“After the Crone Ceremony”

“Channel your Godhood”

“Resting-in-Rose, Meditation, Samadhi”

Session 191 (Group/Chatsworth, California)

Saturday, November 24, 2007

Participants: Joanne (Tyl), Joyce (Rosalie), Gil (Sharon), Gabby, Bruce, Elissa, Jeanette (Esohna), Denise (Andies), Debi (Oona), Gail (William), Drew (Matthew), Jim (Yarr), Kathleen, and Paul (Caroll).

(Paul’s note: This was our first large group session with Rose. It was hosted at the lovely home of Joyce and Gil Kovelman in Chatsworth, California, and attended by family and friends. It occurred after Joanne’s Crone Ceremony and a sumptuous dinner.)

(Rose arrives: 7:28 PM. Arrival time 13 seconds.)

ROSE: We will say hello to all of you this evening. This fine “Borledim castle” is a fitting – really fitting – arena for Rose indeed. We’re in our glory indeed tonight; for your Joanne is wanting very much to move into areas she would find finally realizing of her deepest desires.[1] Indeed, you are all a wonderful part of that, because you feal for her, F-E-A-L, meaning feeling real, indeed.[2]

The way you can think of the channeling phenomenon will be as a flower that you would choose to allow yourself to smell. Indeed, what better way is there to appreciate the lives you’ve given yourselves, in your terms, the physical reality that you are indeed allowing in a big way, in your terms, in your ways of spirit? You have the best teachers that you can imagine, indeed. You have your Seth. You have your Elias. You have your Kris. You have your Unru now.[3] Indeed, the Unru is a very wide dimensional entity that will become a great teacher in time.

The way you can think of your teachers would be as gods indeed, for your gods walk among you every day. The gods you want to take home with you are the ones that you find in your hearts, indeed, as Rose is, indeed, in many ways living in the heart of your friend. The way you can think of your gods would be as the heartiest of individuals that you can imagine, for your gods only want to bring you happiness. Indeed, what better way to deserve the best of life than to realize that your gods want you to be truly, deeply happy.

In this, you have all the tools you need to combine both your physical, as well as mental, as well as emotional selves in order to realize your spiritual ways, indeed. They aren’t… separate. They are wanting to be combined in ways that help you, as well as individuals that you find you will be able to assist. This is extremely important in your world. You don’t need to situate yourself with rose-colored glasses in order to make sense of your world. Indeed, the world you inhabit is you. The world you inhabit is God.

There isn’t any difference, really, except for a few things that are worth noting. You have a physical body, your gods do not. But they try to incorporate physically at times when you’re not looking. In some ways, they incorporate changes in weather. They change situations in ways you find miraculous. They change the way you find the way of finding gods, also, for you don’t find gods in your churches, sometimes you do, but gods live in everything. So you don’t need to become temple dwellers in order to allow your gods into your world.

Indeed, the gods you love indeed love you, as well as want the very best for you, to be beautifully creating the world you wish to inhabit. The world is you. The world is God. The world is loving affection for you. So there’s no distinction. The way you sometimes thought of yourselves is as separate, but you’re not. That’s what we will say in every way, every day; we are living in your Joanne. Indeed, she is the keeper of Rose in some respects, but also not, because you have the abilities she does, and you have the strong desire to do this, as she does. So do so.

We will allow you to become what she is now displaying to you, if you desire. You only need to find the way you want to allow your gods into yourselves, to find the way you’ll be wanting to realize your best selves in order to realize your ways in the world that you’ll find blissful, that you’ll find engaging, that you’ll find fun. Indeed, that’s the point: to have fun, indeed. So trust that you’ll beautifully create the ways of spirit for yourselves when you feel the need.

Indeed, the way that you will find will differ from person to person. Indeed, your healing charms, indeed, are ways of finding the channeling experience as well. You don’t need to sit in a big chair and spout wisdom in order to channel. You only need to find your way of bringing the God energy into the world. Indeed, every individual will have a different way that will be allowed into your world. We say “will be allowed” very deliberately because you want to be allowed.

There is only one way for you, in spite of the fact that you can change it, there is a way. You need to find it in order to channel your Godhood in ways that allow your spiritual development, as well as your channeling in your world. Indeed, the way is entirely yours. It’s entirely intuited by you. There’s wonderful things ahead if you choose to allow this way of spirit, and each way is unique. So trust that we’ll allow your questions in order to realize the way of spirit for yourself.

We’d like to allow you to think about the way of spirit allowed in order to assist you in forming the ideas around the ways so you can realize this great gift in yourself. The gift of bringing God into the world. Indeed, that’s wonderful for you. So why not choose to sometimes think about how you’re going to do this? Indeed, we will take any question that you’d like now.

GAIL: So, did you enjoy the ceremony?

ROSE: (Chuckling) Yes, very much. We wanted to also say that you’re wanting to give a great deal to Joanne. She has trouble accepting it. Indeed, she will learn in time to do better, but she’ll find ways to get around her emotions in a very healthy way. Her wonderful emotions are the gateway to how she processes information. The information was very overwhelming to process. The emotional chakra, the yellow, is how many of you process information. So expect these kinds of displays of emotion in yourselves, because that will be how many of you will allow the information in. So trust that the emotional impact of an evening like this one is… life changing, to be sure. And the allowance you’ve beautifully created for her is exceptional.[4] Indeed, we want to assure that you this isn’t unnoticed in spirit. The gods want you to be lovingly accommodating of each other and, indeed, this group is a good one for that, indeed.

We allow you to also wonder aloud what you’d do without a ceremony like this. We’d like to assure you this kind of ceremony is what’s very needed in your world today, because you, in some ways, put aside the rituals that you’ve been raised with, but you love your rituals, so why not allow more of them into your world? Indeed, they would be fun to do. Indeed, so we’d like to put in a good word for rituals for you to allow into your fully functional world, for function is sometimes overrated, and symbolism and flowers and food and loving friendship are wonderful as well as important things to take part in. So we would like to assure you this is a very healthy thing to do, and we’d love to participate more in evening sessions like this one.

We will allow you more questions if you’d like, William?

GAIL: Hmm, don’t think I have one at the moment.

PAUL: I have a question, Rose. Given the nature of the ceremony and the emotional energy it generates in this group, and also noting that it’s a full moon today, which is just a celestial coincidence. I don’t think we planned it to hold it on a full moon, it just happened to be the full moon. But given this confluence of synergy of different energies, this afternoon, this evening, during the part of the ceremony where we’re honoring our ancestors and each person takes a moment to acknowledge their lineage, does that have an effect with those that have crossed over? Are they drawn to that emotional connection? In other words, were some of our ancestors peeking in and peering through and participating with us this evening?

ROSE: They are. Indeed, they want to allow you to notice them. At times you did this evening. So you were calling on them to participate, they did in a very big way, because they wanted to express to you tonight that they are always with you – always, always, always. Indeed, always with you in spirit. The way you can think of them is as your partners in eternity. They are always with you. They always will be in a variety of forms, but the commonalities that you’ll see, in your terms, with them tonight is that they are as you knew them, or close to how you would have known them had you known them.

Many of your great grandparents for example, were individuals you didn’t know, but they recall themselves as they were, had you known them. In fact, you can take them with you tonight, as well as dream on them. They’ll appear in your dreams to assure you of their presence. They’ll look like you imagine them to look. They are here now. They are sitting in your chairs in a geanius[5] way, because they don’t need chairs, but they do participate. So they will, indeed, sit in your chairs. They’ll splay on your floor. They’ll allow themselves to partake in food, because their food is spirit food. But they will allow a realization of a sort of cake, for example, that they can enjoy that’s like yours. They’ll find the forks, the plates, as yours, but not yours because yours are physical. But they could see your cake, the food, the ceremony, and everything that you shared tonight, they experienced. Indeed, they’re still around now.

You can trust that there will be an individual who arises from your group who will see the spirits, as Joanne suggested there should be. You found someone who could do that in your past. The woman you met with Tom, the woman who could see the individual sitting next to you, your deceased relatives.

PAUL: I’m drawing a blank.[6]

ROSE: You only need to have the eyes to see and that is a special channeling gift that you can find someone in your group to do. Wouldn’t that be nice? To have someone to say that the grandmother from your past is sitting right next to you. Her name is Sarah. She has a look of contentment on her face, and she would like to have some cake, indeed. So get some for her, because the spirits do want to participate. You just have left them out, in many respects, but they’re ready to share in your party whenever you would like them to. Indeed, so do so. They don’t eat much. (Chuckling) You don’t need to tell your caterer you’re serving 50 instead of 20, indeed. Take that to the bank. There will be someone who does provide that service in your community. We will make a crystal ball prediction on that.

GAIL: I’m viewing a yellow aura emanating from around, you can you explain?

ROSE: The aura is a form of energetic lovingness sontering[7] you. We sonter you as well. We essences breathe you in. The energy that we’re displaying is an energy that would be considered an emotional energy displayed from your chakra of yellow. So the energetic field is supposedly the one that’s emotional, but in some ways it’s also an aura of gladness. So the auras that you allow will be a signature that you can think of as an individual kind of signature, but there are some consistent patterns involved with the energetic fields that we are used to reading.

The exact individual patterns would be hard to describe, but you’ll allow a brief foray into this area. We’ll say that the energy that your Joanne displays is emotional in many ways, but it’s also gratitude to all who are here. And the gratitude is the energetic signature that she’s displaying now, indeed. The way you can think of this is as a temporary situation. The gratitude that she’s displaying will subside in time, as you can imagine, but there will be additional energies that are included in her tone depending on her mood, on her physical situation, on any number of findings that we’ll provide in her way of spirit, because we create the energetic patterns, not your physical selves. This is an essence creation, not a focus creation. So that’s all we’ll say about that for now, but will of course provide more information at a later time in the future if you’d like.

GAIL: I’m also viewing another aspect of Joanne very strongly coming through. Who is that?

ROSE: That would be Rose.

GAIL: Okay.

ROSE: The aspect is allowed in the spiritual domain of Joanne that’s here now, so Rose is excellently allowing herself to enter into your Joanne’s energetic field. That’s not a demonic possession, indeed. That’s not a psychological split, as you know, but a form of fine Divinity, in a sense, that is allowed in when she chooses it. As the way for you comes in when you choose it as well. So, this isn’t something that’s special to her, but what you do when you’re in tune with your energetic field, as well as your Divine selves, which are loosely the same things, but not exactly. The energetic field is slightly different than your Divine selves as we describe them.

This is tricky business. You’re Divine, of course, by nature but there is also a realm that’s otherworldly, in some respects, to be fair, as well as allowing of mystery in some respects, that you don’t readily see, because that’s what you’ve chosen in your physical reality to do.

So the energetic field is Rose. We are here tonight with you. Indeed, we are in your very lives as well, for we’re emissaries, of sorts, for your own essences. We are here to remind you that we are you. Also, we are you in spirit. We are you in physical reality. We are you in everything you can imagine. We are you.

We are speaking through Joanne because she’s the teacher self that you wanted into your lives. But we are you in every way, there’s no distinction between what she does, as well as what we are, in some ways. But we also allow her to be herself without us. That’s what you do without thinking, indeed. But we suggest you need to not think so much, because you’re getting in the way of your realization of your spirit when you think too much. Indeed, so we’ll say that meditation would be a great thing to do, because it will allow you to find your spirit as well as your way of channeling. So do so. We trust you will.

JIM: What would be a good meditation practice?

ROSE: That’s an excellent question, Yarr. We will say that the only practice you need to do is to rest, indeed, in Rose. We call it this because you know us, so we’re trying to take the mystique out of meditation. Resting-in-Rose is our way of saying resting in your greater self. You can think of this as a fine flower that smells as well as feels magnificent. And you can rest in it and feel completely safe, because there’s no need to fear anything. Indeed, resting-in-Rose reminds you of this, and allows you to check out and feel great. Feeling great and not thinking are the rules of good meditation.

You don’t need to sit cross-legged on a mountaintop to meditate, you only need to feel good and rest without thinking. When you think the thoughts you do, just let them pass through your mind without giving them any heed at all. Just rest-in-Rose. Indeed, you can do it laying down, sitting on your floor, sitting in lotus position, however you feel comfortable. There’s no need for rigor! The way some people make meditation out to be is as such a difficult thing that it so intrudes on how meditation was originally intended by your spiritual selves. So trust that we’ll do well to allow yourselves to meditate when you can. Indeed, we try to make Joanne do it every day. Indeed we do.

JIM: So would that follow through, again, in communicating with animals and communicating with other individuals as well?

ROSE: Indeed! Meditation helps you in every way because it reminds you that you’re Spirit, and you carry this with you when you treat your animals, when you talk to your friends, when you work and play. Meditation is so very important that we’ll say you can’t follow your way of spirit without it.

JIM: So it’s something that you actually would sit down and practice, like something you would carry through your entire day?

ROSE You don’t need to do it your entire day, but you’ll carry the benefits throughout your entire day. The meditation practice only needs to happen for a few minutes, at least. Try to do it for an hour or two every day. But this doesn’t mean that you don’t need to do anything. Your meditation can include the vespers that we’ll talk about. For example, your Joanne practices her autotyping every morning, just about every morning, for an hour or two. This is a meditation also. But in addition to this, we also suggest that her meditation practice without the autotyping has been what has pushed her into this new self. Trust that this is the best advice we could give you, because it’s what you can do to connect with your essence, as well as find rest and calm in your days. You need this in a very big way. All of you need it because you’re frantic. (Group chuckle)

You have a great many things on your minds that aren’t befitting you. You need to lighten up (Jim laughs) as well as find peace in your minds, so the meditation seems like a no brainer. You would think this and it is: it’s a no brainer. You need to turn off your brains in order to hear what essence is telling you, because that’s the way that you’ll find yourself to be most happy.

Indeed, the Rose selves have so impacted your Joanne that she doesn’t know how to describe the effects that Rose has had on her life. Indeed, this wasn’t a planned thing, this was what happened when she learned things that she needed to, when she meditated, when she allowed. That will be another lesson at another time – to allow – because allowance is the best thing you can do for yourselves as well.

Just allow the peace, the energy, the love, to come through everything you do. The gifts will follow. Indeed, because you’ll find that your peace is what you seek, not the thoughts. Indeed, the seeking mind will seek and seek and seek, and never find! That’s what the seeking mind does, that’s indeed the only thing. So trust that the seeking mind needs to shut the hell up! (Group laughter) Indeed, so you can trust that.

We’ll allow you more questions if you’d like.

JIM: Thank you

ROSE: You are welcome.

GAIL: Rose… when I’m gardening, isn’t that my form of meditation, where there is no thought whatsoever and I’m so involved in the creativity of what I’m doing?

ROSE: Yes, gardening is a beautiful meditation, indeed, as well as arts. The things you love are also meditations. We will say that the turning off of things is what we’d like you to do daily, if you can.

But that’s an excellent point that your wondering self – wonderment is the way we mean that word – your wondering self is the key also to allowing your best self to take hold of you in ways that you’ll find beautifully beneficial. So trust that your wondering self wants to wonder, and you do this when you do the things you love and have fun with. So trust that when you feal completely absorbed in what you’re doing, that’s when spirit is in you working, indeed.

GAIL: I’ve been paying attention to my conceptualization, and is that not also a form of meditation, when one just allows that communication to be expressed either in painting or writing?

ROSE: When you conceptualize in thinking, then not really. The way you can consider meditation is as a getting of the information without the thinking. Conceptualization sometimes includes thinking, but we’re suggesting the concepts that come to you in meditation are what we mean by conceptual meditation.

GAIL: So if I’m thinking, okay, I want to conceptualize what trust is, and then I move to paint. And when I am doing the painting itself, that is that free flow expression, very similar to when I’m gardening.

ROSE: Exactly.

GAIL: Okay.

ROSE: Yes, but when you conceptualize in thinking, that’s not what we’re talking about. Yes.

PAUL: Can I just add that there seems to be, if we add our types and talk of some of our integral ideas, we know that there are nine types of intention and we call them essence families.[8] So… would there not be nine types of meditation – Sumafi meditation, Sumari, Gramada? And let’s throw in the three orientations as well, because they are such a foundational type of perception. So when we apply those to meditation practice, to know what our intention is, to know what our orientation is, would help us tailor our own personal meditation practices and techniques to take it to the next level so to speak. Is that an accurate sort of overview?

ROSE: Yes. The way you can think of your meditations is as a very strong “You”, and your “You” is indeed unique, as you’ve expressed. The “You” is finding of the way of meditation in ways that would be described as unique in every way, because the uniqueness extends into the God-Self realm. So the uniqueness is Rose, in Joanne’s terms, but in Elias’ terms, the Rose is different but similar. Inherently, the Rose energy is the same, but in Elias’ world, the energy when expressed through Mary and Elias becomes something else. So Rose is excellently portrayed in two different ways when she comes through, but it’s essentially the same energy.

So your meditations are similar because they allow the expression of finding of Self in ways that are unique, exactly. There will be differing kinds of meditation as there are wonderful individuals. The meditation is essentially the same – the tuning out of your thoughts as well as expectations. But the channeling is different in every way in every individual. So the meditation will be also, because the expressions will be communicated to you in different ways. The expressions will come through in your meditations, because you’re taking the thoughts out of the equation, and allowing your gods to speak to you.

PAUL: Mmhm. So something I found useful and wanted to share it with the group for what it’s worth. I found pointing out instructions to be very helpful to me for sitting meditation or laying meditation. That is simply to have a sort of mental process to alert myself to my mental processes, and that goes something to the effect of, “I have thoughts but I am not my thoughts. I have feelings but I am not my feelings. I have dreams but I am not my dreams. I have impressions but I am not my impressions. I have impulses but I am not my impulses.” You negate everything that possibly comes up as an avenue of communication. It pushes awareness back deeper inward to that stillness that is Source that we all come from, and I am no expert at it. I know that it’s helped me at times get into some very deep and very fun, comfortable, relaxing states. Would you consider that resting-in-Rose, my version of resting-in-Rose?

ROSE: You would consider this Samadhi type of meditation to be resting-in-Rose. But in some respects, the others wouldn’t be because they express a sort of finding in ways that we’ll suggest are authoritative, in some respects, and unnecessary. So the chair isn’t really necessary, but the sitting is. So as long as you don’t make the things too rigid, it would be considered the same, indeed, in many respects.

GAIL: Rose, was that Sumafi?

ROSE: Samadhi

PAUL: Samadhi, it’s a Sanskrit word for concentration.[9]

GAIL: Okay.

ROSE: S-A-M-A-D-H-I.

KATHLEEN: I have a question.

DEBI: (Speaks at the same time.)

KATHLEEN: No, go ahead.

DEBI: I was just curious because in different types of meditation, and the different families and so on, and me being Vold, I can hear. This is something that has come on very recently and I’m starting to hear things, and I think pretty much the general thing is, I’m not afraid to hear myself, I’m afraid that I’m a lunatic if I hear myself, if I hear, audibly hear, but I’m looking past that, just because I see other-dimensional creatures in my living room. Okay, you guys know that.

ROSE: Good for you!

DEBI: But you know, then I go “bam” and they disappear, and I don’t freak out thinking about it all the time. So my question is: I’ve recently discovered through another channeled essence, of course, I’m speaking of Elias, that I just finished a layer of myself. And now tonight sitting here I’m feeling like, I been wondering what’s the next layer I’m going into? (Gail laughs)

Now I need to know (Gail laughs again), in fact you know where I’m going with this. I feel as if everything comes very narrow to a point where I think, “Okay I’m here for a reason and I think I’m ready to make that leap into actually becoming a full-on Hearer.”[10] What does that mean? I don’t know yet. Does that mean it’s just me, you know, like you see a lot of people talking on their Bluetooth, or a lot of people talking to what appears to be nobody at the store? There are people there and you know they’re talking to somebody. But I guess I’m just trying to get a little bit of clarification from your angle: is this my next layer that I’m heading toward? I’m talking about peeling the layers of an onion, and the core being myself, and hopefully self-loving, and all that. I’m wondering is that what I’m doing right now?

ROSE Yes.

DEBI: That’s the next layer?

JIM: I felt that too.

DEBI: Did you?

JIM: (Inaudible)

ROSE: The way you can think of this is as a very wide Self who is trying to siphon itSelf into you. The Self wants to come in, but you’re afraid to let it, to let the Self in. But the Self is you, and you’re finding that the identification of yourself is shifting into this bigger Self.

DEBI: Yeah.

ROSE: (Humorously) The way you can help yourself shift is to get a Bluetooth and you don’t even need to turn it on (Paul’s laughs). You just wear it around, and talk, talk, talk…

PAUL: I love it!

ROSE: … as much as you’d like to your Spirit world. Indeed, they’ll talk back because this is exactly the demonstration Spirit is giving you in your physical reality. There are people walking around talking to themselves every day. They have a bit of shiny plastic on their heads to help individuals not think they’re crazy. You can think of yourself as, as sane as they are, but you won’t need the Bluetooth. You can do it without your Bluetooth. What a clever individual you are, indeed!

To want to take on your way of channeling is a very big thing, Oona, because the way you’ve created this is a Vold-oriented type of channeling. It’s not a very popular kind. You can trust that you’ll find ways to manage it, though. We suggest you try to enable this as much as you can. And try to find the opportunities to connect with your community in order to help you, because your community is going through exactly the same things you are in trying to identify with their greater Selves, like Yarr here mentioned. So find the way of spirit as well as the way of community to assist you. They will, we’re there, indeed, for you as well.

We will offer a bit of advice to all of you in this. We will assist you. You are your own teachers, but we will be your teachers as well, if you’d like. So stay tuned, we will be having more sessions in public in time. As we’ll suggest Joanne is becoming extremely comfortable in this situation as we speak. She’s even opening her eyes, and looking at you. So trust that you’ll find ways to connect more with Rose to assist you in connecting with your Rose self. We mean this in a very generic way, because you have your own essence who is as great as we are. We will say also that Oona is a friend of ours. So trust that we’ll all be assisting you all in finding your ways of spirit, indeed, in time. We look forward to that.

DEBI: Thank you.

KATHLEEN: Hey.

ROSE: Hi.

KATHLEEN: It’s so nice to finally meet you.

ROSE: Well, we go way back. (Kathleen laughs) Indeed, indeed we’ll tell you more about that as the years go by.

KATHLEEN: May I ask you a question?

ROSE Yes.

KATHLEEN: I was very interested in what Paul was saying about the different types of meditation given what your alignment is, I believe?

PAUL: Mmhm.

KATHLEEN: I still have challenges understanding the alignment and the essence families. Would you mind taking just a few moments and perhaps tell me… is there a sort of abbreviated version of what my son’s…?

ROSE: Of course! (Humorously) We’re not as wordy as your Elias is. Indeed, we are of the same stock but we won’t go on and on as much as he does. (Laughter) We’re joking.

ROSE: We are…

PAUL: She’s joking.

ROSE: …going to be making fun of Elias a lot, so we are doing it in sheer complicity and friendship. So trust that we’re only teasing the old guy when we do.

The Tumold family is what you, as well as your son, are belonging to. The “belonging to” families of consciousness are those that you have belonged to forever, in some respects. Your essences would find a home there, as well as a theme to play out in every focus that you have.

KATHLEEN: Okay.

ROSE: The alignments are what you are in focus-land, so to speak, your focuses of attention now. You are Ilda in your alignment. You have a way of finding ways to involve yourself in exchanging in your world. Your impressions about reaching out and sharing your information to many individuals is a very Ilda kind of action. Your [son] James is also Tumold belonging to, like you. In your Rose’s terms, now, he did get another reading from Elias we believe, but there will be differences because we’re different essences. So James is Tumold belonging to, and Sumari aligned – the artists. So he will be finding a great wealth of artistry in his life. But the Sumari also have the challenge of not sticking to things for long, so they need to find things that they can finish sometimes. This isn’t a terrible thing. Every alignment has these kinds of challenges. They want to get to the party, but don’t know where sometimes.

So you are, for example, challenged by your allowance of fear in getting the stories out. In some respects, the Ildas will cringe at the involvement that’s needed to exchange ideas in the world. This isn’t always an easy thing to do. There are restrictions. There are barriers. There are personalities, so you’ll find this to be your challenge in your Ilda ways. But we also suggest this is where the fun is, because you rise to your occasions to get the truth of yourselves out. Truth in the sense of the truth of yourself, truth with a capital “T” is not what we’re talking about – we are saying the truth of your greatest expressions.

So trust that your Ilda ways will be finding a common ground with your James because he will need the ways of Ilda to proceed in his ways. Sumari and Ilda are very similar in that they are both very experimental in the world in similar ways of expression, for he’ll find your Ilda ways to be helpful in his way of artistry. That’s what we’ll say for now, but we’ll give you more information at a later time if you’d like.

KATHLEEN: Thank you.

ROSE: You’re welcome.

Any other questions? Would anyone like to volunteer their needs regarding their ways of spirit, ideas that they have in mind, things they’d like to learn, things they’d like to resolve perhaps? Really challenging questions, I know, but there’s also many things that you’ll find in yourselves besides your Rose. So we’ll suggest that you look into your hearts to discover the things you need to be happy, as your essences will want to suggest things that you’ll find fun and interesting to do. So do so.

Any other questions?

DREW: Why are you speaking for all who speak of Self?

ROSE: Rose is an entity like Elias or Seth that is constituted by many essences. Millions of essences make up Rose. We will also say that Elias is a Rose, as well. We’re him. We’re Seth. That’s heresy we know, but this (Jo laughs) will become clearer as the years go by.

We’ll prove your Rose to be a wonderful set of essences, indeed, as your Elias has been to you. We’ll also say that Elias will approve of Rose, because we’re in cahoots with him. You’ll find some disparities between us, but these are, contrary to your expectations, not anomalies but ways to teach you in ways that you’ll need to go forward with. The fine things that Elias has taught you will be used in your Rose teachings. So, if you’re an Elias student we’ll have many things in common with what you’ve learned so far.

Indeed, Seth as well, because Seth did provide a foundation to Elias in many ways as well. Rose is a third “dead guy” you could say. “Gal” would be preferred, as we’re a feminine type of realization of yourselves. The essences are neither masculine nor feminine, but we’re decidedly feminine in your approaches because we want to invigorate the Divine feminine traditions in your world. Indeed, they need it. So we’ll be decidedly feminine.

This means that we’ll focus on your many expressions in your world, staying more away from theory. The theory will be an important forgetfulness. We’ll create theory, but then we’ll ask you to forget it, in lieu of finding reality to be allowing your best selves. Your reality is real. Your theories aren’t so much, but they’re also important.

The feminine ways are in the world. They’re looking after your children. They’re looking after your animals. They’re looking after your health. That’s what we’ll focus on, your feminine aspects of yourself, for indeed, these have been in many ways set to music that’s sad, as well as finding of loneliness. The feminine ways need to get back into your psyches. We will assist in every way to do so, including this evening.

This evening has been a joy to allow into your essence world (Jo laughs). Indeed, we’re allowing your expressions because we love your expressions. We love your laughter. We love your joy, your stories; even your sorrows indeed, are your way of expressing your deepest selves. So trust that you’ll do well to allow yourselves the fun, the energetic expressions you want to take on, as well as the very things that you’ve discovered this evening: friendship, remorselessness, trust, the very things that you are are what we are, and your Rose will assist you in every way to be the beautiful individuals that you were born to be, indeed, are already, only you just don’t know it.

We will allow you more questions if you’d wish. (Pause) Or we will say adieu for now. We will be here whenever you call on us. You only need to do so. We love you. Rose.

GROUP: Thank you Rose.

(Rose Departs: 8:37 PM.)

(Transcribed by Nardine Neilson, April 17, 2008.)