, you express what? Your intentionality. That’s exactly why you need to express the contrary self – to tell the world that you don’t want to take that stuff anymore.

When was the last time you expressed to anyone – other than the individuals that you think agree with you – about how tough the world is, as well as how you’d like to believe that the world can do much better? You don’t. You stick to the rules, you don’t express the things you have on your beautiful minds, then you realize suffering as well as frustration that the world isn’t the way you want it to be. Then you do what? You wrong on yourselves for not doing enough, when all you want to do is express to the world that the things you have in mind are so much better than the things that are occurring. Correct?

PAUL: Mmhm.

ROSE: To say that another way, you need to be contrary in your world. You need to allow yourselves to piss people off. You need to allow yourselves to be the contrary selves that are in your very hearts. These are your essence selves crying out for you to say the things you need to say in words, in writings, in the provision of being difficult at times.

You need to express Self, as well as spirit, in ways that are very nice… not! They are not nice ways. They are truly comfortable… not! They are truly compassionate… not! That is a test – they are compassionate. They have ways of being in the world that are compassionate in ways that are unpopular at times, then they chreate the compassionate ways that you need to be in your world. You only need to allow your best expressions, dear ones. That’s all you need to do.

Sometimes the best expressions are piping up when you need to, cussing at times, saying the things you need to express, in ways that sometimes come out as toads and frogs, in ways that you’d find even embarrassing at times. But why you would not encourage yourselves to be that “frog speaker,” indeed, is beyond your will, as well as beyond your fear.

So don’t fear, only try to express the things you need to, then do find ways to express them. For you only need to allow yourselves to fear less in order to do so. So take on the Barack Obama’s, even when you don’t feel he’s doing enough to say what’s on his mind. The way you have of fearing things even permeates his speech, indeed.

Why isn’t he holding the Keating Five[7] responsible for the financial crisis you’re in now? Why is he pulling punches in regard to how John McCain expresses how he is so very entitled to being your president, when he was, indeed, part of the problem in the first place? Why is even Barack Obama – that beautiful, encouraging man – fearing his ideas of having light in the world?

Because you’re expressing to yourselves that your world is in chaos now. It needs to not be in chaos now. It needs to be moving into the shift now, as well as knowing that in your future you’ll, indeed, straighten things out. But for now, you need to say the things you need to. Scream them from your rooftops if you need to, you’re “mad as hell and you’re not going to take it anymore,” dear ones. (Mary chuckles)

So do so. Then try to fear less about how the world perceives you, for we love you always. Why, there’s never anyone else besides spirit, indeed, dear ones. So don’t wrong on yourselves for fearing the future, only try to allow yourselves to fear less about how you express what’s in your hearts, as well as in your minds. Okay?

Now we’re being very passionate this evening. We want to say that your weany girl is, indeed, getting her fears about public performances out of the way, as well as allowing herself to be courageous, as well as carefree. There are things you can do, in many ways, to be the same person she is.

So don’t wrong on yourselves for fearing that others will wrong on you for expressing what you need to. Do fear only the things you can control,[8] then allow yourselves to be changing the course, as you need to so as to allow yourselves to fear less, then trust that (Slowly stated) your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. We’re being extremely religious here, perhaps, but realize that there are some very geanius things about that, as well as fearing not the things you can’t allow into your days.

So do so, dear ones. And we’ll allow your questions now, unless we’ve, indeed, begun to fear in ways that you….

PAUL: We’re getting out the pitchforks and the torches, and we’re marching on Washington! (Laughing with others)

ROSE: Indeed, chase those bastards away. (Laughter and folks talking over each other)

MARY: You know, about what Rose said about why no one’s bringing up the obvious is because it raises the ugly specter of Reagan. Because this all goes back to deregulation and Reagan, and no one – even Obama – wants to piss on grandpa, even though everyone should be pissing on grandpa.

PAUL: Right.

MARY: He started the current problem that we’re in, a really long time ago, and I think that it’s actually kind of a good thing that this happening now. Because I think that it will actually bring regulation back. But that’s all I really want to say about it. (Chuckles)

ROSE: Now, that’s a very interesting comment, dear one. Regulation is sometimes the same as deregulation, in a sense. The regulation was there, but you didn’t need that, really. When you realize that spirit has ways of regulating – that is why you’re fearing that essence isn’t in charge, it is. Unless you fear that regulation is bad, you’ll realize that un-regulation is not bad.

So to say that another way, regulation is good, sometimes, right?

MARY: Yes!

ROSE: You have many wonderful beliefs about regulation already that, in some ways, do not suit you. Regulation is good. You have many beliefs about regulation that need to come to the fore. So you can expect that regulation is what? Good, at times. Right?

MARY: Yes.

ROSE: Regulation has many rules about it, doesn’t it?

MARY: Yes.

ROSE: Sometimes you don’t like rules, do you? Not like rules.

MARY: Depends on the rules! (Paul chuckles)

ROSE: In many ways, you don’t like rules, but rules are what?

MARY: Necessary.

ROSE: Exactly! Extremely necessary to allow yourselves to thrive. So rules are what? Good sometimes. So regulation has a bad rep’ – okay? – in your world right now. But you’re realizing that blue meme values, dear one, in integral terms – amber, in Wilber’s terms – have the best ways of spirit about them.[9]

You need regulations. You need rules. You need to allow others to thrive by tuning into the best selves that they can be. Regulations help them. Not everyone has the same berth that you have about the world. You need them to have rules, more than you do sometimes. Okay? You have the sense that there is wrong, as well as right. Not everyone does, as well as not everyone will, dear ones.

So trust that regulations are very good at times. So you’re realizing that (Jo chuckles) FDR is your grandpa now, isn’t he, dear ones?[10]

MARY: (Laughing) I would call him my favorite dead boyfriend. (Group laughter)

ROSE: You’re getting on your geanius curve now, Mary. (Mary and Paul chuckle) You have the sense that FDR had it right all the time. Indeed. He had polio, he had many privileges that you did not growing up. But to say that he’s your grandpa is perhaps the best image you might control others with.

Youse[11] FDR as your grandpa rather than Reagan to express that your grandpa has to share the wealth, indeed, in spirit. Try to imagine FDR as being with you now, helping you, dear ones. Okay?

MARY: Okay!

ROSE: You need him right now, don’t you?

MARY: Every day. (Paul chuckles)

ROSE: Don’t “Reaganize” yourselves…

MARY: Not me! (Chuckles with Paul)

ROSE: …dear ones. You need to only hold FDR in your hearts, then allow him to be chreating the New World with you.[12] For he is with you in a very big way tonight, also. He loves that this conversation is occurring. He has to say that he is expressing that he has many falloups – F-A-L-L-O-U-P-S – not fallouts, as he has expressed in his times – fallouts of spirit, fallouts of economy – but he has many falloups that need to occur, in order to allow the New World to arrive.[13]

So don’t wrong on yourselves for wanting a better grandpa, dear ones. You need that right now. So do look to him to help you, indeed, now. Okay?

Now we’ll allow questions tonight also. We’ll say a few words more about wronging yourselves. But for now, please do take on Rose in your questions.

PAUL: George had a question.

GEORGE: (Humorously) Rose, the way you came out today, you make a “fine fiery broad” you know? (Laughs) A sexy broad (Chuckling) on the warpath. Your passion is right there. (Jo and Paul chuckle) That was kind of sexy, you know.

PAUL: We’re going to quote you on that, “A fine fiery broad!” (Laughter on the phone) There’s a title for you, Nardine. (Mary laughs)

GEORGE: I was going to go a different way with my questions. I was going to ask if you had something to add to what Elias and Seth have talked about, creating your own reality. The way I see it, I am essence. I create my own reality. Yet, essence has the last word, and I know in my everyday life it seems like I’m not the one who has the last word! Essence has.

ROSE: Indeed.

GEORGE: (Exclaiming) I’d like my essence to be more cooperative, goddamn it! (Laughs)

ROSE: For also, in some ways, you do allow essence to have the last word, but sometimes, dear one, you do also have the last word. When you fear, you have the last word.

GEORGE: I knew fear was going to be the whole thing today. I even talked to Diablo. I said fear is going to be in today’s topic, I know it. I understand that, and I’m trying to play with all the ideas that these other fellows put up on the table before you. Is there anything that you can add on that could probably make me understand a little bit more, so I can be a little bit more creative in creating my reality?

ROSE: You can express to yourself to not fear so much, because when you fear, you disallow how spirit wants to move in your ways. So don’t fear so much, and you’ll allow more spirit into your days so as to appreciate the fine things that she, in many ways, will make happen for you.

So don’t fear, that’s all you’ll need to know for now, so as to not get in your way, in a sense. That’s all. Just trust and allow. That’s why we say that so often. You only need to allow essence to do her part, then allow that beautiful stuff to occur. That’s all, dear one. Okay? So don’t fear, that’s all George, dear one.

GEORGE: Alright.

PAUL: You know Rose has a habit of simplifying things. Having spent four days with my fellow “Sethies,” you know it’s a very intellectual bunch and we enjoy that sort of exploration.[14] But it has its own limitations.

As I sit here and take my notes – reducing fear, getting out of your way, trust and allow – these are little mantras.

GEORGE: Now hold on. Let me go back to Rose. I know what you’re saying. She just said something that reminded me that throughout the day I try to be – as much as I can – aware of myself, feelings and what’s happening, my reaction, action, what’s going on.

Now, maybe I’m a dumbbell, but fear is certain things, let’s say, like what happened recently. But the majority of time I don’t feel it. So if I don’t feel it, that means I’m not aware of it, then how do I notice it better, then? Do I have to have like a car almost hit me, and say, “Holy shit, I wet my pants?” Now if there’s a subtle fear, I’m there, I’ve got to get it out and recognize it and neutralize it, right? So, go ahead Rose.

ROSE: You don’t need to be hit by a car to understand that you don’t need to fear. You only need to not fear. The things you do to allow fear are to stuff your pride into your gunnysack of feelings so as to not express to the bullies, for example, that you’ll do better with other authorities in charge. You’ll do better to express to your beautiful, godlike wife that you’ll not allow her to express that she is in charge here.

GEORGE: (Puzzled) Wife? What the hell are you talking about?

ROSE: Your ex-wife, that is.

GEORGE: Oh, my ex-wife. I got scared. (Laughs with others)

ROSE: We’re not making a crystal ball prediction here, dear one. You’ll feal better also when you allow yourself to express what you need to. Don’t fear that exchanges with her in every way harm [your daughter] Sarah. They don’t. They only need to be expressed, then allowed to take on the courage that you have in also informing the authorities about how you’re doing with regard to her. You have many individuals who wish to help you, in spirit as well as in physical reality.

So don’t allow her to call the shots, only express to her what you need to, then tell the authorities to step in.

Indeed, that’s been Rose’s explanation of how to take on bullies all along: to sit on them, to step on them at times, but also to tell the authorities about them, too. For you have a beautiful structure in place in regard to governing the bullies. So why not use that to help you? Indeed, you have that in spirit also. So take on the bullies. Don’t wrong on yourself into thinking you need to fear them or be nice to them, you don’t. You only need to allow them to not do that anymore.

GEORGE: So I should take back my deposit from the hit man? (Everyone laughs)

ROSE: We’ll strike that from the record, dear ones! (More laughter)

PAUL: He was joking!

JOANNE: For the record! (More laughter)

GEORGE: (Exclaiming clearly) I don’t know any Italians in California!

ROSE: For the record, we know that you’ve been very patient. And you do not, indeed, hire hit men to take your problems to the next level, dear ones. Okay? So we’ll say that you’re correct, that you don’t need to hire them, you only need to hire the authorities that you’ve bought already.

GEORGE: Well, it seems that things are rolling.

ROSE: Indeed, the authorities are stepping in, aren’t they? To help you, indeed. Why not trust authorities to help you…

GEORGE: Oh, I am.

ROSE: …instead of not trusting authorities to help you. You have many beliefs about not trusting authorities to help you, also.

GEORGE: See that’s what I’m talking about. There’s certain things I have to….

ROSE: Don’t fear the authorities. Use them to help you. That’s what they’re there for. Insist on it.

GEORGE: Alright.

ROSE: Okay. So do so. (To Joyce) Yes, dear one.

JOYCE: I’m surprised at some things that are going through here, because they are going through my head the last few days, getting ready to come. I may be making a bigger claim of some synchronicity here.

Number one, in trying to figure out my intent name, which I still haven’t… (Chuckles) I was talking about communication and teaching, but I think after hearing you speak, I’m talking about becoming my contrary self more openly. So that’s number one.

Number two, it dawned on me recently that every problem needs a solution. And most of us when we get a problem, we want to deny it, we want to run for the hills, we want to forget about, and we, “Oh me,” and all this fear comes out.

But actually, until you discover the problem or allow it into your reality, you will not find the solution. So if we could begin – and I think I’m trying to do this with myself – to look at this not so much “goodie goodie,” but, “I have a problem, Houston,” you know? (Chuckles) And now what do I do?

And at least I’m at a place of discovery, maybe some reality, and now I have some power in the moment point. And so I’m beginning to think, okay, so accept your problems, you now have a chance to solve them, and you can learn something. So that’s the second thing that’s going on.

And the third one was stop fearing, and trusting, and what will be, will be. And the next thing is to accept what is and go with it the best you can, or be this contrary self, which I seem to find in myself many, many times. In other words make peace with that role that I’m playing.

ROSE: Indeed, dear one. You only need to express the contrary self, not to be the contrary self. There’s a big difference. For you’re wanting to express that only, not be that all the time. That’s not what you’re here for, to always be the contrary self. You only need to allow that sometimes. Okay? So do so.

Then allow yourself to realize that the problems you have only need solutions (Slowly) one time only. You only need to allow them to be solved, then move on. You don’t need to only use the problem to continue to berate yourself at times for the things you don’t do correctly, in your mind only. You don’t need to, for example, continue to “solution” everything. Some things have no solutions. Some things need to be left to die, for example. There’s no wronging on yourself for allowing that to occur.

We’re not suggesting that anyone in particular is dying – they are always dying, in some ways – but you can express to yourself that some things don’t need living. Some things don’t need value fulfillment, in many ways. You don’t need to express to yourselves that you need to allow provisions of hurt: they can die also. Dying is a very geanius thing you’ve chreated in your inventions in the world. Dying takes place in ways that are truly beautiful. The things you need to allow to die are the things that you’re fooling with now.

In some ways, you’re fooling around with death, in things that need to die. But you perpetuate them, in some ways, by allowing yourself to not let them go. You need to allow them to die, sometimes, dear one. So do so. That is your Rose speaking now. We have many reasons for saying this, because you need to allow things to die, like your preconception that the world needs saving. That is one thing you could let die. That is a thing that is big for many individuals, not just you.

The preconception that the world needs saving is – unless you’re saviors – is not exciting to anyone. Now we’re testing you a bit, indeed, because you’re, indeed, saviors. But you also need to allow yourselves to not fear that you won’t save the world. You will, in every way, do so. But you can express to yourselves that the world in some ways doesn’t need saving. This is a very big topic to take on this evening, but try to express to yourselves that you don’t need to save the world, but you do in your own ways – you also do need to express to the world that it is beautiful exactly the way it is. So do so.

And we’ll also say that you’re correct that the problems you have are, in every way, wanting to be solved. But don’t try to solve them, allow essence to try to solve them, then “Let go, let God,” as they say, in order to allow you to thrive in ways you’re not now.

You’re wanting to move into areas that you can’t control, dear one. You need to allow yourself to be the beautiful flower that you are, and not take on the things you can’t control, so as to dampen your spirits, ever. Okay?

JOYCE: Thank you.

ROSE: So learn to let and allow God to take control also. So do so. Then you’ll realize how very wonderful your expressions are also, for you need only to allow essence into your days, so as to try to let go of the need to see things as problems at times, dear one. Okay? Indeed, so do so.

We’ll allow your questions now. In every way, you’re doing a wonderful job of allowing Rose to take on a new version of herself this evening. We’re only wanting to express that the weany girl is, indeed, trying to let go, let God (Jo chuckles) herself. So do take on spirit in ways that are carefree, as well as courageous.

We’ll say a few words about this in a moment, but do allow your questions tonight, dear ones.

PAUL: Just one quick follow-up. When you say, “let go and let God,” you’re really referring to essence, right? You’re not claiming to be speaking for God, right?

ROSE: (Jo chuckles) We’ll say that we’re God in many ways, but you’ll do well to allow God to be in His – ontologically speaking – plane of existence. God does exist, but not in the same way that Rose does. We’ll say more about this, but for now we’ll say that God does exist, but he’s very contentedly allowing himself to enjoy life in a retirement community this evening, dear ones. (Group chuckles)

So do allow your questions about essence, but know that God does exist, we know him well. He looks like (Jo chuckles) FDR.

PAUL: And he’s got a grey beard and he lives on top of a mountain. (Group chuckles)

GEORGE: But wait a minute. What if God, or essence, is busy? Are they ever busy? So let’s say you need help, you say essence will assist, what if essence is busy at that moment? (Paul chuckles)

ROSE: Well, we are always busy, dear George. But we’re also allowing you to allow us to assist you at any time also. There’s busy, and then there’s busy, indeed.

GEORGE: I have a question. I’m still stuck in this creating reality, right? So let’s take, if we may, the scenario of my situation that’s going on right now, you just spoke about it briefly earlier.

Now, all the characters in this play, some of them are oblivious to us, some of them know us, some of them want to help, some of them don’t want to help. Now is essence there, the essence of all these characters are just sitting there watching this battleground down there, and they’re going to wait on us to start making the moves, and they’ll decide in the moment what the outcome will be? Or how is this going to work? I mean, whatever I’m going to do, essence will assist, I know.

Rose says, “Don’t worry George, don’t be afraid, let it happen, essence will assist,” fine. But still, you say essence is going to assist, but sometimes it looks like essence is busy.

ROSE: You’re correct that sometimes essence is busy – busy doing what essence does – supporting you only, you only. We mean you only. There’s no reason to ever feal that essence is ever not only wanting your satisfaction. There’s no reason to believe that essence is ever busy. He cares about your every being in every moment – every being, meaning every being that you might consider being.

GEORGE: Okay. But now we talk about emotions – how strong the emotion is – so now my essence is here, and the other person’s essence is next, they’re going to say well, that focus’ emotion is so much stronger, maybe we should grant that one the wish they actually want to happen in the scenario. And your focus has to kind of wait for a little while, because he or she has to shift a little bit to learn the subtle lessons, what experience, or whatever.

Is this the way it works, it’s almost like a chess game? It seems like there are strings being pulled, and you say that essence will actually make the decisions for you. So okay, I want to participate in creating my reality, yet there’s someone backstage who’s pulling the strings, who will make the ultimate decision for this focus, or whatever focus is involved, in whatever interaction that is happening.

ROSE: You’re pulling the strings. We’re providing the strings to pull. You need strings to pull, we do that well. You only need to allow us to provide the right strings for you. So every string that you might pull is okay by us. You only need to allow yourself to pull the ones you need to be satisfied.

To say that another way, you need to allow essence to give you the best strings possible.

GEORGE: Did you say dreams?

ROSE: Strings.

GEORGE: Oh, strings.

JOYCE: I have a question.

ROSE: Indeed.

JOYCE: Is it not possible that both essences actually help the focus personalities – and I use plural – to each get their own vision, even if they’re not totally the same? Because there are probable worlds, and we forget about that.

So each can actually experience what it is that their hearts want the most, and they believe is correct, and they may not quite be in the same world. And they may have that same focus personality in the world, but one who believes slightly different, or perhaps they’re trying to look at some contrariness there.

GEORGE: Then you deal with intent, value fulfillment, all this other stuff, you know.

JOYCE: And probabilities.

GEORGE: There you go. Did you have to make my life even more screwed up? (Laughing with Joyce and others)

JOYCE: Mine is just as screwed. (More laughter)

ROSE: Your worlds are – contrary to your beliefs – never screwed up, in some ways. You only fear that they are. But when you realize that they are not, what do you do? Trust. You trust more when you realize that there’s no need to fear that you’re doing something incorrectly. You only need to trust that essence has the strings you need to allow yourself to be beautifully chreating your reality.

Now, we’re not saying that we don’t chreate your reality – you, as essence, chreate your reality – but sometimes we do step in. You need to have us step in because you sometimes fear too much. So when you’re fearing too much, we do what? We control you? Not at all. You may think that we do, but we do not.

That’s why you’re chreating the reality. You’re doing that now. You’re fearing not the things that you’ll want to do with your lives. Free will is the thing you have chreated to help you learn about yourselves. So free will has ways of allowing you to fear less about the things you chreate. Why? Because you realize that free will has many, what? Barriers to it.

You won’t freewill yourselves into oblivion, ever, for example. You won’t freewill yourselves into death. You won’t freewill yourselves into accidents that you don’t want to chreate for yourselves. Why not consider that free will is a set of strings that we chreate for you to learn from, to allow yourselves to choose the strings you want to, to allow yourselves to be the best selves you can be. Pulling your own strings is the key idea here. So do so.

Then allow yourselves to realize wonder at the very incredible chreations that you invent every day. When you realize how to pull the right strings is when you’ll understand how very intentional your lives are. The intention has to do with pulling the right strings here, dear ones. That’s all. Intentionally pulling the strings you want to is the key idea here.

GEORGE: So the strings are involved with the way you pick the right probabilities, that’s the way it works, no?

ROSE: Not exactly. The probabilities have to do with what occurs after you pull the strings. The strings have ways of pulling other strings, so to speak. So probabilities have to do with allowing yourself to realize how many provisions of permutations have to occur when you pull each string, in a sense.

So you realize probabilities when you reach for your strings, but you don’t need to wrong yourselves into choosing certain strings in the process. You only need to allow yourselves to learn to pull the correct strings for your chreations, that’s all. You’re realizing pulling strings, but you’re also realizing what ones to not pull at the same time.

GEORGE: You can also snag yourself on a string, you also hang yourself. (Laughs)

ROSE: You can indeed. (Group laughs) Exactly. Tie yourselves up completely, also.

PAUL: Can I come at this from another angle? You always hear a lot of interesting creation stories at a Seth conference, and someone told a story of their brother who packs up his car, he’s off to university – this happened years ago – and he’s just down the block and he comes to a stop sign, and for all his free will and power, he cannot get his foot on the gas pedal. It just will not go on the gas pedal. And he’s attending to that paradox, when all of a sudden a semitrailer goes whizzing right through the intersection.

GEORGE: Was that essence?

PAUL: Now, what made his foot paralyzed? But I have another part to ask about this. It would seem, in that case, that’s an essence override or something with a “good” outcome of obviously a crash not happening, but because it was not in his power, in his focus power. His intent was to move forward, and his foot was paralyzed. It’s very unusual for any of us who drive cars. So that was where we, then, interpret that as an “essence override,” cooperatively to avoid a horrible outcome.

But is there also the opposite of that, where you’re sitting there at the stop sign, and for some reason your foot just floors it and you go right into a semi? Is there another essence override with a bad outcome in our human values? And therefore, should we fear essence and these strings, because that’s kind of where George is going with this. It’s like, should I be afraid and paranoid of the “essence override,” the essence veto power? Since you’re saying essence calls the shots. So just the hell with it!?

GEORGE: That’s the “f’ing” part, I’m essence, everything is essence, yet I’m not calling the shots. I pull the strings (Humorously) but I’m not calling the shots.

PAUL: Yet I am! (Laughing)

GEORGE: I’m not a puppet maker. I’m just the puppeteer, somehow.

PAUL: I’m lost in a hall of mirrors.

JOYCE: What if you were supposed to experience that accident? If you look at it that way, then it is an essence override, not a pleasant one, by any means. You could look at it and play with it ad nauseam, but you know….

PAUL: Well, then I would look at the outcomes. Does the outcome of that horrible accident lead to much more fulfillment that would not have occurred otherwise? In other words, is there a silver lining?

JOYCE: Like Christopher Reeves.

PAUL: Yeah, Chris Reeves.

GEORGE: Let’s look at it this way. Remember what she said about Roosevelt? He had some privileges like being in a wheelchair.[15] So for you and I, that’s not a privilege, but obviously that gave him a certain, probably more time to think of things, more things to take care of.

PAUL: Like Stephen Hawking, the physicist.

GEORGE: And Rose’s idea is that he was privileged in that way. So as a human you say what, is she insane? (Chuckling) You know what I mean?

PAUL: I know. I wouldn’t have chosen that if I had the choice.

JOYCE: But what are the alternatives? We don’t know what the alternatives might have been.

GEORGE: But you know, who knows? I was just reading Elias material today, and it said… you know what? It reminded me of my own life. You can live in a relationship – you’re married – and you think that your spouse is totally faithful to you. And you believe that, and to you, it is real. Yet to the spouse it’s not.

JOYCE: Mmhm.

GEORGE: This happened to me. If somebody asks you, you’d put your hand in the fire for your spouse.

JOYCE: Right.

GEORGE: So obviously, me and my ex, we live in the same reality, but on different planes – exactly what you were just saying earlier. Remember, you were saying earlier that some person this and that?

JOYCE: Yeah.

GEORGE: And I’m kind of relating to that, so it’s like, all these puzzles. The funny thing is, you can get these puzzles, and they say they can make six figures. But with essence puzzles, you can make infinite. (Joyce chuckles)

ROSE: Exactly.

GEORGE: That’s the scary part.

ROSE: As well you can, as well as you do.

GEORGE: I mean scary in the sense, like, scary in a good way.

PAUL: There you go, that’s the good part. Scary in a good way is a challenge.

JOYCE: We have to grow as a humanity.

GEORGE: So when she says we have free will, she means well, fuck it, you’ve got enough freedom to make whatever puzzle you want of what I’m giving you. Or do you want more puzzles, then I’ll give you more. That’s the strings, you know?

JOYCE: String theory.

GEORGE: Am I not a geanius, Rose?

ROSE: Indeed. (Paul chuckles)

GEORGE: A couple of stars. (Chuckles with others)

ROSE: You are indeed, dear one, George. Indeed, you are a very big mind also. (Much laughter and chuckling)

GEORGE: Don’t be sarcastic! (Laughing)

ROSE: We’ll begin by saying that you’ll do well to realize that we’re always in charge – essence, that is. [But] you’re also essence.

We understand that you have many ideas about you not being essence, but you are, in human form. This has many respective challenges inherent in the chreation. But to say that you’re better as essence – thinking that you’re essence – is in many ways helping you. Think of yourself as intentional essence in human form.

You have many things you want to express in your human form. You have many things to express in ways that you don’t feal are accurate at times, in accordance with how you feal about essence selves. You have many disbeliefs about essence that do get in your way at times. So you don’t need to fear that you need to only chreate perfection. That’s one belief that gets in your way.

Do take on polio when you need to. Do take on provisions of polio of mind, as well as heart, as well as physical reality. You suffer infirmities, in every way, when you decide to become physical, in some ways – in your many incarnations, that is. So you have polio, in a sense, when you incarnate. Okay?

We’ll say that in a way that makes more sense to you. You have limitations. You have ways of selling yourself short. You have ways of fear. So you don’t need to only fear that you’ll do well as essence, you will. But you also need to allow yourselves some credit for allowing your physical realities to be in the world.

So you don’t have to feal that perfection is the thing at hand. It’s not in any way. Perfection is a phantom, in a sense. Perfection is not real. In every way, we’re not perfect. Rose is not perfect. God is not perfect, in your terms. So don’t fear that perfection is not in the way of spirit. You won’t have that in any way. Okay?

So you’ll do well also to consider that perfection has strings attached, indeed. Perfection is not one of your strings. Perfection is not one of your strings that you’ll ever have. In every way, perfection is a myth. Okay? So you’ll do better to think of a string as being in every way imperfect before you grab it. Imperfection has ways of being perfect in and of itself.

Don’t wrong yourself into thinking you’ll choose the wrong string, either. You don’t need to allow yourself to worry about what string to choose, either. You’ll have many strings involved in your lives. So don’t wrong yourselves into thinking you’ve ever – that’s ever – taken the wrong string.

You’ll do well to consider that some strings are more worthy of you than others, that’s all. You can imagine that some strings are gold, some strings are silver, some strings are bronze. That’s all you need to do. Break the habit of perfection, then allow yourselves to sometimes choose the bronze strings.

You’ll always win in essence. Even when you surprise yourselves into choosing to put your feet on the gas in ways that allow you to learn about how you’ll be disabled, [that’s] even better at times than choosing a bronze string. Sometimes that’s the gold string, dear ones. Indeed.

So don’t wrong yourselves into choosing things that you’ll fear only when you get them. Choose the things that bring you satisfaction, then allow yourselves to wrong yourselves only when you fear. That’s all you need to do. Bronze strings are fine. When you realize how your feet don’t want to move to the gas pedals in order to allow yourselves to thrive, then you’ll discover that the bronze strings only are ever provided you.

There’s no reason to think that a string, in many ways, was ever provided in that situation. We did not provide a string to that gentleman. You did not see him stringing himself into that probable reality where he was run over by a semitrailer. Correct? There was no string involved there. There was no choice involved there. So don’t wrong yourselves into ever thinking that you’ll do better without strings, you won’t. But sometimes you’ll need essence to remove strings for you. Okay?

Now we’ll say that it’s time to have some “dessert of spirit,” for eating is a very good string to have. Indeed, it keeps you well, as well as healthy. So do take on your beautiful dinner this evening. And we’ll allow your questions when we return. Okay, dear ones?

GROUP: Okay, sounds good!

ROSE: We’ll return in a half an hour or so, dear ones.

GROUP: Thanks Rose.

BREAK: 5:38PM.

RESUME: 6:15PM.

ROSE: You’ll do well to allow the footnotes to show how wearing of the courageous badges you are, dear ones. You’re already getting the message about being fearless, in every way, this evening. So do continue to allow yourselves to try to allow your very vocal, wonderful expressions, in order to exist in the world as spirits-in-flesh, so as to allow the best chreations in your world, indeed, dear ones.

So now we’ll allow your questions. But to say one more time, we wear the badge of courage, too. We do tell on your weany girl tonight. She did say that we would. So you’ll continue to have a geanius laugh at her expense. But to say that she did fall on her face on Saturday night would be a very big understatement. She did, in many ways, fall on her face.[16] (Jo laughs)

Now, what do we mean by that? That her face is in every way allowing of that to occur. Her face is a very beautiful (Jo chuckles) face that is in every way willing to do that. Why? Because she has ways of knowing that sometimes that’s what you do. Indeed, you very easily fall on your faces when you least expect that. Why? You only need to fear less.

You only need to allow yourselves to fall, at times. That’s all you need to do. Express to yourselves that you would be able to be better if you didn’t. Right? Wrong! You need to allow falling, to allow your lifting up into the ethos of ideas, as well as supplying yourselves of satisfaction.

So don’t be afraid. Falling on your face is sometimes the exact thing you need to do. Now we’ll also say that she did allow herself to be a beautiful channeler of Rose. That is sometimes not a very easy thing to do. She has to allow Rose to speak through her while being free to think about things, also. When she does this, sometimes she gets involved, that’s how she did not allow her Rose to come through clearly enough for some individuals. But for other individuals, she came through loud as well as clear, in more ways than if she’d been perfect, in your terms.[17]

So her ways of finding fear did help others to allow themselves to consider that sometimes you do fall on your faces so as to fear less the next time. What do you think happened to her in the meantime? She did what?

PAUL: (Humorously) Picked her face up on the floor and put it back on! (Nardine chuckles)

ROSE: Exactly, she also (Joanne and group laughter)…

NARDINE: Gave herself a big cuddle! (More laughter)

GEORGE: She cured her mental polio. (Continued chuckling)

ROSE: She did in many ways – not completely – but she did allow what to occur? She allowed herself to fail. She allowed herself to pick herself up, so as to trust more next time. That’s what the lesson was for her that time.

Now what do you do when you fall down? You do what? You also pick yourselves up, as well as tell yourselves to do better next time. Indeed, why not consider that sometimes when you fail, you achieve more than if you’d have provided yourselves the perfect – contrary to your beliefs – provision of information.

GEORGE: When you fail you don’t feel fear.

ROSE: You do allow fear, in many ways, all the time. This is not existing outside your perception. In many ways, you sort of always have some fear of failure in everything you do. This is sometimes healthy fear. So don’t confuse fear with unhealthy fear. It is, in many ways, there for your best expressions. But sometimes you just get caught up in it, that’s all. So you can say that your fear will say, “Hey, I need you to be more prepared,” for example.

“You need to be allowing us to come through more.” That’s Rolly speaking now. Rolly was a character we invented the other night to assure individuals that the Rose selves were not speaking to them. Why is that? The Seth individuals wear their badges of courage, but are very fearful in many ways. Why is that, beautiful ones? Because they sense that Seth has to do with perfection.

In many ways, they are fearful that their creations will never be as good as Seth’s. Why is that? They don’t realize how very accessible the information is right now. They need Rose to say to them that they need to thrive in more ways than they are now. When they said we don’t fear that much, they did what? They feared that fear. That’s all they did.[18]

So don’t wrong on yourselves for infecting them in ways that you didn’t find satisfactory. You were fine in every way. There was some distortion, but the distortion was minimal, in every way. So don’t wrong on yourselves for not being prepared enough, or not being courageous enough. The courage she showed was, indeed, everything that needed to be communicated, dear ones. Okay?

So don’t wrong on yourselves for the exhibition (Jo chuckles) that you showed them the other night. Try to allow only the best selves to thrive, then realize that the brass string is sometimes the one you need to pull. This is a very geanius example of pulling the bronze string in your minds that is somehow inferior but never wrong, ever, ever, ever. Okay?

So do continue the questions. You’re doing a fabulous job this evening, all of you, in supporting the weany girl in her new phase, dear ones. Okay?

Now we’ll also say – while you’re, contrary to your expectations, allowing yourselves to fear the next thing we’ll say, that’s exactly why we wanted to jump in here – that you’re fearing how you’ll don your courageous hats the next time.

Do consider that when you are courageous, you are sometimes not fearless enough. You need to allow fearlessness only, not courage. We’ll say that there are very few things in difference between them, but to say that courage is geanius is not exactly correct. Courage helps you into situations that you need, sometimes, to fear only, then allow yourselves to turn around and go elsewhere. Courage isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

Courage is sometimes used to allow individuals to fear less, then go into areas that they do not want to go into. The weany girl did not want to do her job the other night. She did fear, she did decide to be courageous, then what did she do? Fall on her face! Why is that? She needed to allow herself to trust Rose more. Why is that? To be less fearful.

So you’re seeing how strings are pulled in every way to allow yourselves to get the lessons, in spite of the fact that you sometimes choose the, quote “wrong one” end quote. Okay? So don’t fear. The courage you have is not to be trusted always. But don’t wrong yourselves into being courageous at times when you feal the need to push onwards. Okay, dear ones? There’s nothing to fear, even courage, dear ones. Okay?

So do continue with your questions this evening.

CARYN: Well, George has been bullying me into asking (Humorously) my questions.

ROSE: Not bullying, we think, but allowing your courageous questions, indeed.

GEORGE: (Laughs) Gentle bullying.

CARYN: I was just talking to Joanne and Paul about how sometimes I feal like your energy is overwhelming me. But besides that, I guess I feel like when someone in the group asks a question, I usually know an answer, I feal an answer. And then it’s usually extremely similar to the answer you give. So I’m wondering if I’m just picking up on your energy, or if that’s me?

ROSE: You’re doing a wonderful job of picking up on the Rose energy this evening, as well as many other evenings, too. You do have some sense that the Rose energy is in you always, too. This is very important. To take on the Rose energy is a very big one, indeed.

So do continue to realize that you’re wanting to channel in your own way. So do so. We are allowing that, too. You need to have our permission, so do continue to allow that to occur. We do allow that, in every way, in all individuals, too. So we’re joking about the allowing you to do that. To say that another way: keep going, dear one! You’re getting it very well, indeed. So do so. We’ll allow your questions about that to continue if you’d like.

CARYN: Well, another question that I had, that I think I know the answer, to…

ROSE: You do!

CARYN: …is that you often say, (Laughs) that we are you, and you are us, and I just have this impression that, besides the fact that we all are each other, I thought that maybe you were being a little more specific or realistic.

ROSE: You’re wondering about how we can be all things, but also each individual sometimes, too. Right? You’re weaning yourself of fealing that Rose is only your weany girl.

You’re weaning yourselves – all of you – in realizing how very needing the world is of more Rose. So you’re wanting Rose to permeate the world in more ways than you can realize now. But Rose is the world, also. Rose is also the things you love, in many ways. So there’s no real distinction in some ways, but in other ways, there is. We’ll explain.

To say that Rose is all things is “true but partial,” also. The things are always Rose, but some things are more Rose than others. Rose is the allowance of love into your days. This is somehow translated as Rose, although you don’t need to always. Rose represents this to you.

Now, when you’re feeling blue, you do what? You can call on us. We are your Rose-selves who love you in this respect. When you’re fealing gay, what do you do? You call on us to remember how you fealt at that moment. These are all, ontologically speaking, Rose, but Rose is more than that, also. So we’re telling you the things you need to hear now, but in time, you’ll understand more about Rose than you can interpret at this time.

Rose is very wide – truly wide – and she does chreate your reality in many ways, but not in all ways. We’ll say that somehow you’ll get that in the way of spirit when you get there. So we’ll leave you with that very quasi-answer for now. Okay, dear ones? Rose is wide in your terms, but also narrow in ways that you’ll discover to be very providing of fealing-tone as well. You’re correct to answer that with another question, (Jo chuckles) so we’ll say that you’d be correct in assuming the way of spirit will inform you more about that in your future. Okay? So do so.

We’ll say that you’re wanting the intentionality name to occur also, dear one. Okay? So do so. Then allow that to be in your best interest, in your allowance of channeling, too.

So do continue with your lovely questions this evening, dear ones. Indeed, you’ll have more when you fear less about talking to Rose at times.

GEORGE: How about Australia?

PAUL: Nardine, Mary?

GEORGE: Surf’s up! (Paul chuckles)

MARY: Go ahead, Nardine.

NARDINE: I would like to clarify my understanding of... yes, Rose is in all of us. We are all Rose. We are all one, energetically connected. However, in channeling, we each have a desire of sorts to channel our essence, which is colored and enhanced by Rose. I’m wanting to clarify, in the expression of channeling, that doesn’t necessarily mean – and as you’ve covered, Paul, in some of your writings, the many forms of channeling – that doesn’t necessarily mean we will be doing as Joanne does, or Mary, or Serge, or the like.

Channeling for myself, for example – being the Heart Whisperer – I feal as though when I sometimes write, sometimes when I speak, sometimes when I think, I’m channeling my perception of essence, source, love, and wisdom. Am I devaluing that gift of that natural expression of myself by thinking that is not enough?

Is there something more that I will evolve into that this is simply a stepping-stone towards? Or can I simply know that the breathing, living, loving expression of my every moment, bringing fearlessness and care-lessness from a loving space into each moment – is that my gift in this now to All-That-Is? Or am I meant to be pursuing something more expressive than the me I am now?

ROSE: You’ll do well to consider how very invoking of Rose you were to the weany girl yesterday. Do you understand what we’re saying, dear one?[19]

NARDINE: Indeed, fully.

ROSE: You did allow her to take on the evening with more heart in her. You did that well, didn’t you?

NARDINE: A gift to both of us.

ROSE: You did that so exceptionally well, that you had to hear her heart to know how very gifted you were in that expression, dear one. You had her sense of fine-tuning herself in that moment, then you did what? You feared only that you wouldn’t have the heart to send it at that time, but you did, didn’t you?

NARDINE: Yes.

ROSE: As well as feared only that she wouldn’t get that, didn’t you? But she did get that in every way that it was intended, also.[20]

So don’t ever fear that you’re not considerate in your ways of fealing better about your deeds. You’re doing a very wonderful job, all of you. You only need to consider that channeling is what you do every day, when you don’t fear the outcomes of your expressions. You only need to allow channeling to help you in every way.

Whatever the expression is, you can consider that channeling – as long as the essence self is in charge, in a sense – without the fear. The fear is what grounds you, in some ways, in your humanity. Fear helps you be in the world at times. So when you don’t want to be in only the world, you can express the things you want to, then allow yourselves to be fearlessly doing so without regard for the aftermath, in some respects.

For when you’re aligning with your best selves, you don’t need to fear the expressions. You only will want to express, then get the hell out of your way, as well as others’ ways. For when you allow essence to speak through you, you’ll do better, in every way, than you will if you fear only the things you want to do or say, but won’t.

So don’t wrong on yourselves fealing that you’re not doing the channeling bit, you are. So do continue to express to yourselves that it will, in many ways, only get deeper, more deeply into your future selves, then you can rest assured that you’ll be in charge of the whole affair. We’ll be there to sell tickets for you (Group chuckles) at that time, indeed!

So do continue to ask your Rose questions, and we’ll allow your beautiful expressions to thrive this evening, dear ones. Don’t fear anything about these. Okay? Starting now.

NARDINE: Trust and allow, look out world!

ROSE: Exactly, dear ones! Do – contrary to your beliefs – express that you’re only doing your spiritual work in the world when you scream, and yell, and express anything you want to, indeed. So do so. We’ll assist you, of course.

NARDINE: Thank you.

ROSE: So do continue with your beautiful, illustrious questions.

PAUL: I just want to add a comment to Nardine’s question about her form of channeling, and it’s what John Klimo calls “open channeling” – what John does when he speaks.[21] Elias makes a distinction between an energy exchange and not an energy exchange. So with Rose or Elias, Mary and Jo are engaging an exchange with another so-called aspect or essence.

But in Nardine’s case and in my case, we feel a heightened sense of creativity, and we step aside a little bit. And when we allow this thing, it is an energetic exchange, I believe, with our own essence. Maybe there’s some other observers nudging along, too, in all of that. It’s probably more sophisticated than I’m making it. I just wanted to acknowledge that open channeling is yet another form of channeling – not just conscious channeling or trance channeling – as an energy exchange in one area. There’s all kinds of creative exchanges here.

And so, Nardine, that was just a beautiful example of what you do so well, and do not devalue it. And there is more, and the more that you step aside, and the more you trust and allow, and go with that creative state – it’s the state of chreation itself! It’s a reflection of the chreator in all of us. I just wanted to add that, too, I found it very beautiful, you heart whisperer. (Chuckling)

NARDINE: Thank you, beautifully said.

GEORGE: I have a question. This involves you, actually. (Directed to Rose) You just mentioned earlier what a wide essence Rose is. My question is: are there a lot of essences as wide as Rose? Are there a lot of essences as wide as – I don’t want to say other Roses, but as wide as you are? Or are you just one of the few that are out there?

ROSE: You can say that there are many aspects to Rose that are wide, indeed, but not as wide as Rose is. But these wide essences are really wide, also. So Rose is very wide, also, becoming them too, sometimes. So they are your essences, in many ways, but Rose is more than that, even. Rose is all those, indeed.

There are essences that are wider than Rose, but they are not in your Rose’s awareness. They become your Rose, in some ways, when needed. We reach into other proclivities of essence in ways that are useful to us, but not to say that there sometimes aren’t other selves in your Rose. That would be incorrect, there are. The Rose-self is always changing, in many respects, but not to say that there is not an aspect to Rose that doesn’t remain consistent, it does.

So Rose is very wide. She incorporates many essences. She sometimes calls upon wider essences to help her. So she’s like you are, in many respects, except that you’re not exactly as wide as your essence, that’s all. Otherwise, that’s exactly the same as the sometimes-providing-of-essence selves that you’re already becoming, in a sense.

You’re becoming essence in some ways, also. This is not to say that you’re not essence, you are. We make the distinction between essence-like, as well as essence to realize how very tricky the subject is. You’re always essence, but you’re sometimes more essence-like than other times. Okay? So Rose is like you, only wider in many respects.

You’re not cast in concrete either, are you? You’re always changing, you’re always taking on more things than you even realize at times.

So don’t worry that Rose is wider than you are, you’re also very wide. You just don’t always understand that because you want to understand life on its human terms today. So don’t wrong yourselves into thinking you’re only small – you’re not – you’re Rose also, in every way.

There’s no substitute for narrowness. Sometimes narrowness allows your selves to invoke more understanding of certain things than being wide does allow. So you can say that wide is good, but not everything, indeed, dear ones.

Do you wish to ask another question, dear George?

PAUL: I have a follow-up to that if you have another question.

GEORGE: I was going to ask a different question.

PAUL: Okay, a follow-up to that. I was surprised on Saturday night when you addressed the Seth group that no one asked the question, but perhaps they didn’t have a context or framework for it. Would you liken your awareness – your native state of attention – to what in the Seth Material is referred to as Seth II or Seth III? For example, Seth – the Seth we know – claimed to have lifetimes, and was an earthbound oversoul or entity, and spoke of his lifetimes and so on. Elias does the same thing. Kris does a similar thing.

But Rose states repeatedly that she has no focuses, and yet, through these connections, can experience focuses as well. So it would seem that this is a further removed native focus of attention. Therefore, is it similar to Seth II or Seth III?

ROSE: You’re correct that Rose does not have other focuses besides the ones that she speaks through. In some respects, this is a Rose focus, but we do not count these because the exchange is that, an exchange of energy that is special, in many ways. (Jo chuckles) Saint Teresa was another one who channeled Rose. That is the only one we’ll suggest to you this evening. But there have been….

PAUL: This is Teresa of Ávila?[22]

ROSE: Yes. So you’re wanting to express to your Seth individuals that, indeed, this is similar to Seth II, yes. This is also similar to Seth III, in many respects. There are no distinctions in realizing the Rose energy, as Seth had in his view. But sometimes you need to allow these distinctions to help your Seth readers understand that there is not any reason to fear that Seth is not allowing himself to thrive in “just” Seth.

For example, there’s no reason to feal that the Seth readers need to know more than they want to ask about Rose. So don’t wrong yourself into believing that there was reason to say that to your group, there wasn’t. They are not really ready for that yet. They will be in time, but for now, they were only blown away by the fact that your weany girl got up and did what she did. They don’t realize very many channelers in their lives, they have their books. So they are very content that Seth has to say things to them. That’s beautiful, indeed, to them.

But they are not familiar with any channelers in every way you are, in some respects. To say that another way, they don’t really get us yet, that’s all. So don’t wrong yourself into believing that you needed to express more than you did to them. They only needed to get what they got. Indeed, they do chreate their reality, don’t they, dear ones?

PAUL: Oh absolutely, and the last words I said to Joanne going to bed that night, is we both gave it one hundred percent and that’s all you can do at the end of the day. And as long as I feel I do that in any performance situation, regardless of the outcome, I have to be satisfied with it. So I felt that we both did everything we could, and it was great.

GEORGE: Our question is: is there going to be a Saint Joanne of Castaic? (Chuckling with others)

ROSE: Hell no!

MARY: I just want to know if Rose only came through Catholics? (Group laughter) They’re so easy!

ROSE: They are well trained, indeed, to take on more than they need to. (Mary laughs)

JOYCE: I have a question on channeling. I know I channel my own way and I accept it. If I accept it, it grows. If I waste my time and energy, and I’ve done that questioning it, it goes nowhere. But I have a question based on George’s question, and Paul’s discussion, and the answers of Rose.

Abraham is one such channel in our world. I don’t know the ones in Asia, I don’t know the ones in Europe, I don’t know the ones in the South Pacific, but it looks to me like mediumship is all over the world, and there are good ones and not so good ones.

But I’m wondering, if we’re here under the auspices of a very wide group called Rose, are there not some like families of selves who come under Abraham or Barbara Marciniak with her Pleiadians? Is there a reason that some of us are drawn, not just location and geography, to a certain channel? And we either will get it, or we won’t get it. So I’m wondering about that.

ROSE: You do think you know the answer, don’t you, dear one?

JOYCE: Yeah, I do, but that doesn’t mean I do, (Laughs with group) just because I think so.

NARDINE: Tell us! (More group laughter)

ROSE: You do know the answer, and that is: intentionality has everything to do with what you’re deeply drawn to. So when you realize how very intentional you need to be in your world, that is in every way helpful to you in associating the things you need to.

For example, the Sumari selves who flock to Seth do so because they’re wanting to allow [their] Sumari “selves” to thrive. We do mean Seth is [comprised of] “selves,” in a sense. So do take on the Sumari selves in order to allow them to thrive when you need to connect with Seth.

The Elias information is all about Sumafi. The Sumafi selves need that. So you can trust that this is why you’re not continuing to be drawn to Pleiades people, in a sense. There’s no reason for you to do that. In some ways, there is some confusion at times when individuals feal that they need some things that they don’t need to have, really.

There will be many individuals who will channel in the coming days. That’s another reason why the intentionality information is so very important. They need to know sometimes why they’re drawn to certain things more than others. So don’t wrong on yourselves if you’re not drawn to anything in particular, even.

There’s no reason Rolly can’t express to himself that he found Rose to be wonderful. But the Sethies in the group [wanted] to run away, but that’s not to say they won’t be back someday. They just didn’t connect right away. That’s totally understandable, given also that they were in “Sumari space” for two days, (to Paul) as you said, dear one.[23] So they did connect in ways that they wanted to in Sumari ways without really opening to other ways besides that one.

So you’re correct that there’s a view to a field involved also – a view to a field of intentionality that they did want to allow themselves. They just didn’t turn around to see another view of another field. That’s all. They will in time, but they need to open a bit to other expressions, including their own. Because sometimes they do put Seth on a pedestal that is truly not accomplishable in their ways of spirit. They need to open to other channeled sources, in some ways, ones that fall around a bit at times, too, to help them to move into areas that would bring them fulfillment, but that they’re afraid to enter into. That’s all, dear ones.

Do you wish to ask more questions?

PAUL: Can I just follow up with that? I played a little experiment – coming off of Joyce’s point and Rose’s answer on intentionality – during conversations during the conference, and getting impressions on people I was talking to. I’ve always felt a counterpart relationship to Mary Dillman, who moved to New Haven, Connecticut to be near the Sterling Library where Jane Roberts archive is.

She’s a preeminent researcher of the Jane Roberts Archive. She always comes and gives a report and update, and it’s wonderful to hear Mary’s stories. And I realized as I was talking to Mary that she is Sumari belonging-to and Sumafi aligned, and confirmed that with Joanne afterwards, and possibly through Rose. Also, John Klimo, who talked, Sumari belonging-to, Sumafi aligned. Barbara Baldock, who we were talking to in the lobby, Sumari belonging-to, Sumafi aligned. And myself, according to Elias, Sumari belonging-to, Sumafi aligned.

So there was just this pattern of Sumari belonging-to, which is at the essence layer, and yet the focus expression is that Sumafi thing, and the four people I just mentioned really have the sort of technical approach to the material, and more of this “less distortion” in promoting the material through time.

And then when I got home, two of the members of the conference committee – Jim Gilbert, who’s an engineer, and Jim Funk – in fact, the two men, and there’s five wonderful women on that committee, and creative Sumari most likely, or variations no doubt – and I had the same impression. Oh my god, they’re Sumari belonging-to and Sumafi aligned with the work and the way they present it. And I wrote a little note to Joanne yesterday, question for Rose: please confirm, let me know? And she came back with a variation, which I’ll put in an endnote rather than go on about it.[24]

These are six people who are Sumari belonging-to and Sumafi aligned who were at this conference, and come together, and come in and out. And so, just to answer your question about all the different channels and geography, the nine families and all the different intents play a role in the channels that come through. The Pleiadians, Bashar and the aliens – I think that’s more of an Ilda expression.

Elias has given information on the different “flavors.” There’s a nice typology that Elias has given on the different energy exchanges of the nine families.[25] And with Borledim, the only thing he mentioned at that time was imaginary friends. And it was kind of like, with Jo being a conscious channel, and being Borledim aligned, it’s like she’s got an imaginary friend who’s personified, and kinesthetically through her fingers, and voice, and mind, and emotions, (Humorously) and it freaks me out! No, I’m kidding. (Laughing with all) I love it! Actually, I love it.

ROSE: That’s your imaginary friend, too, dear one.

PAUL: (Laughing) That’s right!

MARY: I think it’s part of the shift, though, that Rose comes through in a feminine way, through a woman.

JOYCE: Yes.

PAUL: Absolutely.

MARY: I think it’s part of the shift to a more feminine take on the world.

PAUL: Yes, Mary, and I pointed that out in my little preamble to the group Saturday night. I don’t think I hit that point hard enough, as to what to expect. It’s a softer energy than Seth.

Seth has this macho, bravado, kind of Captain Kirk-Yul Brynner, from this little teeny Jane, you know, who’s one hundred pounds soaking wet, (Accenting and raising his voice in Sethian style) talking really loud about the power of vitality and creativity. (Group chuckles)

You know, it gets you all jacked up and it’s marvelous, and here we have Rose, who’s more feminine, and Jo is a girlie-girl, coming softly, she doesn’t yell.

MARY: I talked to Joanne about this after our session a few weeks ago. I mean, I think that it’s interesting that it’s conscious, that there’s actually a cooperation there, that is more – I mean I don’t mean this in a bad way, guys – but is more feminine (Group agreeing) than masculine. That it’s not a takeover, not a hostile takeover. (Laughing)

PAUL: Right. It’s not daddy coming in to save the day and give all the answers and then checking out and letting you deal with what the hell (Humorously) just happened.

MARY: Yeah, I’m going to listen to my tape. (Laughing)

PAUL: Yeah.

MARY: But I think it’s really interesting, and I think it’s just part of the mix.

PAUL: I agree. And there’s another – just while we’re on this topic – because we had Google ads on NewWorldView, there’s a woman channel in LA – we haven’t met her yet – her name’s April Crawford, and her ads come through, says “deep trance channel get a free newsletter,” whatever, and she channels Veronica. So this is the first additional female entity, so this is a trend. We have two now that we know about publically, as opposed to this sort of golden age from the sixties with Seth, Ramtha, Lazarus, on and on, Bashar, Abraham, Kris, Elias, Patel.

MARY: I had a session with Veronica.

PAUL: What’s that, Mary?

MARY: I had a session with Veronica about six or eight months ago.

PAUL: Oh yes, and how was it?

MARY: She’s very good, but she’s also very masculine. (Mary and Joyce laugh)

PAUL: Oh really?

MARY: Because April Crawford is very girlie, but Veronica is kind of dispassionate. It’s very interesting, and I was impressed, and it was great, but not the same experience. I mean not the same kind of feminine experience.

PAUL: Right, interesting.

MARY: How do you like it, Rose, that we sit around here (Humorously) picking you to pieces? (Laughing)

ROSE: We’re used to it, dear ones. We are very wide, so we need to be picked apart at times so you can render us palatable, indeed.

So you’ll discover many more channelers who want to express the feminine ways that Rose does. In time, there will be more exceptional channelers, (Humorously) besides yours truly, who wish to do so. Then you’ll want to discover, also, many who will be very wide, indeed. Some are wider than others. Ones you have now are not so wide as the ones you’ll discover in your future times.

So don’t wrong on yourselves for not all being wide channelers. You need to sometimes be narrow so your expressions can thrive in ways that they wouldn’t if they were wider. Okay?

Now to say the things you need to takes privacy at times, too. You need to develop your skills in hiding. To say that another way, some skills are private skills so as to experience the things you need to without channeling for others. Do you understand what we mean? We’re saying that you’ll be private channelers, all of you, in some ways that you’re not allowing yet. You’ll get impressions, you’ll get inspiration, you’ll see things in ways that you don’t yet. So be open to whatever has to happen to allow your satisfaction. That’s all.

So we’ll suggest to you this evening that your Sumari individuals do this quite easily. They do get things in ways that have some solace for others. They have sensitive ways of healing. They have sensitive ways of being in the world. They have many reasons to be alerted to things that help them, so sometimes Sumari have invisible ways of channeling. Sometimes they don’t get that thing as easily as you may, but they do allow that to occur in subtle ways, in a sense, more than you might if you were not Sumari.

Now we’ll also say that you’re correct in appreciating balladeer Bashar. In his Tumold way, he is sometimes healing things that need to be healed. In every way, he is an Ilda expression of Tumold. He is belonging-to Tumold, Ilda aligned-with. His expressions are Tumold-Ilda, also. This isn’t to say that some channelers won’t allow their paths to cross other intentionalities.

So your weany girl here, for example, is Borledim aligned-with and Ilda belonging-to. The Rose Sumafi self is incurred in her in ways that are beautiful. So you’re finding that sometimes they will cross paths, but not always. So your Ilda selves will ensure that the Ilda ways happen in the incorporation of words like (Humorously, Jo laughs) “incorporation.” That’s a very Ilda word.

Incorporation is a very Ilda word, because the word the Sumafis would use is “inculcation.” So your very subtle words have everything to do with how you’ll be getting the information. You’ll be able to discern more so as to allow yourselves to be more discriminating, in some ways, in regard to allowing yourselves to be drawn to whatever you need to be drawn to, indeed.

So we’ll allow your questions. But we do want to say that Sumafi/Sumari also, is a very big deal to Rose. Her Rose selves are Sumafi, as well as Sumari, in many ways that you’ll find needing explanation. But for now, we’ll say that Sumari/Sumafi have to do with the Rose information in ways you do not see yet.

The Sumafi exchange is very important to your Sumari individuals, too, sometimes, but not in the Elias sense. The Elias is too Sumafi for them, in many ways. The Rose information is somewhat accessible to them in ways that Elias does not incorporate. In every way, this is very important to have. The Sumafi teacher that Elias is, is very important to all things, even those who are not Sumafi. We’re not suggesting that’s in any way wanting to be different. That’s in every way perfectly adequate for your world, indeed, as well as needing to be expressed.

So do allow your questions, and we’ll allow your answers, dear ones.

GEORGE: Well, I’ll ask a question then. Is there a person on the line who hasn’t asked a question yet? Paul, isn’t there someone on the line who never asked a question yet?

ROSE: Your Mary has asked a question, dear one.

PAUL: Mary and Nardine have asked, so if you have a question go ahead.

ROSE: So do ask your question, dear one.

GEORGE: Actually I have one question now you just made me think – it’s dangerous to think. (Chuckles) Actually the first question I had was: if you can answer for me Diablo’s non-question?

ROSE: Excuse me?

GEORGE: Sure!

ROSE: Dear one, Rosalie (Addressing Joyce, who’s quietly leaving), you’re not Sumari/Sumafi, you’re Sumari/Borledim, dear one. Okay?

JOYCE: SumIlda?

ROSE: (With a slight Jewish accent) Everyone’s a little Ilda, dear one, indeed. (Group chuckles)

JOYCE: Thank you.

ROSE: We love you, take care.

JOYCE: Thank you. Love you, too. Thank you.

ROSE: Goodnight!

Go ahead, dear George.

GEORGE: Rose, I was wondering if you can answer Diablo’s non-question. I know he has a question on his mind, and I said, “Diablo I’m going to go and meet Rose today” – and he’s getting to be fond of you somehow (Humorously), he reads a lot of the material. So I said, “Would you like me to ask a question, if I can pop a question in there I will.” He says, “No I don’t want any questions, if you really want to ask something, let her verify for me that this is actually my last focus.”

I said, “Look, Elias already told you this, Rose is going to say the same thing. Give me a real question.” He says, “Nah I don’t have a question.” It looks like he did have a question, but he just didn’t want to ask it. If you give me an answer, it will totally blow (Chuckling) his mind. So something is on his mind, I cannot guess. I’ve been talking to him and I know he’s going through these changes the same like all of us, yet if there’s something that I can tell him from Rose that will make him ease into these changes more, I think it will be a wonderful gift to him.

ROSE: You’re wanting to assist your friend, correct, dear one?

GEORGE: Of course.

ROSE: But the friend wears the badge of courage in only allowing your questions. So he needs to allow himself to wear the badge of courage in asking the questions. So don’t allow him to weasel out of the questions.

GEORGE: Okay.

ROSE: We wean you of your need to do his bidding this time around. He has a very big part in another focus where you had to theatrically provide him the answers that he was seeking in ways that were very intentionally brutal. He was a very big taskmaster that had to do with your own interest in spiritual matters. He was a monk who had to learn to say the things in your terms he needed to, to allow himself to thrive.

He held court in your abbey in Scotland. He held court there to help him learn by making you ask the difficult questions of the Abbess. So don’t allow him to continue to do this. He needs to allow himself to ask the questions. So you can sense that we may be testing him when we say that, but you can trust that we’re accurate in your expressions of wanting to hear about this focus. So you can allow him to thrive more than he is. In every way, he does know how to ask the questions.

So we look forward to hearing them in time. Okay, dear one?

GEORGE: Okay.

ROSE: Okay. We’ll say that he was a very geanius student of Rose then, also. So the Rose self is in him, he has the sense of that. The wearing of the “Rose of spirit badge” is his way of allowing himself to thrive in ways he does not at this time. He will though. Keep doing the geanius work, dear one, so as to allow the best Rose self to ask the right questions, also. Okay? We’re talking to him now.

Okay, dear one? We’ll allow your next questions, if you’d like.

GEORGE: Well, you were just talking about families earlier, and something went through my mind that, it kind of reminded me of reading that essence and essence families have only to do with this physical dimension. Yet Rose – going back to the same thing, picking on Rose – Rose has never had any physical focuses, is not somewhat participating in the physical dimension here. Is that why you are a Sumafi?

What I am trying to say is, I understand Elias has a family alignment, and I do, and Seth and Paul, and everyone else, and Joanne. But you, who have never been in the physical realm, are you just choosing to belong to different families at different times, or this is the family you decided to belong to, although you are not physically participating within this dimension?

PAUL: And does that have something to do with the Dream Walkers?

GEORGE: Does that make sense, my question? My mind thinks it makes sense.

PAUL: Yeah, it does. And I just wanted to throw the concept of Dream Walker on there as well.

ROSE: You have the sense that really big answers exist to answer your questions, so we’ll go slowly now, for your Rose is bigger than that, even. The Rose self is not only the essences who comprise her, but also others who are not of this chreation that are, ontologically speaking, also other families of consciousness. So there are other families of consciousness that are not in your vocabulary, so to speak, that we’ll not dally with. But we do want to stress that there’s more to Rose than only your physical reality focuses, as well as essences.

Now, the Rose selves have to do with your chreations, but not in the sense that you may think of them. They are only supported by Rose, not chreated, in some ways, by Rose. This gets tricky in describing, but Rose does have a very progenitor-like ability to chreate the very essences that chreate your world, as well as yourselves. So Rose has a very big part to play in supporting the characters, so to speak, who chreate your theatrical world.

To say that another way, Rose is hands-off in some ways. She sets the stage, then allows the players to do their thing, checking in with them from time to time to get the answers. She needs to adjust things to allow more sets, to allow more costumes, to allow your beautiful characters, also. So Rose has many selves involved, but not directly, so to speak.

So Rose has interest in every intentionality there could possibly be: the costumers, the actors, the set dressers. Everyone, hopefully, has a role to play. Then sometimes they do not play those roles. Sometimes they switch roles. The roles are interchangeable. But you, intentionally, have ways of knowing what you need to know only. That is how you realize how your best self can thrive. You don’t need to be always a costumer. You can also be a set decorator, or a prop master, for example. You can try every role you want to. That’s why you have many focuses of attention.

Now, to say that Rose helps your intentionality is also part of that. She helps you realize how to thrive in your role, or move into other roles. She helps you understand how you can best support yourself. In some ways, she sets the stage for you to thrive in your role, but sometimes she whispers in your ear, or in the path that helps you get into your role better, how to do that in ways that bring you more satisfaction. So that’s your scene-stealing way to say that you’re wanting to be the best actor or prop master that you can possibly be. To help you is our goal in life, so to speak.

Your goal is to thrive in whatever role you choose to play. That’s why you need a geanius set dresser in your role, so you can set the stage for yourselves to be the one you need to be. The set dresser, the role player, as well as the actor, all work together, in your terms – together in every way, in every time, too. Now, we’re suggesting here that you’ll want to consider that you’re always in charge of the set dressing, but not always the set, in direct terms only.

You’re Rose also. You’ll do well to continue to realize how very vast you’re wanting to be. In some ways, you’re wanting to be Rose, but sometimes you want to sweep the sets. That’s why you’re chreating your reality the way you’re chreating that. You want to do all these things, indeed. You want to sweep the sets. You want to make the meals afterwards at the party.

That’s why you decided to become physical, dear ones. So don’t wrong on yourselves, ever, that you’re not fealing that you’re doing a splendid job, you are. Remember that sometimes you’re on the center of the stage, sometimes you’re only behind the scenes. But always you’re wanting your satisfaction, and whatever things that you choose. That’s how you chreate your reality. Rose is only supporting you in that, indeed.

Now, did we make that clear to you, or is that as clear as opening night in a blackout?

GEORGE: Well, as I figure it out, Rose is this huge producer with a lot of little producers around in the play or movie.

ROSE: In a sense, yes, we could be considered the producers who hire the directors – your essences – to chreate the roles.

GEORGE: And everything you talked about is all these menial jobs around the theatre, nothing about the stars. (Paul laughs) It’s like (Humorously) don’t worry, dear one, you can sweep the floor, that’s fine.

PAUL: We need janitors, cabinetmakers. We need popcorn poppers. (Humorously, chuckling with George)

GEORGE: I understand that.

ROSE: You don’t need to do that every time, dear George, that’s all we’re saying. Indeed.

PAUL: We all get to be the star.

GEORGE: Yeah.

ROSE: You’re always the stars to your Roses. Indeed, you’re all stars to us no matter how you wish to portray yourselves in this focus or others. You’re always wanting to allow yourselves to become the selves you want to be. Why not consider that the sweeper has more fun than the star, at times?

NARDINE: Mmhm, they find the money. (Chuckles with group)

PAUL: That’s right, and popcorn.

GEORGE: The wonderful thing is, all these people in your play, they already found their intent, right. But my question would be….

ROSE: Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t.

PAUL: Sometimes they don’t.

GEORGE: Is it possible for a focus to change their intent along the way?

ROSE: Yes.

GEORGE: This probably was asked before and probably was answered, but I just don’t know.

ROSE: That is exactly correct. You can choose to change your intentionality at any time, indeed, dear ones.

GEORGE: Because I feel like my intent just changed about a week ago. Is that possible, Rose?

ROSE: Your intent did not change, but it is possible, dear one.

GEORGE: Okay. I’ll sleep well tonight then. (Laughing)

PAUL: And I’ll just say for the record, in the Elias forum there’s examples of no closed systems, nothing’s absolute. It can happen, but it’s rare.

GEORGE: So it means there is a start to this intent of family.

ROSE: There is never a start.

GEORGE: I mean there’s (Humorously) probably some steam building up in the pot. (Laughs)

ROSE: You’re wanting to express the tea-maker behind the stage then, dear one, building up steam that is.

GEORGE: (Humorously) And the tea leaf picker.

PAUL: And the bagger.

ROSE: You’re all that, indeed, and much, much more.

GEORGE: (Humorously) Damn, Rose, I am wide.

ROSE: So we’ll say that you’re, indeed, getting the way of spirit for yourselves in your understanding. You’re doing a wonderful job in doing that. We’ll say that you’re wanting to continue to talk to Rose is a very geanius thing to do. We’re getting better, so are you, dear ones, indeed.

We’ll say also that your Sumari/Sumafi selves want to express that you need to allow more Sumari/Sumafi selves into your perceptions. You’ll do well to allow your beautiful writings, as well as your beautiful words to thrive in your ways of spirit, indeed. So do so.

We’ll say also, that the weany girl is correct that Mary Shea is also Sumari/Sumafi.

PAUL: That’s a workmate.

ROSE: Indeed. She just spoke to her the other day, also.

PAUL: They’re popping out of the bushes.

ROSE: So do continue to allow yourselves to express the very best selves you can be. Not more than that do you need to do. So do so. Then allow your best contrary expressions to (Raises voice) shout to the world that you’ll do better the next time, indeed, dear ones!

GEORGE: Hallelujah!

PAUL: Game on!

ROSE: Indeed. So do so. We’ll say that we’re not making a crystal ball prediction, only telling you to expect better, to expect the best selves as well as selves in the world that you possibly can, indeed. So do so. We love you. Goodnight!

GROUP: Thank you, Rose!

(Rose Departs: 7:25 PM.)

(Transcribed by Nardine Neilson, January 14, 2009.)

 

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Endnotes

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[1] Paul’s note: Rose commented on the pre-session comments in the group regarding the upcoming Presidential election in the USA.

[2] Joanne’s note: Essence controls many things in our physical reality, but to say it controls all things is not accurate. So Rose is saying that even essence has to only care about the things it can control. Therefore, it must be care-less in some ways, too, and it cares deeply about care-lessness!

[3] Joanne’s note: Rose said “can’t” but this seemed incorrect to me at the time. Later in the session, she did it again. I mentally asked about it, and she acknowledged and changed it. It was a test. She talks extensively about embracing fear as a tool in Session 190 and Session 277 and about fearing only what we can control in Session 325.

[4] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of Christ and create. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[5] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of feel and real. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[6] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of genes and genius. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[7] Joanne’s note: The Keating Five are five senators who in 1989 were accused of corruption that led to the Savings and Loan disaster. At the time of this session, parallels were being drawn between this, the financial crises that Paul discusses, and the role of Republican Presidential nominee John McCain, one of the Five. Early October 2008, just a few weeks after this session, Barack Obama’s campaign addressed McCain’s role in a short “documentary,” Keating Economics, probably in response to the McCain campaign emphasis on the Obama–Ayers controversy. (Source: Wikipedia)

[8] Joanne’s note: This is where I mentally questioned Rose, and she corrected the word “can’t.” What Rose actually said was, “Do fear only the things that you can’t control, then allow yourselves – yes, that’s incorrect – only fear the things you can control….”

[9] Joanne’s note: AMBER/BLUE values, in integral terms, are traditional values that promote healthy communities. This stage of development is referred to as BLUE in the work of Clare Graves and Don Beck (Spiral Dynamics Integral) and AMBER in the work of Ken Wilber and others in the Integral Institute.

[10] Joanne’s note: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR) was the 32nd President of the United States and “a central figure of the 20th century during a time of worldwide economic crisis and world war. Elected to four terms in office, he served from 1933 to 1945 and is the only U.S. president to have served more than two terms. During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic and banking systems.” (Source: Wikipedia)

[11] Paul’s note: This is one of Rose’s neologisms (made-up words), a combination of you and use. For more info, see The Rose Glossary.

[12] Joanne’s note: Rose seems to be drawing a parallel between the “New World” and the “New Deal,” the name FDR gave to the “programs he initiated between 1933 and 1936 with the goal of giving work to the unemployed, reform of business and financial practices, and recovery of the economy during The Great Depression.” (Source: Wikipedia)

[13] Joanne’s note: I don’t remember hearing this word before, but it’s defined in the Urban Dictionary as “kaput; done; over; a lost cause; finished.”

[14] Paul’s note: We had just attended the Colorado Seth Conference in Denver the previous weekend.

[15] Joanne’s note: For the record, Rose didn’t say this. She said, “He had polio, he had many privileges that you did not growing up.” Yet later in the transcript, she confirms what George is suggesting by saying, “You’ll always win in essence. Even when you surprise yourselves into choosing to put your feet on the gas in ways that allow you to learn about how you’ll be disabled, is even better at times than choosing a bronze string. Sometimes that’s the gold string, dear ones. Indeed.”

[16] Joanne’s note: Rose is exaggerating a bit, referring to Session 287, which took place at the Colorado Seth Conference. It was my biggest group session up until that time, and did not go as well as I had hoped. Rose’s take on it in this session was very helpful.

[17] Joanne’s note: The fact that it wasn’t a “perfect” performance had its own benefits, as the folks who gave me the most positive feedback were those developing their own channeling abilities and felt encouraged to continue.

[18] Joanne’s note: Rose is referring to an attendee’s comment, “Fear isn’t a problem for Seth readers.”

[19] Nardine’s note: The day before this session, I had read Paul’s blog, “Four Days of Peace, Love, and Rock’n’Soul” about the Colorado Seth Conference. This event was Rose’s first large group encounter for Joanne, and my whispers beckoned to acknowledge Jo’s “brave and courageous heart, for this may have been a little scary and challenging, really testing your beautiful Self.” This was a beautiful example to me of Rose’s “trust and allow, then get out of your way,” a lesson I continue to grow with.

[20] Joanne’s note: Nardine’s “heart exchanges” are remarkably comforting and healing. In this example, she reached out to me and healped me feal immediately better. Her example of how we all channel in unique and often subtle ways is perfect. Nardine’s gifts, as well as those still to be discovered and encouraged, should never be considered less than those of other channelers.

[21] Paul’s note: Jon spoke at the recent Seth Conference. He wrote the definitive tome on the current state of channeling called Channeling: Investigations on Receiving Information from Paranormal Sources (1998).

[22] Paul’s note: Saint Teresa of Ávila (1515-1582) was a prominent Spanish mystic, Carmelite nun, and writer of the Counter Reformation. She is well known for her writing on mystical states, and instances of levitation. (Source: Wikipedia)

[23] Paul’s note: I reminded Joanne after her Rose session at the Seth Conference that the group had been immersed in exploring the Seth Material for the previous two days, so there was a natural tendency to compare any channeler to Jane Roberts, who we all hold in high regard and as a “gold standard” in terms of trance channeling and creative output. That’s a tough act to follow! So I gave props to Joanne for having the courage to share her gift of Rose with others in whatever ways are helpful.

[24] Paul’s note: Rose confirmed that Jim Gilbert is Sumari/Sumafi and Jim Funk is Sumari/Sumafi-Ilda.

[25] Paul’s note: For more info, see essence families; energy exchanges (Dream Walker interaction).